Americans are down on America

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/americans-are-down-on-america-190304928.html

We’re No. 33!

That’s the bottom line in a new Gallup poll measuring the extent of freedom in 135 countries. Only 79% of Americans say they’re satisfied with their freedom to choose what to do with their lives, down from 87% in 2008. The top five nations where people feel most satisfied with their freedoms are New Zealand, Australia, Cambodia, Sweden and the United Arab Emirates. At No. 33, the United States is sandwiched between Bahrain and Cameroon.

Gallup doesn’t define “freedom” in this poll, so citizens of different countries are likely to interpret the word differently. That’s why Cambodians — enjoying peaceful elections as they recover from years of war — rank among the top five. Still, changes over time show whether people in a given nation feel their freedoms are improving or deteriorating.

The United States is one of the few places where freedoms appear to be on the wane. Of the 100 countries where Gallup measured changes in freedom during the past five years, 75 of them registered an improvement, while 21 registered a decline. Four stayed the same. Of the decliners, only five nations report sharper drops than the United States. Two of them — Syria and Afghanistan — are dominated by armed uprisings. Two others — Tajikistan and Thailand — are racked with political turmoil. Luxembourg, the most prosperous of the decliners, has become a target of U.S. and European authorities going after tax evaders with foreign accounts.

A newfound humility

Such unruly company seems to have knocked some of the swagger out of the typical American. In a separate set of polls by Pew Research, the percentage of Americans who believe the United States “stands above all other countries” dropped from 38% in 2011 to 28% in 2014. Young Americans are least impressed with their home country, with only 15% of 18-29-year-olds saying the United States is the world’s No. 1 nation. Among seniors, 40% feel that way — but still, that's down from 50% just three years ago.

That newfound humility corresponds with an economic comedown that is looking permanent for an uncomfortably large portion of Americans. The recession that ended in 2009 ravaged the economic fortunes of many American families, with median household wealth still about 40% lower than it was before the recession. Jobs have finally started to return, but for many workers, pay is lower than it used to be. People feel they’re falling behind, and the data show they’re not imagining things. That’s a loss of economic freedom, which impacts other choices.

Many Americans seem to question the basic premise that everybody can get ahead in the so-called land of the free. A recent analysis by USA Today found living the American Dream, loosely defined, costs a typical family of four roughly $130,000 per year. That’s in a country where the median household income is only about $53,000, or less than half of what’s needed for a middle-class lifestyle.

One can quibble with USA Today’s methodology, which includes nearly $5,000 for an annual one-week vacation, $3,700 for dining out every year and thousands more for college and retirement funds. Many people live comfortably without such extras. Yet part of the American Dream (which itself has never been clearly defined) is the financial stability that comes from knowing you’ve got enough money to continually improve your living standards and handle any surprises that may pop up.

Such tangible declines in middle-class living standards represent the most important economic trend in a generation. The recovery that followed the recession and began in 2009 has been the weakest since the 1930s. A gridlocked Washington may deserve some of the blame, yet digital technology and globalization have allowed companies to locate work wherever it’s cheapest and replace employees with computers, robots and other gizmos. Americans are rightly fed up with their government but there may not be all that much Washington can do to reinvigorate an economy that still has too much debt clogging its veins.

A fresh dose of humility, ironically, may help get America back on track. Americans love to chant “We’re No. 1!” but, when asked their own opinions, they clearly believe we’re not anymore. As people complain about tough times, though, they’re also recalibrating their priorities and plotting comeback strategies. Developing an underdog mentality is a good start.

From the 'no shit Sherlock' files. Someone forgot to tell these people that lower wages by getting rid of their job was good for them. They are a better quality poor person than the poor of the past.
 

zinfamous

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The top five nations where people feel most satisfied with their freedoms are New Zealand, Australia, Cambodia, Sweden and the United Arab Emirates.
Oh, OK.
 

BadThad

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Only 79% of Americans say they’re satisfied with their freedom to choose what to do with their lives, down from 87% in 2008.

If liberalism continues to swell among the ignorant populace, the democrats will surely bring this down into the teens as the government slaves rule the voting box.
 

MongGrel

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If liberalism continues to swell among the ignorant populace, the democrats will surely bring this down into the teens as the government slaves rule the voting box.
Nice attempt, at any rate.

People are finally starting to stop being ignorant.
 

Karl Agathon

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It's super cool and trendy to be down on America. Especially among the younger 'cool kids' They have it so terrible in America.
 

zinfamous

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The United Arab Emirates is actually one of the world's top 5 richest countries. Some interesting things are happening there.

Masdar City is actually pretty sweet, although granted not as good as Detroit.

Future360.tv: Masdar City 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VFe8vsdpq4

The American Middle Class Is No Longer the World’s Richest
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/u...le-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html

Saudi Arabia is wealthy as fuck. Would you consider them "free"?

No, you wouldn't. The strictures in place among the populace in the UAB are no different in many ways--also consider that this "wealthy nation" was built entirely off of slave labor over the last 2 decades.

free my fucking ass.

Also, Uzbekistan is in the top 5 of self-reported free countries. Here's the thing, it seems that you can poll a populace of people that either tolerate outright subjugation or survive primarily on the fear of the things their government will do to them if they dissent.

I am 100% certain that under the boundaries of this polling method, the DPRNK would report as #1 on the list of "satisfied free people"....had they been allowed to be polled.
 

Angry Irishman

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This started long before Obama, no matter how much you wish it to have only started during the last 5 to 6 years.

I do not disagree. That said, Americans trust in it's government seems to be spiraling down the shitter a lot quicker these days.
 
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lsd

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I think this pic sums it all up

Pretty much applies to the boomers and all the way down to the kids today.
 

Zebo

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I've been aware for 30 years. We just masked hallowing out our economy with massive debt personal/municipal/business and deficit spending. Personal wells are dry so can't fake it anymore. Municipalities are going broke. Fed's funny money is only backstop for stock market and government even being able to support themselves. US companies have no use for American labor so go Asia to set up shop and import mass immigration to destroy wages of work they cant export. You have seen nothing yet.
 

Strk

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I take it no one has read the article? Or at least the first three paragraphs.
 

Engineer

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United States of Doom and Gloom.

Where in the world can a person who doesn't have a college degree make a 6 figure salary or attain 6 figures in a year with overtime?

That may be true but it's a declining trend (but you knew that).

*assuming it was ever a trend to begin with.
 

Genx87

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Freedom is in the eye of the beholder. All of those people in the Soviet Union were free from their capitalist overlords.
 

Londo_Jowo

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That may be true but it's a declining trend (but you knew that).

*assuming it was ever a trend to begin with.

I don't see it changing anytime in the near future for those people who work for businesses that service/overhaul equipment in the refining, oil, gas, and chemical businesses. Due to the fact there is a shortage of qualified/skilled industrial mechanics these workers will continue to make good money. I know more than a few that make between $110k to $130k a year and have been doing so since 2007/2008.
 

PokerGuy

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Since being "free" isn't defined as part of the poll, comparing the results of this poll across countries is stupid. Someone in china might rate themselves as "free" even though in reality they have no freedom, just as someone in Canada who chooses to put 24 piercings and rings in her face and then whines when they are not taken seriously and are not hired thinks they are not free.

The results of the poll are, however, useful when you look at them over time in the same country. Not surprising to see how the "me generation" doesn't feel "free" when they find that in the real world there are no participation trophies and they are not the special flower they were led to believe they were. Between that and the ever increasing march of political-correctness, it's not a surprise at all to see the US declining in that poll.
 
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