It OC'd 10% at launch... guess what, Pascal OC's 11% at launch and was praised for its OC power (though it throttled with its "Premium" coolers...hmmm)
It couldn't overclock at all. I mostly go for AMD GPUs, but to me that was a terrible disappointment. Notice I did not say failure, you said that.
I def agree, as an affordable workstation card it's hitting all the right numbers. Still pricy in my opinion, but I've always thought that for these weird 'workstation' cards.Sure looks like a great perf/$$ PRO GPU!
Yes but you compared Fury against Vega and say its similar.It couldn't overclock at all. I mostly go for AMD GPUs, but to me that was a terrible disappointment. Notice I did not say failure, you said that.
The reason its not doing tiled rasterization is it has not been "turned on" yet. Vega is using the fallback rendering method instead of tiled.
When it was first discovered that Maxwell used tiled based rendering there was talk about a lot of software that needed to be written or rewritten in order to utilize it correctly and Nvidia implemented that in their drivers.
Vega is using a predominantly Fiji driver and this feature has not been "turned on" actually all but one of the new features in Vega is not functional right now the exception being the pixel engine being connected to the L2 cache as that is hardwired. I tore apart the new drivers in IDA today and the code paths between Fiji and Vega are very close and only differ slightly.
This arch is a massive change from anything they have released with GCN. They built in fallbacks in the hardware because of the massive changes. Its a protection against poorly written games and helps AMD have a starting point for driver development. Hell even architecturally Vega is essentially Fiji at its most basic thats why it is performing exactly like it because none of its new features are enabled or have a driver published for them yet. It is performing like a Fury X at 1400 MHz because that is exactly how every computer is treating it.
Then bad management on AMDs part. It should not have launched. Better to take criticism for further delays then to allow such intense negativity over it and the perception that it is a bad card for the price/performance vs competition. AMD = Another Marketing Disaster.Because its basically an OC'd Fury without any of the new features working. None of the architectural changes appear to be enabled from the testing done so far.
Seems reasonable, and if so that's good news, because the increase capabilities from the driver package/features being enabled will allow this to push a lot harder, as well as gaining a lot more overclocking room/stability from lower power usage I'd wager.From reddit, not sure how reliable, but here it is:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6kdwea/vega_fe_doesnt_seem_to_be_doing_tiled/djld98t/
Perfect. Also, PCB shots:Official review is up
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-16GB-Air-Cooled-Review
OC Results:
- Peak clock adjustment: +7% (resulting 1682 MHz rated clock)
- Set fan to 3000 RPM fixed, kept GPU under 80C
- Resulting clock speed was about 60 MHz higher than stock settings
- Set power target to +20%, was drawing ~350 watts
Heh, if AMD keeps making +10% incremental changes to the 570/580 line, they can just sell thousands to miners for the next few years. Build a warchest, make something impressive from that.On the bright side, if nV remains unrelenting in their pushing ahead, we'll still have impressive products worth considering.
Hopefully AMD fights on the bang/buck front well enough to stay in the game, but they really need to bring out something real to compete on the high end, even if it's just for PR.
Heh, if AMD keeps making +10% incremental changes to the 570/580 line, they can just sell thousands to miners for the next few years. Build a warchest, make something impressive from that.
If the new features aren't working as you claim, then they will be power gated. Which means power consumption will go up if those features are enabled. Such as when a CPU runs AVX code.
We know what Vega is, stop trying to deny it.
Given the behavior I've seen from a lot of would-be miners, they'll buy anything new with an "AMD" stamp on it because $$$.Unless Ethereum starts going up again, the difficulty increase should make it unprofitable pretty soon to add more cards. Give it a month or so.
564mm2? Jesus Christ, according to Raja a few months ago Vega should be smaller than 500mm2. What the hell?
From pcperThat's confirmed? 564mm^2?
- Die size: 27.85mm x 20.25mm (GPU only, not including memory stacks)
- Area: 564mm2
- Package size: 47.3mm x 47.3mm
- Area: 2,237mm2
Btw why is the die size so big? I think Fury weighed in at 593mm2 iirc.
What the hell is taking up so much space?
It OC'd 10% at launch... guess what, Pascal OC's 11% at launch and was praised for its OC power (though it throttled with its "Premium" coolers...hmmm)
Mine isnt stable a single mhz over factory no matter how much voltage its given. Some people can get 50 mhz out of them but thats about it.
i dunno, it never throttled clocks when i did attempt overclock since the board can support so much power and the temps never get about 65You don't want to give it extra voltage, heck they can even OC better when undervolted because too much voltage causes them to throttle.