When you are too slow to catch something it's better asking questions first or you might end up looking like an ignorant loudmouth calling others comical...
i been following their progress heavily because ATI card performance is directly relevant to my distributed computing projects, which run way faster on ATI cards. this launch, theres inventory on shelves most of the time, at least around here, but its not like they're just sitting there the way nvidia's cards were for a while. i remember i watched the 480 and 470 for a while after they came out, and stock levels hardly budged for a month or 2, was kind of sad. only once nvidia started rapidly slashing prices and the 460 came out did i see sales pick up on them, and in our stores it was mainly because we were still running the peak prices on all the ATI cards while nvidia cards were on sale with huge MIRs. the fact is, right now frys at least is overpricing ATIs cards consistently vs nvidia's offerings, but it still isnt stopping people from buying ATI anyway, though nvidia's sales arent at a stand still like they were 6 months ago
There isn't any shortage of those chips. AMD is using the time to make 69xx faster than it would have been before seeing GTX580. Simple. The chip shortage is IMHO, absolute BS.
See post #73.
There isn't any shortage of those chips. AMD is using the time to make 69xx faster than it would have been before seeing GTX580. Simple. The chip shortage is IMHO, absolute BS.
I want to personally laugh at people who think that this is damage control. What damage control? Perhaps it was an honest statement of facts? How many of you work in electronics stores? Here, let me quote someone who works in a Fry's and you can draw your own conclusions (in addition to the well known ~85% DX11 market share AMD currently has) about AMD's GPU sales, okay? From this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2119132
See that bit? See the bit before it regarding AMD's sales (and you can read his various posts in that thread implying that AMD's cards have been selling well)? Why would they need damage control when Joe Blow is buying up cards left and right? He works in a Fry's, and says that AMDs cards have been selling well. I am not being a fanboy or a zoner with this post, I'm merely being accurate.
It's stupid to claim that this is damage control, unless you think that AMD's cards aren't selling well. Do you have proof of that? No? Well, then I guess they are selling well. It sort of makes sense (the email that apoppin got). Why marginalize your own cards on shelves when you don't have to? Or he's lying, AMD were caught with their pants down, they are in serious trouble because the 580 is going to sell hundreds of thousands if not millions of units and totally dominate the huge market that is 499+ video cards oh...wait, it isn't a big market. So it's not a big deal. Yeesh.
Well, to be fair, AMD is making no excuses at all; they are saying that they are in a good position and that they are taking a "bit more time".There isn't any shortage of those chips. AMD is using the time to make 69xx faster than it would have been before seeing GTX580. Simple. The chip shortage is IMHO, absolute BS.
. . . we are going to take a bit more time before shipping the AMD Radeon HD 6900 series
that the 580 wins in all DX11 gaming benchmarks)
Guru3D's article said:The chaps over at vrzone report that AMD Radeon HD 6970 boards are delayed as AMD is facing yield issues with its upcoming flagship GPU. However, an insider has shared a contradicting piece of news: the card's delay is not due to yield issues - production is perfectly fine, but rather a shortage of a particular component from Texas Instruments (TI) is the root cause of the hold-up.
This TI component is an integrated driver-MOSFET (DrMOS) that was first used on AMD's Radeon HD 6800 Series. This DrMOS is so new to the point there is no information on it on the Web, not even from the manufacturer itself.
Supply of this DrMOS is limited, and since the Radeon HD 6800 Series and upcoming HD 6900 Series share the same VRM design, any (tight) supply from TI is shared between all the cards. This leads to a delay in HD 6970 card manufacturing, with partners receiving their final boards late as well.
It is interesting to note that AMD has also withheld the final BIOS from partners. It is an open question as to whether NVIDIA's just-launched GeForce GTX 580 flagship GPU and its performance figures has anything to do with this. That aside, the initial 22nd November date may be set to change; AIBs will only know the final launch date from AMD at the end of this week.
I find it funny that when AMD is later than expected it's because they are tweaking the monster, but when NV was late it was because the end was near for NVIDIA and their engineers supposedly couldn't engineer themselves out of a wet paper bag.
c'mon... A little bit of perspective. I don't think AMD will end up having to delay Cayman as much as NV had to delay Fermi last year, but amid rumors of poor yield, component shortages, and a press release touting last year's card; it's pretty obvious that the delay was not planned.
Delays= troubles = excuses= losing the highend= damage controll
In red.^^^
Here comes the "excuses" why the delay isn't important.
It does, the 6970 is not out yet, so currently ithe gtx 580 wins in all benchmarks.
Are you in the right thread?
Delays= troubles = excuses= losing the highend= damage controll
In red.^^^
Here comes the "excuses" why the delay isn't important.
Ummm...the 5970 wins in some of the DX11 benchmarks...and I'm pretty sure that was what was meant.
He's right though. There was a megathread a while back about revenues coming from various segments and >$300 cards made up something like 5% of sales, and mobile discrete chips sell more than desktop, anyway, so the total market for >$300 chips is ~2% of the non-IGP market. So what's the total market for >$500 chips, like 0.5%? Granted, they are more profitable so even 0.5% share could translate to, say, 5% of profits or something, but 5% isn't a huge hit
Well, to be fair, AMD is making no excuses at all; they are saying that they are in a good position and that they are taking a "bit more time".
You're back to your Nvidia ad campaign here, and it's tiresome
We are talking delays, problems ,and excuses, right? How did the market share and profits of a delayed card vs the gtx580 come into play?
If it were released today I bet the 6970 would be important ha?
Really, and you have this opinion of me in 10 months and 142 posts? No offence.
Ummm...the 5970 wins in some of the DX11 benchmarks...and I'm pretty sure that was what was meant.
OT, delay sucks. Oh well, I myself probably won't have time to pick up a new card for a while yet..maybe the 570 will be out by then too.