Well it's obviously not $600 extra for the hardware, but with professional cards you have to provide additional warranty and support where a more complex card with CLC is going to have more problems.
Well it's obviously not $600 extra for the hardware, but with professional cards you have to provide additional warranty and support where a more complex card with CLC is going to have more problems.Anyone else think that $600 just for an AIO cooler doesn't make sense?
Anyone else think that $600 just for an AIO cooler doesn't make sense?
They have to guarantee the cooler for consumers too. The additional cost to pro user's support is for certification and support of pro apps. That's not going to change any because of the cooling solution.Well it's obviously not $600 extra for the hardware, but with professional cards you have to provide additional warranty and support where a more complex card with CLC is going to have more problems.
Its not just the cooler.
Air Vega Frontier: 300W
AIO Vega Frontier: 375W
Binned higher clocked AIO most likely?
That seems more reasonable. Max power draw of 300W on the GPU + up to 75W for the pump/fans?I have a feeling these aren't really the stock TDP or power draw. But rather max rated board power or what the coolers are rated for.
I have a feeling these aren't really the stock TDP or power draw. But rather max rated board power or what the coolers are rated for.
That seems more reasonable. Max power draw of 300W on the GPU + up to 75W for the pump/fans?
To me, the current information and AMD Vega Frontier Edition's intended target is confusing.
Why use professional work to bench a gaming product, NVIDIA TITAN Xp? On a side note, remember NVIDIA GPU Boost, which puts GP102 at 1.7-1.9 GHz (13056-14592 GFLOPS).
If AMD Vega Frontier Edition is intended to be for professional work, then a smaller and cheaper NVIDIA Quadro P4000 (Pascal 1792 cores, similar to GeForce GTX 1070) matches.
It is though, and so is vega frontier.According to Nvidia, titanxp isn't a gaming product
They contain features that aren't for gaming so become useful in professional markets as well. It's just like with their Zen cores, they're producing chips that are capable of scaling and filling multiple markets to keep R&D and production costs down and it's working very well for them so far.It is though, and so is vega frontier.
But marketed as something beyond gaming so they can charge more for it.
They marketed the the current titan with 40 tflops of int8, but the 1080Ti does that trick too.They contain features that aren't for gaming
I vaguely recall some recent GPU(s) coming with an actual BIOS switch, but just assumed it was for extreme OC profiles. IIRC up to the HD4000-series, I could use combinations of drivers and BIOS changes to convert Radeon cards into FireGL cards (and GeForce 7000-series to Quadro), but then AMD and NVIDIA locked their chips down.I thought the Fiji Pro Duo had two BIOS and could use either Radeon or Firepro drivers depending which BIOS you selected?
I vaguely recall some recent GPU(s) coming with an actual BIOS switch, but just assumed it was for extreme OC profiles. IIRC up to the HD4000-series, I could use combinations of drivers and BIOS changes to convert Radeon cards into FireGL cards (and GeForce 7000-series to Quadro), but then AMD and NVIDIA locked their chips down.
I understand, but I just think it was for OC modes, not actually for changing between Radeon/Fire modes. To my knowledge, based upon a long history of this toggle switch being around, it's only for custom clocks/voltage settings. I don't doubt that someone crafted a Fire-like custom BIOS to use, I just can't find evidence of it.Not what I was getting at. I thought the Pro Duo was actually designed that way. One bios firepro and one bios radeon, for content and game development.
I vaguely recall some recent GPU(s) coming with an actual BIOS switch, but just assumed it was for extreme OC profiles. IIRC up to the HD4000-series, I could use combinations of drivers and BIOS changes to convert Radeon cards into FireGL cards (and GeForce 7000-series to Quadro), but then AMD and NVIDIA locked their chips down.
Did you just respond to and contradict your own post?I understand, but I just think it was for OC modes, not actually for changing between Radeon/Fire modes. To my knowledge, based upon a long history of this toggle switch being around, it's only for custom clocks/voltage settings. I don't doubt that someone crafted a Fire-like custom BIOS to use, I just can't find evidence of it.
I don't think so. The BIOS switch found on all AMD cards is for switching between stock and OC profiles, as I stated in both posts. In the first post, I was going by memory - second post I verified it.Did you just respond to and contradict your own post?
I understand they have had dual bios on a lot of cards. Most were nothing more than a read only and a writable bios for modding. I was under the impression that the Pro Duo was used for a different reason, as I stated.I understand, but I just think it was for OC modes, not actually for changing between Radeon/Fire modes. To my knowledge, based upon a long history of this toggle switch being around, it's only for custom clocks/voltage settings. I don't doubt that someone crafted a Fire-like custom BIOS to use, I just can't find evidence of it.
It would be awesome if it was, but sadly it's not.I was under the impression that the Pro Duo was used for a different reason, as I stated.
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