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NTMBK

Lifer
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Although we have a good faith belief in our analysis and believe it to be objective and unbiased, you are advised that we may have, either directly or indirectly, an economic interest in the performance of the securities of the companies whose products are the subject of our reports. Any other organizations named in this website have not confirmed the accuracy or determined the adequacy of its contents.
https://amdflaws.com/disclaimer.html
 

DarkKnightDude

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Something seems really fishy. This website wasn't even around a few weeks ago.

Also the whitepaper claims you need to flash the BIOS or have administration privileges to take advantage of the flaws... not even remotely on the level of Meltdown. If you have that level of access, you can do anything to the system anyway!!!!!!!!!
 

PhonakV30

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What's mean of "admin-level privileges " ? click right mouse on exe file and choose "Run as administrator", right?
 

caswow

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What's mean of "admin-level privileges " ? click right mouse on exe file and choose "Run as administrator", right?

yea basically own the system. oh god comedy at its finest. amd should sue this is too obvious.
 

The Stilt

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Most of these claims sound rather "interesting", to say at least.

Ryzen is protected to hell and back, to a point which I don't think is even necessary for consumer parts.
The security is so high that even some of the standard hardware access methods are blocked, and things which can be accessed on every other system ever made cannot be as it is exclusively prevented by the security.

So unless the platform security processor (PSP) has a critical vulnerability which allows you the bypass all of the various protection mechanisms for the different firmwares, I'd say there is no way you can do the things described.
 

thecoolnessrune

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Most of these claims sound rather "interesting", to say at least.

Ryzen is protected to hell and back, to a point which I don't think is even necessary for consumer parts.
The security is so high that even some of the standard hardware access methods are blocked, and things which can be accessed on every other system ever made cannot be as it is exclusively prevented by the security.

So unless the platform security processor (PSP) has a critical vulnerability which allows you the bypass all of the various protection mechanisms for the different firmwares, I'd say there is no way you can do the things described.

But it's so easy! Just re-write an entire BIOS to somehow contain a functional, usable Malware, and be physically in place to bring down the system and flash it yourself. I mean, anyone could do that, couldn't they?
 

Tuna-Fish

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So if you've already pwned the system, you can pwn it? Cool exploit.

Mostly it seems to be about attacking the security systems that are supposed to keep keys hidden even from root access. These have some validity in places like very tightly locked down enterprise systems, that are supposed to provide layered protection of important secrets even against malice or complete stupidity of the users. But IMHO comparing these to Spectre and Meltdown is laughable. They are sort of comparable to the ME hacks.
 
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PingSpike

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heh, I wouldn't be surprised if this was more of a project from one of Goldman's teams, as they seem to be rather involved in AMD stock manipulation for the last couple of years, at least: constantly lowering valuations, then buying up huge chunks. Again and again.

Or not just Goldman: a direct manipulation scheme for any kind of fun or investment bank; not so much Intel or actual competitors. ....this would be catastrophically stupid of Intel to attempt such a thing, obviously.

That seems more like the kind of scam this is. Prime the stocks to either unload Intel or devalue AMD temporarily to buy. It does seem to stupid for Intel themselves to do, although their response to meltdown was basically the same kind of well poisoning so maybe I'm overestimating them.
 

thecoolnessrune

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god damn some of the so called "media press" failed so hard. they simply repeating what these "white papers" said without questioning it. bunch of tools

The guy at Viceroy Research that @zinfamous posted earlier is on CNBC's Halftime Report Investment Show reiterating how the only way out from this is Chapter 11. A show about investing money has some no-name on the show discussing a report from a no-name Security Firm less than 24 hours after declaration, with literally no time for AMD to confirm / deny the findings.

I don't remember *any* similar activity over Meltdown / Spectre, and they had months to prepare their statements. It's just crazy.

EDIT: I should correct my rant and note that in the Investment World, Viceroy Research isn't a no-name. They're professional pushers of drama in the stocks world.
 

Atari2600

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Mostly it seems to be about attacking the security systems that are supposed to keep keys hidden even from root access.

Correction - its about attacking AMD's share price.

Did you not see the NTMBK post #26 - he didn't fake that!

A bunch of criminals that should be locked up. No doubt at least one of them is a greasy lawyer that believes they've walked the tightrope of legality - even though what they are doing is utterly immoral.
 

Hitman928

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The guy at Viceroy Research that @zinfamous posted earlier is on CNBC's Halftime Report Investment Show reiterating how the only way out from this is Chapter 11. A show about investing money has some no-name on the show discussing a report from a no-name Security Firm less than 24 hours after declaration, with literally no time for AMD to confirm / deny the findings.

I don't remember *any* similar activity over Meltdown / Spectre, and they had months to prepare their statements. It's just crazy.

EDIT: I should correct my rant and note that in the Investment World, Viceroy Research isn't a no-name. They're professional pushers of drama in the stocks world.

Did Viceroy get on CNBC today? Scott Wapner on twitter said that they were pulling out of doing the AMD story.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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The guy at Viceroy Research that @zinfamous posted earlier is on CNBC's Halftime Report Investment Show reiterating how the only way out from this is Chapter 11. A show about investing money has some no-name on the show discussing a report from a no-name Security Firm less than 24 hours after declaration, with literally no time for AMD to confirm / deny the findings.

I don't remember *any* similar activity over Meltdown / Spectre, and they had months to prepare their statements. It's just crazy.

EDIT: I should correct my rant and note that in the Investment World, Viceroy Research isn't a no-name. They're professional pushers of drama in the stocks world.

credit where credit is due: NTMBK linked that first.
 

krumme

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And if people wonder why crypto valuta gain traction they can look at this expensive theater show. Adds absolutely no value. Its like there is a constant 8% transaction tax on money.
So much bs flowing through the system and lots of people employed with non productive jobs if not directly counter productive as this. What a waste of time and ressources.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Stock price has so far gained about 3.2% today from its lowest dip this morning, so manipulation probably successful. ...but I didn't consider the timing wrg release to Zen+ within a month. This certainly could be more than simple stock manipulation.

Hopefully SEC takes this up and FBI gets involved with "CT Security" and their money trail.
 
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