Americans Strongly Dislike Political Correctness Culture

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According to the report, 25 percent of Americans are traditional or devoted conservatives, and their views are far outside the American mainstream. Some 8 percent of Americans are progressive activists, and their views are even less typical. By contrast, the two-thirds of Americans who don’t belong to either extreme constitute an “exhausted majority.” Their members “share a sense of fatigue with our polarized national conversation, a willingness to be flexible in their political viewpoints, and a lack of voice in the national conversation.”


Most members of the “exhausted majority,” and then some, dislike political correctness. Among the general population, a full 80 percent believe that “political correctness is a problem in our country.” Even young people are uncomfortable with it, including 74 percent ages 24 to 29, and 79 percent under age 24. On this particular issue, the woke are in a clear minority across all ages.


Whites are ever so slightly less likely than average to believe that political correctness is a problem in the country: 79 percent of them share this sentiment. Instead, it is Asians (82 percent), Hispanics (87percent), and American Indians (88 percent) who are most likely to oppose political correctness.


Progressive activists are the only group that strongly backs political correctness: Only 30 percent see it as a problem.

So what does this group look like? Compared with the rest of the (nationally representative) polling sample, progressive activists are much more likely to be rich, highly educated—and white. They are nearly twice as likely as the average to make more than $100,000 a year. They are nearly three times as likely to have a postgraduate degree. And while 12 percent of the overall sample in the study is African American, only 3 percent of progressive activists are. With the exception of the small tribe of devoted conservatives, progressive activists are the most racially homogeneous group in the country.

And a political candidate who believes she is speaking for half of the population when she is actually voicing the opinions of one-fifth is likely to lose the next election.

Overall I thought this was a very interesting piece by the Atlantic, shedding some light on how a few are the polarizing debates. Given the media coverage and debates I was surprised by some of the percent breakdowns in the article

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...orities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/
 

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Did the author ask respondents to define "political correctness"?

Seriously, people don't seem to get this. I consider it "politically correct" to pretend to give a crap about veterans and to stand for the pledge of allegiance. I think those are PROBLEMS. Other, more conservative (aka stupid) people think that showing blind devotion to the military and veterans is the definition of "not being politically correct", and would tell you that the problem is liberals being politically correct and refusing to masturbate every time they see the flag or a veteran. Kaepernick, for example, is "politically correct" to these people, while sane people know he is actually politically incorrect (he lost his job!).

So we both agree the problem is political correctness, but we have opposite views of what the problem is!
 
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Seriously, people don't seem to get this. I consider it "politically correct" to pretend to give a crap about veterans and to stand for the pledge of allegiance. I think those are PROBLEMS. Other, more conservative (aka stupid) people think that showing blind devotion to the military and veterans is the definition of "not being politically correct", and would tell you that the problem is liberals being politically correct and refusing to masturbate every time they see the flag or a veteran. Kaepernick, for example, is "politically correct" to these people, while sane people know he is actually politically incorrect (he lost his job!).

So we both agree the problem is political correctness, but we have opposite views of what the problem is!
Political correctness is standing for the flag (or not standing) and not having to feel shame for not appealing to either extremist side.

It is a major problem and it is ever growing and creeping into important foundations such as freedom of speech. Just because you don't like what someone says doesnt mean it is "hate speech" and that someone should get in trouble or their event should be cancelled.
 

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Political correctness is standing for the flag (or not standing) and not having to feel shame for not appealing to either extremist side.

It is a major problem and it is ever growing and creeping into important foundations such as freedom of speech. Just because you don't like what someone says doesnt mean it is "hate speech" and that someone should get in trouble or their event should be cancelled.

My point is that OP's article doesn't really mean anything. Saying that "most people don't like political correctness" is basically saying "most people disagree with things they disagree with".
 

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Overall I thought this was a very interesting piece by the Atlantic, shedding some light on how a few are the polarizing debates. Given the media coverage and debates I was surprised by some of the percent breakdowns in the article

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...orities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/

I think this is a dumb piece because political correctness is inherently pejorative. I bet people calling others fa***** would have been viewed as political correctness 20 years ago but now it is accepted as bad.

What was ‘politically correct’ in 1990 is just normal life now.
 

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I think this is a dumb piece because political correctness is inherently pejorative. I bet people calling others fa***** would have been viewed as political correctness 20 years ago but now it is accepted as bad.

What was ‘politically correct’ in 1990 is just normal life now.

I was just going to post something similar in response to S1... To conservatives PC is not being able to call someone a f****** or a n****** without people giving your any semblance of grief over it. They HONESTLY think their 1A rights are being violated when they are called out on it... It's how fucking pathetic and how victimized this wantstobeaprotectedclass snowflakes have become... They used to be so Alpha...
 

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Did the author ask respondents to define "political correctness"?

It was defined for them in a series of questions. The link is in the article. There was a general question but then it digs down a bit more on certain topics and breaks it down a bit more between 'in America' and 'when I'm with people like me'
 
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It was defined for them in a series of questions. The link is in the article. There was a general question but then it digs down a bit more on certain topics and breaks it down a bit more between 'in America' and 'when I'm with people like me'

That's how the researchers defined it for themselves, not necessarily what participants thought at all-

One obvious question is what people mean by “political correctness.” In the extended interviews and focus groups, participants made clear that they were concerned about their day-to-day ability to express themselves: They worry that a lack of familiarity with a topic, or an unthinking word choice, could lead to serious social sanctions for them. But since the survey question did not define political correctness for respondents, we cannot be sure what, exactly, the 80 percent of Americans who regard it as a problem have in mind.

It's def a pejorative for people like Limbaugh. I think it's just another right wing boogeyman for everybody else with varying degrees of buy-in.
 

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I'm not a fan of political correctness but I honestly can't think of a single instance where political correctness issue was raised that I witnessed or was involved in.

Other than in echo chambers and comedy shows, is political correctness a real issue?
 
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I'm not a fan of political correctness but I honestly can't think of a single instance where political correctness issue was raised that I witnessed or was involved in.

Other than in echo chambers and comedy shows, is political correctness a real issue?

I think it depends on where you are. In the study they talk about echo chambers so the experiences will likely vary quite a bit. Personally I've experienced some like a college pressured into taking down posters promoting stairs as a healthy, energy conscious alternative because it was 'fat shaming'. But i suspect I work in areas prone to being echo chambers
 

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I wouldn't say that PC is an issue. Some people take it to far, the internet-SJW crowd for example. And there are some people that are too sensitive in office environments. But I can't imagine working in an office that allowed people to use the n-word or opening talk about co-workers tits, etc.
 
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I wouldn't say that PC is an issue. Some people take it to far, the internet-SJW crowd for example. And there are some people that are too sensitive in office environments. But I can't imagine working in an office that allowed people to use the n-word or opening talk about co-workers tits, etc.
That's not what it is, but that is what the SJW crowd is making you perceive it as.

Exterous made a picture perfect example: a poster stating the health benefits of taking the stairs is being equated as fat shaming. Do you not see how asinine that is?
 

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That's not what it is, but that is what the SJW crowd is making you perceive it as.

Exterous made a picture perfect example: a poster stating the health benefits of taking the stairs is being equated as fat shaming. Do you not see how asinine that is?

And now, the SJW pejorative in reference to a single alleged & obviously isolated incident.
 
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And now, the SJW pejorative in reference to a single alleged & obviously isolated incident.
Dude get a grip, are you expecting a list of 5p different items researched or something? Just because it's one example doesnt mean it's the only one. I get the whole cherry picking argument, but if you're just burying your head in the sand then everything is cherry picked in your mind.
 

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Dude get a grip, are you expecting a list of 5p different items researched or something? Just because it's one example doesnt mean it's the only one. I get the whole cherry picking argument, but if you're just burying your head in the sand then everything is cherry picked in your mind.

Tell me more about these SJW's & what they represent to you.
 
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I'm not a fan of political correctness but I honestly can't think of a single instance where political correctness issue was raised that I witnessed or was involved in.

Other than in echo chambers and comedy shows, is political correctness a real issue?

No.
 

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Seriously though, other than the internet, I've never personally seen people complaining about something not being PC. I have overheard people say that now that trump was elected they can say "merry Christmas" again. But I've never heard anyone, in real life, complain about people saying "merry Christmas".

Do people do real life any more or is it pretty much the alternative reality that twitter and facebook present to them?
 

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That's not what it is, but that is what the SJW crowd is making you perceive it as.

Exterous made a picture perfect example: a poster stating the health benefits of taking the stairs is being equated as fat shaming. Do you not see how asinine that is?
If it wasn't for the PC movement of the 80s, we would still have people using the n-word in the office and openly talking about female coworkers.
 
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Tell me more about these SJW's & what they represent to you.
Since I started the SJW terminology in this thread, I'll define it for me. I am specifically talking about the social media vigilantes that attempt to ruin people's life's over bad jokes or rather minor slips.
 
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Seriously though, other than the internet, I've never personally seen people complaining about something not being PC. I have overheard people say that now that trump was elected they can say "merry Christmas" again. But I've never heard anyone, in real life, complain about people saying "merry Christmas".

Do people do real life any more or is it pretty much the alternative reality that twitter and facebook present to them?

That 'no' is a serious answer. Although, upon reflection, the most 'politically correct' people that I see these days are right wing reactionaries and they do seem to be a problem at times. <shrug>
 

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Key words are "Moderation", and "Tact".

There are sociopaths taking it to extremes on both sides. There's a time and place for everything. Twitter is not that place, and being president talking about your own people is not that time.
 
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I'm not a fan of political correctness but I honestly can't think of a single instance where political correctness issue was raised that I witnessed or was involved in.

Other than in echo chambers and comedy shows, is political correctness a real issue?
You never went to college or a University ? I should have known.
 
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