Nowhere does it say that. They said they locked it out for legal reasons with nVidia's IP. Not for support reasons. (Unless I missed it? If so feel free to correct me.)
Anyone can argue that AMD could have coded their own AA, and didn't. That's a legit point. Albeit one we have no answer to as why they didn't. Whatever the reason to chalk it up to laziness, like some are trying to do, is fantasy.
There's no such thing as "lazy" in this business. If AMD were lazy, or any hardware engineering company, they would seize to exist.You don't think AMD is lazy? When they release a driver that breaks something they fixed before in the last release? When it took months to get Rage to work right and you had to do hacks and crap to play the game? Yeah the game wasn't that great but still...
I was talking about not leaving AA open for AMD cards at all. They locked it out because it didn't work and AMD didn't want to make it work. Better to just prevent it than to try to hack it in and do it wrong.
+1 ^ exactly !There's no such thing as "lazy" in this business. If AMD were lazy, or any hardware engineering company, they would seize to exist.
Rage was a flop on nvidia cards and drivers as well man it's the game that's a mess not nvidia or AMD and my gtx 5xx is even more of a mess then my previous 2xx card in Rage with same driver 301.42 for both cards only more texture pop ins and other bugs with the 5xx series card vs the 2xx card from nvidia.You don't think AMD is lazy? When they release a driver that breaks something they fixed before in the last release? When it took months to get Rage to work right and you had to do hacks and crap to play the game? Yeah the game wasn't that great but still...
I was talking about not leaving AA open for AMD cards at all. They locked it out because it didn't work and AMD didn't want to make it work. Better to just prevent it than to try to hack it in and do it wrong.
I would say both camps are and have been dead even for a while it's just coming down to which camp comes to market first with the new toy for example the 7970 was first this time but nvidia was only a few months behind then it became equalized however the 7970 is $100 cheaper but then again nvdia has the best support for Linux so it's tit for tat back and forth.I've used both companies products for 15 years or so. I've had plenty of issues with both, and both have done pretty well in recent years. Whichever offers the best bang for buck is the way to go these days. AMD/ATI has had that edge for a couple of generations.
You don't think AMD is lazy? When they release a driver that breaks something they fixed before in the last release? When it took months to get Rage to work right and you had to do hacks and crap to play the game? Yeah the game wasn't that great but still...
I was talking about not leaving AA open for AMD cards at all. They locked it out because it didn't work and AMD didn't want to make it work. Better to just prevent it than to try to hack it in and do it wrong.
So, you think they sit there and leave stuff broken when they could fix it if they simply did something more than nothing? I think you have no idea what is required to fix these issues. What you are saying makes no sense. Like they go to work and say, "Let's just drink beer today."
They said they locked it out on the advise of their legal department. Why can't you accept that?
Erm,a good policy imo."Let's just drink beer today."
I'm in favor of the 3:00PM Friday afternoon version of that rule (Assuming M-F 9:00-5:00).
nvidia were first to market with a DX10 card and AMD then Ati was first to market with a DX11 SKU like I say tit for tat they are both the same shxx different pile and I agree get what you can afford at the time or whom ever is offering the better deal to you.I have used both and I generally go towards whichever has a better deal for price and performance. Anyone remember back during the break out 8800GTX day? ATI had nothing to compete with it. Good days.
Why? How? The 6970 obviously competed with the GTX570.
6970 was AMD's top dog and hence it had to compete with 580,though considering the price it should be 570.
There's no such thing as "lazy" in this business. If AMD were lazy, or any hardware engineering company, they would seize to exist.
Nowhere does it say that. They said they locked it out for legal reasons with nVidia's IP. Not for support reasons. (Unless I missed it? If so feel free to correct me.)
Anyone can argue that AMD could have coded their own AA, and didn't. That's a legit point. Albeit one we have no answer to as why they didn't. Whatever the reason to chalk it up to laziness, like some are trying to do, is fantasy.
It was the developer/company that decided to do the lock out based on it was nVidia's work and was supported by nVidia, imho. AMD was asked by the developer to do the same exact thing as nVidia for their customers to get AA in the earlier version of Batman AA, imho!
What may be a Logical explanation:
Eidos didn't desire to have any liabilities on AMD hardware based on it was nVidia's work and supported for nVidia hardware, imho
Because, from my understanding the land masses are built upon water with CryTech - it was there with Crysis as well. How about AMD offering more robust tessellation instead of offering that the 5XXX series was good enough and balanced.
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Wrong. The AA code was owned by Nvidia and they licensed it for use to Eidos. The vendor id was placed by Nvidia, and Eidos couldn't remove it without breaking their license agreement.
Where does it state this?
Richard Huddy said:AMD received an email dated Sept 29th at 5:22pm from Mr. Lee Singleton General Manager at Eidos Game Studios who stated that Eidos legal department is preventing Eidos from allowing ATI cards to run in-game antialiasing in Batman Arkham Asylum due to NVIDIA IP ownership issues over the antialiasing code, and that they are not permitted to remove the vendor ID filter.
Because, from my understanding the land masses are built upon water with CryTech - it was there with Crysis as well. How about AMD offering more robust tessellation instead of offering that the 5XXX series was good enough and balanced.