AMD's X2 A Failure Over At Tom's

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FlameDeer

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Both system is purposely restart & reset counter about 1 hour ago.

The P4 stability issues make me fear of the next system down is the P4 EE 3.4 GHz live server.

After this restart, P4 temp roar to amazing 90C which is nearly double of the Athlon 64 X2 55C reading. Remember that 90C is nearly the boiling temp of water! :shocked:

P4 temp must easily over 100C if outside the lab or air conditioning environment. Maybe Athlon 64 X2 will have lower temp if it is not in the same room with P4.

I really don't see any meaning or purpose of giving "power consumption of both systems" readings. Perhaps a "power consumption of whole room" or "power consumption of whole building" is more practical & can help in calculate their electrical bill, haha!
 

Icopoli

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Why does in the Intel system have HT enabled? I'm curious to see the results of what would happen if they did turn it off, because right now the AMD system is nipping at the heels of the Intel one.
 

The Pentium Guy

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Even if we create a new thread, the trolls'll join there. Ugh. I mean can't we all have an educated discussion (sorry if I'm generalizing you into a category, I'm referring only to the trolls)
 

porkster

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Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Even if we create a new thread, the trolls'll join there. Ugh. I mean can't we all have an educated discussion (sorry if I'm generalizing you into a category, I'm referring only to the trolls)

The trolls are all those not willing to see the facts in their face. They come in the thread and post crap like, I wont beleive this or that, or Thom has rigged the tests, etc.. Typical AMD community.

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The Pentium Guy

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Originally posted by: porkster
Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Even if we create a new thread, the trolls'll join there. Ugh. I mean can't we all have an educated discussion (sorry if I'm generalizing you into a category, I'm referring only to the trolls)

The trolls are all those not willing to see the facts in their face. They come in the thread and post crap like, I wont beleive this or that, or Thom has rigged the tests, etc.. Typical AMD community

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I must admit that you're stereotyping as well, please don't add fuel to the fire. It only makes things worse.
 
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SlitheryDee

Now the amd DC is lagging behind in all but one bench. What gives?

Edit: Was the amd system slow to get started on the first boot? I know it didn't pull ahead in 3/4 tests by acting as it is now.
 

Maximilian

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GO INTEL! WOO!

Although it is strange that the AMD isnt pulling ahead in Farcry as thats what theyre speciality is, games. Two p4's "glued together" is beating AMD's more "advanced" approach to duel core.
 

live2game

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YOU ARE THE FANBOY! YOU HATE AMD WITH YOUR LIFE! DON'T CALL OTHERS TROLLS IF YOU ARE THE TROLL! I HAVE HAD IT!! I AM TICKED OFF AT ALL YOU STUBBORN JACKA$$ES!
 

AnonymouseUser

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My god, THG is run by idiots. They completely forgot to mention that they replaced the Intel Gigabyte mobo with an Asus mobo...
 

kitkat22

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I have occasionally passed by this forum more for amusement's sake than anything. I would first like to point out that THG has posted an update and this helps explain a little in terms of what the heck is going on. I would like to point out specifically that THG has made mention the FACT that Windows is behind the the scheduling. Goodbye, problem one. Next, it would appear that the stability issues were probably because of the chipset on the Intel motherboard. Goodbye, problem two. Next up, the Farcry Demo after accomplishing 1000 runs turned itself off, explaining the drop in the AMD score. Goodbye, problem three. And the last I will mention, the two competitors have currently been standing for approx. 6hrs. it would appear that the performance numbers are leading to the same conclusions as before with only small insignificant variations. The conlusions that can be drawn from this rather odd test is that it is inconclusive. 7hrs. out with the intel test would have invalidated any other test, hence the restart. Since sheduling IS on the Windows side of things the performance numbers will invariably change according to Windows, not neccesarily to the processor. Give it a rest, please!
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: cscpianoman
I have occasionally passed by this forum more for amusement's sake than anything. I would first like to point out that THG has posted an update and this helps explain a little in terms of what the heck is going on. I would like to point out specifically that THG has made mention the FACT that Windows is behind the the scheduling. Goodbye, problem one. Next, it would appear that the stability issues were probably because of the chipset on the Intel motherboard. Goodbye, problem two. Next up, the Farcry Demo after accomplishing 1000 runs turned itself off, explaining the drop in the AMD score. Goodbye, problem three. And the last I will mention, the two competitors have currently been standing for approx. 6hrs. it would appear that the performance numbers are leading to the same conclusions as before with only small insignificant variations. The conlusions that can be drawn from this rather odd test is that it is inconclusive. 7hrs. out with the intel test would have invalidated any other test, hence the restart. Since sheduling IS on the Windows side of things the performance numbers will invariably change according to Windows, not neccesarily to the processor. Give it a rest, please!
Great post :beer: I'm out again

 

leigh6

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I give up trying to understand this thread.

I am getting a beer. It's Pabst Blue Ribbon for me. And in terms of crashes: I have crashed many times on Pabst.
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: leigh6
I give up trying to understand this thread.

I am getting a beer. It's Pabst Blue Ribbon for me. And in terms of crashes: I have crashed many times on Pabst.

One of the best posts in this thread !!!
 

prop329

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Papst, ewwwwwwww....lol
i can't do that stuff, but all the hicks round here love that stuff, swear by it
i like milwaukee's best, get's the job done nicely
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: classy
Intel has crashed two more times even after all the changes.

And the results are back to the same, AMD ahead in 3/4 ! and by a lot in all 3 !
 

Duvie

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Why the results are clearly fvcked up again since the Intel has been offline for up to 5-6 hours, AGAIN...the fact that doesn't ellude me was at the start of this test this 2nd round did not match the 1st round....The INtel for quite a while was leading in 3 out of the 4 test and that differed from the first 12 hours of the last weeks test where the AMD lead those 3 all the time and only blew them out after the INtel again had so much accumulative downtime....

Basically the dumbsh^t couldn't even reproduce his own results from the first time......No platform change would have resulted in the 20% difference in the CD encoding and about a 7-10% change in video encoding...

Then all of a sudden about several hours in the test the gaming took a nose dive and the AMD which was even at the time, blew buy to build a 33% lead before the reboot and downtime for the INtel machine...

I am suspicious of the 2nd test cause of this inital hours that did not match the first test (prior to reboots there as well)......Supposed to be same board for the AMD setup but if you had noticed the ram sticks looked differrent...Just an observation and not sure...
 
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