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Nitemare

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
So...they killed an American. What else is new? This is just being made in to a big deal because of the recent photos uncovered. I'm sure much worse than this has been done in the time period we've been over there.

Answer: KEEP THE F'N MEDIA AWAY FROM THE WAR.

What would Al Jazeera report then? Somebody has to act as the voice of terrorism & hate.

Originally posted by: CPA
Well, it looks like the media is starting to run with this allegation:

His captors said the United States refused to exchange him for prisoners in the Abu Ghraib prison.

I guess it's the military's fault for not giving in to their demands. :roll:

No, everything is Bush's fault. Stop stealing his limelight
 

beer

Lifer
Jun 27, 2000
11,169
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Time to kill another few thousand Iraqis in a few random cities with random machine gun fire and cluster bombs. I'm serious too, it worked last time they did something like this. When was the last time you heard anything from fallujah?
 

Squisher

Lifer
Aug 17, 2000
21,204
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Originally posted by: beer
Time to kill another few thousand Iraqis in a few random cities with random machine gun fire and cluster bombs. I'm serious too, it worked last time they did something like this. When was the last time you heard anything from fallujah?

Another P&Ner spreading his bile for all to see.
 

chrisms

Diamond Member
Mar 9, 2003
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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: SilverTorch
Google

says his throat was cut, not sure about the beheading

It was cut clean off. I have the video. They started at the front and sawed it off like they were cutting a steak or something.

Why would you search for and watch the video? That's just sick.

Do you ever watch porn? Do you ever watch violent movies? Do you cover your eyes when a girl walks by who's got a shirt that rides too low?

STFU. :|

you're an idiot

Why is he an idiot? I don't understand why he is being called sick, demented, etc.?

Like porn, most people are just curious to see what it looks like because they don't want to or can't perform the action themselves. We are all going to die one day, and I don't understand how you can call someone sick just because they are curious to see what is talked about so often.

I have seen a 'Too graphic for TV' movie once. I'm sure most people have. I'm not sick. I certainly didn't enjoy watching the video, but it was somewhat hard to turn it off because everytime I was curious to see what death looked like. When someone posts a link to a picture that says something like 'Caution: Graphic, disturbing picture' I will sometimes look at it anyways out of pure curiousity.

It isn't unnatural, and it isn't wrong. I'm sure if I died in a horrific accident, most passersby would take a peek at my mangled body. That doesn't anger me, it's just part of life.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
52,763
1
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Originally posted by: chrisms
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: SilverTorch
Google

says his throat was cut, not sure about the beheading

It was cut clean off. I have the video. They started at the front and sawed it off like they were cutting a steak or something.

Why would you search for and watch the video? That's just sick.

Do you ever watch porn? Do you ever watch violent movies? Do you cover your eyes when a girl walks by who's got a shirt that rides too low?

STFU. :|

you're an idiot

Why is he an idiot? I don't understand why he is being called sick, demented, etc.?

Like porn, most people are just curious to see what it looks like because they don't want to or can't perform the action themselves. We are all going to die one day, and I don't understand how you can call someone sick just because they are curious to see what is talked about so often.

I have seen a 'Too graphic for TV' movie once. I'm sure most people have. I'm not sick. I certainly didn't enjoy watching the video, but it was somewhat hard to turn it off because everytime I was curious to see what death looked like. When someone posts a link to a picture that says something like 'Caution: Graphic, disturbing picture' I will sometimes look at it anyways out of pure curiousity.

It isn't unnatural, and it isn't wrong. I'm sure if I died in a horrific accident, most passersby would take a peek at my mangled body. That doesn't anger me, it's just part of life.

Heh. Prepare to get labelled along with me simply because you defended me :roll:
 

Ranger X

Lifer
Mar 18, 2000
11,218
1
0
Originally posted by: chrisms

Why is he an idiot? I don't understand why he is being called sick, demented, etc.?

Like porn, most people are just curious to see what it looks like because they don't want to or can't perform the action themselves. We are all going to die one day, and I don't understand how you can call someone sick just because they are curious to see what is talked about so often.

I have seen a 'Too graphic for TV' movie once. I'm sure most people have. I'm not sick. I certainly didn't enjoy watching the video, but it was somewhat hard to turn it off because everytime I was curious to see what death looked like. When someone posts a link to a picture that says something like 'Caution: Graphic, disturbing picture' I will sometimes look at it anyways out of pure curiousity.

It isn't unnatural, and it isn't wrong. I'm sure if I died in a horrific accident, most passersby would take a peek at my mangled body. That doesn't anger me, it's just part of life.
But how can you compare porn with a video of someone getting beheaded? A better comparison would be those underground videos where men pick up prostitutes and kill them afterwards.
 

beer

Lifer
Jun 27, 2000
11,169
1
0
Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: beer
Time to kill another few thousand Iraqis in a few random cities with random machine gun fire and cluster bombs. I'm serious too, it worked last time they did something like this. When was the last time you heard anything from fallujah?

Another P&Ner spreading his bile for all to see.

You obviously don't seem to understand my opinions on P&N. In fact, seach for recent posts in OT with the subject of 'P&N' posted by me. I figure that if people are allowed to flagrantly troll and the mods aren't going to do anything (i,e heartsurgeon) I might as well do the same, since it's good for a rise out of people.
 

Nitemare

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
35,461
4
76
Originally posted by: Ranger X
Originally posted by: chrisms

Why is he an idiot? I don't understand why he is being called sick, demented, etc.?

Like porn, most people are just curious to see what it looks like because they don't want to or can't perform the action themselves. We are all going to die one day, and I don't understand how you can call someone sick just because they are curious to see what is talked about so often.

I have seen a 'Too graphic for TV' movie once. I'm sure most people have. I'm not sick. I certainly didn't enjoy watching the video, but it was somewhat hard to turn it off because everytime I was curious to see what death looked like. When someone posts a link to a picture that says something like 'Caution: Graphic, disturbing picture' I will sometimes look at it anyways out of pure curiousity.

It isn't unnatural, and it isn't wrong. I'm sure if I died in a horrific accident, most passersby would take a peek at my mangled body. That doesn't anger me, it's just part of life.
But how can you compare porn with a video of someone getting beheaded? A better comparison would be those underground videos where men pick up prostitutes and kill them afterwards.

There was a market for the Faces of Death series if I was not mistaken
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
52,763
1
0
Originally posted by: Ranger X
Originally posted by: chrisms

Why is he an idiot? I don't understand why he is being called sick, demented, etc.?

Like porn, most people are just curious to see what it looks like because they don't want to or can't perform the action themselves. We are all going to die one day, and I don't understand how you can call someone sick just because they are curious to see what is talked about so often.

I have seen a 'Too graphic for TV' movie once. I'm sure most people have. I'm not sick. I certainly didn't enjoy watching the video, but it was somewhat hard to turn it off because everytime I was curious to see what death looked like. When someone posts a link to a picture that says something like 'Caution: Graphic, disturbing picture' I will sometimes look at it anyways out of pure curiousity.

It isn't unnatural, and it isn't wrong. I'm sure if I died in a horrific accident, most passersby would take a peek at my mangled body. That doesn't anger me, it's just part of life.
But how can you compare porn with a video of someone getting beheaded? A better comparison would be those underground videos where men pick up prostitutes and kill them afterwards.

*sigh* I guess I'll actuall try explaining. :roll:

Who cares what the video is. It's the motivation behind wanting to see the video that is being compared.
 

sygyzy

Lifer
Oct 21, 2000
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You guys are smoking crack if you think none of the prisoners were tortured or killed.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Not to mention there is a diffrence in killing/torture of a POW and the beheading of a civilian. this guy was not even in the military.
 

GRIFFIN1

Golden Member
Nov 10, 1999
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I think it's time to give the people of Iraq what they want. We need to pull all the Americans out of Iraq. Destroy the power, communications, and water supplies. Cut off the food supply and wait for them starve to death. The american soldiers will be moved to the borders so they can kill anything that tries to cross.
 

OCNewbie

Diamond Member
Jul 18, 2000
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I'd be curious to see that video. Not because I'd in any way get off on it. It's just something I don't think I've ever seen before, and I could imagine what it would be like, but knowing that it's actually happened, and on video, I'm a bit curious just to see it actually take place. It's likely I'd find it disturbing, and may not even wanna watch the whole thing. Maybe I seek the shock value of watching it? I dunno.

I'll have to say that I totally disagree with any negotiations for prisoner exchange. How could anyone rationally measure the exchange of (most likely) murderous terrorists for the a completely innocent American hostage, who was over there to help rebuild their own city to begin with. The terrorist's are where they belong, the American's capture makes no sense whatsoever. It's unfortunate they chose to kill him, but as long as people are kidnappable, and we continue to capture criminals over there, if we even negotiate one time, what's to keep them from continuing to kidnap innocents for the exchange for their terrorist allies held rightfully captive. I guess that is pretty obvious.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
36,410
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Originally posted by: OCNewbie
I'd be curious to see that video. Not because I'd in any way get off on it. It's just something I don't think I've ever seen before, and I could imagine what it would be like, but knowing that it's actually happened, and on video, I'm a bit curious just to see it actually take place. It's likely I'd find it disturbing, and may not even wanna watch the whole thing. Maybe I seek the shock value of watching it? I dunno.

I'll have to say that I totally disagree with any negotiations for prisoner exchange. How could anyone rationally measure the exchange of (most likely) murderous terrorists for the a completely innocent American hostage, who was over there to help rebuild their own city to begin with. The terrorist's are where they belong, the American's capture makes no sense whatsoever. It's unfortunate they chose to kill him, but as long as people are kidnappable, and we continue to capture criminals over there, if we even negotiate one time, what's to keep them from continuing to kidnap innocents for the exchange for their terrorist allies held rightfully captive. I guess that is pretty obvious.

no, you dont want to see it. I saw the vid with the russian soldier getting his throat slit and it really bothered me on a deep level.
 

Ilmater

Diamond Member
Jun 13, 2002
7,516
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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: chrisms
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: SilverTorch
Google

says his throat was cut, not sure about the beheading

It was cut clean off. I have the video. They started at the front and sawed it off like they were cutting a steak or something.

Why would you search for and watch the video? That's just sick.

Do you ever watch porn? Do you ever watch violent movies? Do you cover your eyes when a girl walks by who's got a shirt that rides too low?

STFU. :|

you're an idiot

Why is he an idiot? I don't understand why he is being called sick, demented, etc.?

Like porn, most people are just curious to see what it looks like because they don't want to or can't perform the action themselves. We are all going to die one day, and I don't understand how you can call someone sick just because they are curious to see what is talked about so often.

I have seen a 'Too graphic for TV' movie once. I'm sure most people have. I'm not sick. I certainly didn't enjoy watching the video, but it was somewhat hard to turn it off because everytime I was curious to see what death looked like. When someone posts a link to a picture that says something like 'Caution: Graphic, disturbing picture' I will sometimes look at it anyways out of pure curiousity.

It isn't unnatural, and it isn't wrong. I'm sure if I died in a horrific accident, most passersby would take a peek at my mangled body. That doesn't anger me, it's just part of life.

Heh. Prepare to get labelled along with me simply because you defended me :roll:
I'm on your side too, and in fact, I'd like to see the video. I'm not sick or disgusting, I'm just curious as to what that looks like. I'm not glad it happened, but I'm curious about it. Nothing more.

Let them all talk smack. BRING IT B1TCHES!!!
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
52,763
1
0
Originally posted by: OCNewbie
I'd be curious to see that video. Not because I'd in any way get off on it. It's just something I don't think I've ever seen before, and I could imagine what it would be like, but knowing that it's actually happened, and on video, I'm a bit curious just to see it actually take place. It's likely I'd find it disturbing, and may not even wanna watch the whole thing. Maybe I seek the shock value of watching it? I dunno.

I'll have to say that I totally disagree with any negotiations for prisoner exchange. How could anyone rationally measure the exchange of (most likely) murderous terrorists for the a completely innocent American hostage, who was over there to help rebuild their own city to begin with. The terrorist's are where they belong, the American's capture makes no sense whatsoever. It's unfortunate they chose to kill him, but as long as people are kidnappable, and we continue to capture criminals over there, if we even negotiate one time, what's to keep them from continuing to kidnap innocents for the exchange for their terrorist allies held rightfully captive. I guess that is pretty obvious.

It's actually quite disgusting, disturbing, and wasn't anything like what I thought a beheading would be like. If you find it, great. If I find it, I won't be passing it around.
 

Ilmater

Diamond Member
Jun 13, 2002
7,516
1
0
Originally posted by: GRIFFIN1
I think it's time to give the people of Iraq what they want. We need to pull all the Americans out of Iraq. Destroy the power, communications, and water supplies. Cut off the food supply and wait for them starve to death. The american soldiers will be moved to the borders so they can kill anything that tries to cross.
Is it wrong that I agree?

They want us out so badly, but what the fvck would they do without us? They hav eno government, no system of commerce, nothing.

The problem is, we need to stay there just so that some radical Islamic government doesn't take power. The last thing we need is another psycho Muslim running a country in the Mideast.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
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great CNN, fox had a 3 minute talk on it. and BACK to the prisoner abuse scandal. WTF!
 

Zombie

Platinum Member
Dec 8, 1999
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This shouldn't come as a surprise after the prisoner abuse issue became public. If you wanna blame somebody blame the stupid prison gaurds who put everybody else's life in danger.
 

Wingznut

Elite Member
Dec 28, 1999
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Originally posted by: Zombie
This shouldn't come as a surprise after the prisoner abuse issue became public. If you wanna blame somebody blame the stupid prison gaurds who put everybody else's life in danger.
Do you really think this would NOT have happened if the photos of Abu Ghraib never came out?
 
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