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Snowy Owl is HPC APU with 16C/32T and 4096 GCN cores.
So the TDP would be actually correct, for this chip.
I think there may have been confusion, X399 has to work with 8 channel memory controller, but there will be variety of chips available for this chipset.
what would the costs be for that?Not all that difficult for them to do what Intel does with HEDT and just push some consumer mobos with the server socket.
They are somewhat resources limited so they might not do it this year but they have no reason not to at some point.
Ofc if there is no x399, who cares, anyone can buy a server board and the 16 cores SKU. Nobody buys 16 cores for gaming or OC really so it would be more a matter of branding than anything else.
what would the costs be for that?
Rumors say end of 2017/early 2018 for Zen 2
They look to be bringing the fight to Intel, seems that no matter what, we enthusiasts will win!At least unlike Intel, AMD has ambitions to actually update its CPU cores over a reasonable period of time.
Yes, any improvement in IPC under 10% will be a fail for Zen+...At least unlike Intel, AMD has ambitions to actually update its CPU cores over a reasonable period of time.
AMD calls X370 its high end desktop platform
but 8 channels is what threw me off
At least unlike Intel, AMD has ambitions to actually update its CPU cores over a reasonable period of time.
This is questionable because the leaked Roadmap from yesterday indicated that AMD stays with Zen cores for the next year, means Zen 2 isn't coming before 2019. But in this year Intel is updating its lineup from mobile to server with Icelake as well. And for the entry desktop Raven Ridge isn't even coming this year, there is no Zen competitor for Intels Core i3 and Pentium (G4560!) lineup. These marketing Roadmaps from AMD were never useful anyways.
I cant find the roadmap, but i thought pinnacle ridge comes Q1 2018? That is zen2.This is questionable because the leaked Roadmap from yesterday indicated that AMD stays with Zen cores for the next year, means Zen 2 isn't coming before 2019. But in this year Intel is updating its lineup from mobile to server with Icelake as well. And for the entry desktop Raven Ridge isn't even coming this year, there is no Zen competitor for Intels Core i3 and Pentium (G4560!) lineup. These marketing Roadmaps from AMD were never useful anyways.
I cant find the roadmap, but i thought pinnacle ridge comes Q1 2018? That is zen2.
RR will be on zen1 for ages though and stoney ridge use excavator.
Thanks, but im sure its zen 2, or zen +.
Pinnacle Ridge is Zen, not Zen2. Looks like another Bristol Ridge/Kaby Lake kind of deal here.
Thanks, but im sure its zen 2, or zen +.
Its another bulldozer - piledriver, or in amds own words "tock tock tock".
Unless on 14nm lpu amd would have no reason to tape out another 8 core processor if using the same cores and process, if they are not taping a new die then why would they call it pinnacle ridge? They would just respin summitridge and add a 50 on the end or something as there is nothing else on die to change unlike apus which have graphics.
I expect pinnacle ridge to fix some low hanging fruit, Either amd themselves or publications the last week with knowledge mention 15% ipc, whether this is accurate i dont know, i expect 5-10% ipc with slightly better clocks.
No the clue is in the die code name, if you look at raven ridge and stoney ridge they keep the same code names through to 2019, why? Because it is the same die/generation, if you look at bristol ridge it was the same processor cores but had updated IMC for ddr4 amongst a few other changes, because it was an apu they could change other things on die and get away with calling it a new generation, likewise with kabylake which had a few changes and a new process variant.If it were Zen 2, it would say something like:
The fact that it just says Zen means exactly that -- it's the OG Zen.
- Up to 8 "next generation Zen" cores
- Up to 8 "enhanced Zen" cores
- Up to 8 "Zen 2" cores
No the clue is in the die code name, if you look at raven ridge and stoney ridge they keep the same code names through to 2019, why? Because it is the same die/generation, if you look at bristol ridge it was the same processor cores but had updated IMC for ddr4 amongst a few other changes, because it was an apu they could change other things on die and get away with calling it a new generation, likewise with kabylake which had a few changes and a new process variant.
If you you look at RR and SR there is new name because is the same processor, so with nothing else to change on die and presumably exactly the same 14nm lpp process why would the name it pinnacle ridge instead of summitridge?
Looking at the first official roadmap in this thread longside AMD tock tock comments as well as reason stated above we must surely conclude pinnacle ridge = zen 2.
Ok, but that optimisation would surely include some low hanging fruit ipc improvements no? = zen2.I respectfully disagree. Pinnacle Ridge could be a circuit/process optimization of Summit Ridge.
Bristol Ridge in terms of the functional blocks on the die was practically identical to Carrizo, the main improvements were in the process and I believe firmware.