American Beheaded?

[MrPALCO]

"So, everyone in Kabul and Baghdad is guilty of being terrorists?" -- BaboonGuy

No. Sadly, in order for the maximum number of lives to be perserved, Wisdom would destroy the entire evil area and all that support it or allow it to remain.

Liberalism pays heed to civility but acts in ways that destroy the peace.

 

[Eli]

There is something very strange with this video.

I've been studying it, as hard as it is.

The screaming starts at about 2:44:34(video time), and continues through all of the timestamp changes.

They knock him over at about 2:44:41.

At 2:44:42, the timestamp changes to 13:45:47, where he is apparently in the same position. The camera is zooming in at this time, while the screaming continues. It is apparently zooming out and at 13:45:52, it appears done. But if you'll notice, at that moment the timestamp changes to 13:45:59. It is at this time that it appears that you see him convulse once more. Without being able to see that missing 7 seconds of video it is kinda difficult to determine what was happening before the fact, but it looks like a true muscle contraction, and not manipulation by the guy holding him. It looks like the guy holding him has his knees in his back, so it would have to be pretty forceful. Due to this fact, I think he is alive at this point in the video. I do not think that the audio that you hear at this point is the true audio, though.

Ooh. Interesting. There is a 7-8 second gap between when the screaming starts and when the timestamp changes to 13:45:47.

Here's what I think happened. They actually started at 13:45:40 video time. For whatever reason, they cut out the 7 seconds of video from 13:45:52 to 13:45:59.

I'm not really familiar with video editing software and how it works/limitations/etc, but it's like they cut the 7 seconds of video out from 13:45:52 to 13:45:59, but kept the audio the same length, so it screwed the sync up at that point or something.

Hmm.

Anyway.. If you'll notice, the guy in the white mask is holding him down, and the guy with the black mask and knife(obviously) is doing the cutting. Between 13:46:20 and 13:46:28, there are a number of time discrepencies where the seconds move faster than normal. My guess is this was their attempt at shortening the video to get the audio to sync at least somewhat - at the most dramatic moments.

At 13:46:33, the timestamp changes to 13:47:46.

At 13:47:47, the man in the white mask holds up the head, and is holding the knife.

 

[johnjbruin]

why did they use a camera with a timestamp on the video in the first place. who does that?
and if they wanted to "edit" the video - they would have removed all the timestamps from it - they are not morons. why give us more "clues" to put the info back together liek Eli just did above this post.

something is definitely very fishy about the video.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: NeoV
Supposedly on an Arabic-Militant web site there is video of an American soldier being beheaded....anyone see this?

I call shens

 

[moomoo40moo]

Nice checking of the time stamps Eli. Thats f'd up.

Off the subject though, why doesn't the US implant all soldiers and civilians working there with a tracking device? If you scroll down this website - http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,60771,00.html it shows a simple tracking device that can be implanted under the skin. This could be tied in with the gps with an ID tag assigned to each tracking device that would coincide to the name of the person. If this would happen, the US would have a record of where Joe Smith was at during a certain time. Also, then if any POW's were taken or civilians taken, their position would be known immedately, and the POW or captured civilian could be immedately rescued by special forces. I feel that this would greatly decrease the amount of POWs taken, or civilans captured. What would be the problem with these? The US military MUST have the technology to do this because of their almost bottomless budget. Invasion of privacy may also come into question as well. But the tracking devides could then be easily removed when the person returns back to the states. Plus, I think it might be legal for the military to know where all of it's soldiers are at all times. If this was implemented before the war started, Nick Berg would most likely be alive today, and his captors would be dealt with.

I dont know if this has been thought of before (probably) but why would it not be started already. I don't think it would really be all that hard to do.

 

[johnjbruin]

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo
Nice checking of the time stamps Eli. Thats f'd up.

Off the subject though, why doesn't the US implant all soldiers and civilians working there with a tracking device? If you scroll down this website - http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,60771,00.html it shows a simple tracking device that can be implanted under the skin. This could be tied in with the gps with an ID tag assigned to each tracking device that would coincide to the name of the person. If this would happen, the US would have a record of where Joe Smith was at during a certain time. Also, then if any POW's were taken or civilians taken, their position would be known immedately, and the POW or captured civilian could be immedately rescued by special forces. I feel that this would greatly decrease the amount of POWs taken, or civilans captured. What would be the problem with these? The US military MUST have the technology to do this because of their almost bottomless budget. Invasion of privacy may also come into question as well. But the tracking devides could then be easily removed when the person returns back to the states. Plus, I think it might be legal for the military to know where all of it's soldiers are at all times. If this was implemented before the war started, Nick Berg would most likely be alive today, and his captors would be dealt with.

I dont know if this has been thought of before (probably) but why would it not be started already. I don't think it would really be all that hard to do.

that is a pretty good idea. i think the soldiers themselves might be against it. its like being on a leash under your boss - in a weird way. if i was in the army - i'd let them implant that thing in me

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: LordMaul

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: SilverTorch
Google

says his throat was cut, not sure about the beheading

It was cut clean off. I have the video. They started at the front and sawed it off like they were cutting a steak or something.

Why would you search for and watch the video? That's just sick.

Do you ever watch porn? Do you ever watch violent movies? Do you cover your eyes when a girl walks by who's got a shirt that rides too low?

STFU. :|

Are you suggesting people watch beheading for pleasure ?

That's ridiculous. I was implying that curiosity drives people to do things that seem strange to other people.

Yeah, but you put watching a beheading on the same "strangeness" level as peaking at cleavage.

Sorry man, but that's just wrong.

It's called morbid curiousity people. get the fsck over it. I guess by most of your standards, I'd be the devil himself if that sort of thing rated what kind of a person you are. Besides, FFM doesn't have to answer to any of you; what are you, his mommies?

I understand morbid curiousity. But you don't really expect me to believe that it compares to taking a look at cleavage, do you?

 

[Amorphus]

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo
Nice checking of the time stamps Eli. Thats f'd up.

Off the subject though, why doesn't the US implant all soldiers and civilians working there with a tracking device? If you scroll down this website - http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,60771,00.html it shows a simple tracking device that can be implanted under the skin. This could be tied in with the gps with an ID tag assigned to each tracking device that would coincide to the name of the person. If this would happen, the US would have a record of where Joe Smith was at during a certain time. Also, then if any POW's were taken or civilians taken, their position would be known immedately, and the POW or captured civilian could be immedately rescued by special forces. I feel that this would greatly decrease the amount of POWs taken, or civilans captured. What would be the problem with these? The US military MUST have the technology to do this because of their almost bottomless budget. Invasion of privacy may also come into question as well. But the tracking devides could then be easily removed when the person returns back to the states. Plus, I think it might be legal for the military to know where all of it's soldiers are at all times. If this was implemented before the war started, Nick Berg would most likely be alive today, and his captors would be dealt with.

I dont know if this has been thought of before (probably) but why would it not be started already. I don't think it would really be all that hard to do.

that is a pretty good idea. i think the soldiers themselves might be against it. its like being on a leash under your boss - in a weird way. if i was in the army - i'd let them implant that thing in me

problem with that technology is that someone has to have a handheld scanner. all that sort of thing can do is hold information, not act as a GPS device.

in addition, I would not let a digital identifier be placed on my person anywhere.

 

[ninjazed]

Originally posted by: Amorphus

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo
Nice checking of the time stamps Eli. Thats f'd up.

Off the subject though, why doesn't the US implant all soldiers and civilians working there with a tracking device?.... But the tracking devides could then be easily removed when the person returns back to the states. Plus, I think it might be legal for the military to know where all of it's soldiers are at all times. If this was implemented before the war started, Nick Berg would most likely be alive today, and his captors would be dealt with.

I dont know if this has been thought of before (probably) but why would it not be started already. I don't think it would really be all that hard to do.

that is a pretty good idea. i think the soldiers themselves might be against it. its like being on a leash under your boss - in a weird way. if i was in the army - i'd let them implant that thing in me

problem with that technology is that someone has to have a handheld scanner. all that sort of thing can do is hold information, not act as a GPS device.

in addition, I would not let a digital identifier be placed on my person anywhere.

This is promising stuff, technology that provides a potential ass-jacking for the global terror network.
While handheld scanners are quoted, the company quoted above is holding out with portal scanner prices.
Cause they know that's the motherload baby. Think of it...
Portals set up like guard shacks throughout hostile territory providing a substantial monitored region.
Quick response to any such hostile activity would render the current sissified radical abduction techniques obsolete.
If I was going into harms way like that, I'd say "hook me the F*** up!" I want my peoples knowing right where I am, so we can all kick some ass, when someone trys to step, with such offensive human behavior.
Not a cure all and not perfect, but a great tool.

 

[Spongo]

sick.

 

[Rudee]

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo
Nice checking of the time stamps Eli. Thats f'd up.

Off the subject though, why doesn't the US implant all soldiers and civilians working there with a tracking device? If you scroll down this website - http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,60771,00.html it shows a simple tracking device that can be implanted under the skin. This could be tied in with the gps with an ID tag assigned to each tracking device that would coincide to the name of the person. If this would happen, the US would have a record of where Joe Smith was at during a certain time. Also, then if any POW's were taken or civilians taken, their position would be known immedately, and the POW or captured civilian could be immedately rescued by special forces. I feel that this would greatly decrease the amount of POWs taken, or civilans captured. What would be the problem with these? The US military MUST have the technology to do this because of their almost bottomless budget. Invasion of privacy may also come into question as well. But the tracking devides could then be easily removed when the person returns back to the states. Plus, I think it might be legal for the military to know where all of it's soldiers are at all times. If this was implemented before the war started, Nick Berg would most likely be alive today, and his captors would be dealt with.

I dont know if this has been thought of before (probably) but why would it not be started already. I don't think it would really be all that hard to do.

that is a pretty good idea. i think the soldiers themselves might be against it. its like being on a leash under your boss - in a weird way. if i was in the army - i'd let them implant that thing in me

That's a terrible idea. First there is the huge cost of it. Secondly, people don't want to walk around with electronic devices implanted in their skin. Also, you say that this would greatly decrease the amount of POW's taken. Most certainly, because instead of taking them as POW's, the indurgents, who will be aware of these devices, will now opt to quickly execute them instead. Great.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Rudee

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo
Nice checking of the time stamps Eli. Thats f'd up.

Off the subject though, why doesn't the US implant all soldiers and civilians working there with a tracking device? If you scroll down this website - http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,60771,00.html it shows a simple tracking device that can be implanted under the skin. This could be tied in with the gps with an ID tag assigned to each tracking device that would coincide to the name of the person. If this would happen, the US would have a record of where Joe Smith was at during a certain time. Also, then if any POW's were taken or civilians taken, their position would be known immedately, and the POW or captured civilian could be immedately rescued by special forces. I feel that this would greatly decrease the amount of POWs taken, or civilans captured. What would be the problem with these? The US military MUST have the technology to do this because of their almost bottomless budget. Invasion of privacy may also come into question as well. But the tracking devides could then be easily removed when the person returns back to the states. Plus, I think it might be legal for the military to know where all of it's soldiers are at all times. If this was implemented before the war started, Nick Berg would most likely be alive today, and his captors would be dealt with.

I dont know if this has been thought of before (probably) but why would it not be started already. I don't think it would really be all that hard to do.

that is a pretty good idea. i think the soldiers themselves might be against it. its like being on a leash under your boss - in a weird way. if i was in the army - i'd let them implant that thing in me

That's a terrible idea. First there is the huge cost of it. Secondly, people don't want to walk around with electronic devices implanted in their skin. Also, you say that this would greatly decrease the amount of POW's taken. Most certainly, because instead of taking them as POW's, the indurgents, who will be aware of these devices, will now opt to quickly execute them instead. Great.

Anytime a POW is taken hostage they have a good chance of dying! They may be executed faster, but at least we will know the position of the scum and we can exact swift revenge... I think it's a great idea.

 

[moshquerade]

i forget which public figure/politician it was but he said America should close it's doors to the world, not get involved with anyone else's problems and build up a megamilitary. we don't need them - they need us.
we go to war with these countries and tear them down and then spend mega-bucks to build them back up.
and why? it's not worth the price lately.

 

[Nanotech]

The fact of the matter is that if you look even remotely American and you are in any Middle Eastern/African Country than you take the chance of being beheaded or killed in any other way they see fit. If your an American and you don't like that than don't go overseas for several years.

 

[MDesigner]

Originally posted by: Nanotech
The fact of the matter is that if you look even remotely American and you are in any Middle Eastern/African Country than you take the chance of being beheaded or killed in any other way they see fit. If your an American and you don't like that than don't go overseas for several years.

I don't think it's the Americans that are getting targeted. I think it's the American Jews that these terrorists are executing.. because #1, they hate Jews, and #2, they want to send messages to America to keep out. They get to kill two birds with one stone, you see? Nick Berg was a Jew, as was Daniel Pearl. Coincidence? Highly highly doubtful.

But there's obviously more to this beheading than meets the eye. Nick had ties to Iraqis who were interested in Al Qaida. Something was up... they didn't just choose Nick randomly.

 

[mattFrogger]

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/downloads/cj_34947.wmv

Here it is. This is the unedited version

 

[geckojohn]

Originally posted by: mattFrogger
http://www.consumptionjunction.com/downloads/cj_34947.wmv

Here it is. This is the unedited version

OMG, that is probably the most disturbing video that i've ever seen. Those sick fvck's are crazy.