AMD's Tonga - R9 285 (Specs) and R9 285X (Partial Specs)

[ElFenix]

It was hyped too much and a letdown.

hyped too much? what planet are you living on? there's barely any hype, from the start of this thread it was 'meh.'

 

[Keysplayr]

hyped too much? what planet are you living on? there's barely any hype, from the start of this thread it was 'meh.'

The name. 285. Many expected faster than oh I don't know...... a 280X?

I know I did. My biggest problem with it is the name they went with.

370X? 280XL? No need to be from Mars to see this.

 

[Attic]

I haven't F5 F5 F5'd this hard on anandtech a main page in awhile.

More excited for review than the card if that makes any sense.

GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE!!!

 

[Keysplayr]

I wouldn't mind having one. Love new toys.

 

[Wild Thing]

A 40% savings in memory bandwidth that allows a 172GB/s card to perform nearly as well as a 288GB/s R9 280X card is a very significant innovation.

Seeing a gimpy Tonga whip a full-blown 290X in geometry throughput ought to give anyone who appreciates GPU tech warm thoughts, too.

The R9 285 is a solid product at an OK price, but Tonga is really interesting. With this tech, AMD could deliver a lot more performance for the money when needed. And they can maybe compete with Maxwell on all fronts.

What AMD did not do here is spin. Don't dismiss the notable new tech just because they didn't call it AMD DeltaCrunch Technology and make a Ruby demo about it.

-Scott Wasson The Tech Report

I think there's been enough anti AMD trolling in this thread....try and learn from the above quote.

 

[3DVagabond]

Yes. You must have. The nomenclature alone would be enough.

You call that hype?

ULTIMATE POWER. THE NEW GEFORCE® GTX™ TITAN Z.
GeForce® GTX™ TITAN Z is a gaming monster, the fastest card we’ve ever built to power the most extreme PC gaming rigs on the planet. Stacked with 5760 cores and 12 GB of memory, this dual GPU gives you the power to drive even the most insane multi-monitor displays and 4K hyper PC machines

What would THIS be then?

 

[boxleitnerb]

GPU A produces 30fps by using 100Watts, performance per watt is 0.3

GPU B produces 70fps by using 250Watts, performance per watt is 0.28

GPU B has lower performance per watt but it is more than 2x faster

At a given TDP, i.e. ca. 250W for a high end GPU. That was quite clear, but it seems you don't want to understand...

 

[Cloudfire777]

And here is Nvidia's respond to the R9 285.
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/204863/nvidia-tweaking-geforce-gtx-770-price-to-compete-with-r9-285.html

See, if AMD actually had some new architecture with this chip, Nvidia couldnt have responded as effectively. Instead all AMD is doing is "forcing" Nvidia to do a minor price adjustment on the almost 3 year old ancient technology.

If AMD was able to compete instead of pushing out rebrands with minor tweaks, we could have a Maxwell vs whateverAMDcallsit, not just 750 Ti, but also the upcoming 900 series.

Try to keep up AMD

 

[Wild Thing]

And here is Nvidia's respond to the R9 285.
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/2...rce-gtx-770-price-to-compete-with-r9-285.html

See, if AMD actually had some new architecture with this chip, Nvidia couldnt have responded as effectively. Instead all AMD is doing is "forcing" Nvidia to do a minor price adjustment on the almost 3 year old ancient technology.

If AMD was able to compete instead of pushing out rebrands with minor tweaks, we could have a Maxwell vs whateverAMDcallsit, not just 750 Ti, but also the upcoming 900 series.

Try to keep up AMD

Kinda like $999 R295 X2 versus $1890 TitanZ eh?
Oh..wait a minute..:whiste:

 

[Cloudfire777]

Kinda like $999 R295 X2 versus $1890 TitanZ eh?
Oh..wait a minute..:whiste:

Why are you even bringing up these cards? It is bloody obvious that Nvidia have a different customer base they know will buy the card regardless the price premium over AMD. Not just TitanZ is double the price of AMD cards but pretty much all unlocked GK110 cards. Why is that so hard to understand?

AMD do their thing, Nvidia theirs. Its the reason why the two can coexist.
But AMD not ready with a new architecture, when Nvidia had their first 2 Maxwell for over half year plus is soon ready with 3 more. That isnt exactly promising if they want to innovate and compete

 

[monstercameron]

Why are you even bringing up these cards? It is bloody obvious that Nvidia have a different customer base they know will buy the card regardless the price premium over AMD. Not just TitanZ is double the price of AMD cards but pretty much all unlocked GK110 cards. Why is that so hard to understand?

AMD do their thing, Nvidia theirs. Its the reason why the two can coexist.
But AMD not ready with a new architecture, when Nvidia had their first 2 Maxwell for over half year plus is soon ready with 3 more. That isnt exactly promising if they want to innovate and compete

what does this even mean? innovative cooling solutions, innovative apis, innovative feature set? to infer that they cant innovate is...[cant find words.]

 

[NTMBK]

You call that hype?


What would THIS be then?

That would be a piss-poor attempt at derailing...

 

[Cloudfire777]

what does this even mean? innovative cooling solutions, innovative apis, innovative feature set? to infer that they cant innovate is...[cant find words.]

Efficency:
Increase performance/watt
Increase performance/dollar (against their own cards)

That is what new architectures are about.

Not releasing an identical R9 280 with less VRAM and less bandwidth.
That some people call the negativity against 285 "anti AMD", it says a lot.
If Tonga was AMDs Maxwell, Id be super happy. Not just for the card but also for the GPU race we will have between the two.

 

[Keysplayr]

You call that hype?

Yes. I do.

What would THIS be then?

Accurate. But unsure why you would introduce Nvidia when we are talking about an AMD gpu. Reason?

 

[Erenhardt]

Accurate. But unsure why you would introduce Nvidia when we are talking about an AMD gpu. Reason?

Sure. Good no one came here with their maxwell parade, oh wait.

 

[AtenRa]

And here is Nvidia's respond to the R9 285.
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/204863/nvidia-tweaking-geforce-gtx-770-price-to-compete-with-r9-285.html

See, if AMD actually had some new architecture with this chip, Nvidia couldnt have responded as effectively. Instead all AMD is doing is "forcing" Nvidia to do a minor price adjustment on the almost 3 year old ancient technology.

If AMD was able to compete instead of pushing out rebrands with minor tweaks, we could have a Maxwell vs whateverAMDcallsit, not just 750 Ti, but also the upcoming 900 series.

Try to keep up AMD

Almost 15,5% decrease in MSRP is not a minor price adjustment, it really shows NVIDIA cares more about Tonga than people in this thread.

 

[3DVagabond]

Accurate. But unsure why you would introduce Nvidia when we are talking about an AMD gpu. Reason?

We were talking about hype. You had already moved away from the GPU aspect.

 

[Gloomy]

AMD has no obligation to compete with itself, only with its competitors. And they've been kicking Nvidia around the curb in the 200-300 dollar price range since the 5770.

So all this hullabaloo over this card seems disingenuous at best. Instead of wondering why AMD isn't upping the ante on its own offerings, why not ask why Nvidia is still selling the 760 for 260+ dollars?

 

[Silverforce11]

why not ask why Nvidia is still selling the 760 for 260+ dollars?

Because they can.

Obviously heaps of people buy it at that price, why would they need to lower it?

For a large part of the popular who buy video cards, AMD isn't even a competitor to NV, nobody is.

 

[Gloomy]

That's not my point. Seriously I think people are just trolling at this point. I'm not sure why I bothered to log in and post, you're all obviously just trying to bait and make me mad.

Just explain to me why AMD would sell this card for less than 250 dollars when the competition is selling a SLOWER card, sometimes as much as THIRTY PERCENT slower, for more money? Seriously, what possible reason could AMD have for conceding a price advantage?

WTF is wrong with you people.

 

[sontin]

Almost 15,5% decrease in MSRP is not a minor price adjustment, it really shows NVIDIA cares more about Tonga than people in this thread.

The fact that they are using a 30months old GPU to compete with AMD's latest GPU architecture should tell you enough.

They care so much about Tongo that they will sell the successor of the GTX770 for $499 while AMD is selling the successor of Tahiti for the same or less. :|

 

[Erenhardt]

The fact that they are using a 30months old GPU to compete with AMD's latest GPU architecture should tell you enough.

They care so much about Tongo that they will sell the successor of the GTX770 for $499 while AMD is selling the successor of Tahiti for the same or less. :|

285/x is successor of 280/x obviously... What's the Comedy Central doing here?

You wanted amd to name it r9 370 so much that you believed yourself. ^^

 

[JDG1980]

R9 285 may not be the world's most exciting card, but the snubbing by Anandtech is brutal.

 

[sontin]

285/x is successor of 280/x obviously... What's the Comedy Central doing here?

You wanted amd to name it r9 370 so much that you believed yourself. ^^

And GM204 is not the successor of GK104 because they will name it GTX980, right? :awe:

 

[Keysplayr]

We were talking about hype. You had already moved away from the GPU aspect.

Yeah, hype about a gpu. So I guess I didnt do what you said I did.