So make everyone suffer so you can stop the few? How many of those inconsiderate assholes are out there? I know I do not run into many in my life, but, if I go searching I can find them on the internet.
I'm sure you're misconstruing this somehow, or taking it out of context, because the discussion of how some groups of people are more likely to be victimized by institutionalized racism is an SJW favorite.
There was a point in society were Blacks were not seen as inherent slaves, and helped fight in the Revolutionary War. Then, society shifted. That shift was to an extreme, and became the new normal.
So what is your point?
You betcha. Biggly problem in the world for sure.
Just that normal is defined by popularity, so that saying something like 'the people are extreme' is nonsensical.
I'd counter that moving forward requires much more listening than talking from white people.The larger problem with PC culture is not people getting in trouble for what they say, though this happens and not infrequently. It's what we can't say. Like ever having a candid and honest discussion about race and gender because everyone is too afraid that something they say will be labeled racist or sexist.
Obviously some of the speech which is deterred is genuinely offensive, but not all of it. This isn't just about the n-word and other obvious slurs anymore.
I'd counter that moving forward requires much more listening than talking from white people.
But the counterpoint is when did white people ever stop talking long enough to listen?One can both listen and talk. It's how we have a national conversation.
No one likes to the told to shut up, no matter their skin color. This is why "PC" has an unsavory connotation and why it doesn't help democrats in elections.
But the counterpoint is when did white people ever stop talking long enough to listen?
I believe there are white people who are allies and do listen, but white people as a whole never stop yelling about their own oppression to listen, much less consider, the reality of people of color in America.
The media doesn't help either on this one... often even when it tries.
I don't disagree that it sucks in a strategic sense, but to me the problem is one of respect and those who refuse to even consider it towards people they see as part of an underclass, as though treating everyone like a human being comes at a cost in today's life.Certain white people need to stop yelling about their phony oppression for sure. But telling them to shut up about race and gender just makes them feel more oppressed. I know what these people are thinking, that we used to be able to speak freely and now we cannot because we have to watch everything we say. If we make an honest mistake in how we word something, we get a very pejorative label applied to us. It feels authoritarian.
I think there's a perception among white, and apparently, Hispanic, Asian and Native American voters, that the left is all about identity politics and PC. Not all of those voters are conservative. Some range from center-left to center-right.
We can debate this all day but I think it's pretty clear that it's not a good selling point for dems. In 2020, I hope we go light on the identity politics and heavy on other important policy issues.
So you don't think Nazism was an extreme because it was normal in Germany in the 1930s? Just because something is common, doesn't mean it isn't extreme.Just that normal is defined by popularity, so that saying something like 'the people are extreme' is nonsensical.
Which white people? White people are not a homogenous group, and come from a vast and diverse set of socio- economic, cultural, religious and educational backgrounds that influence how they approach any conversation on race.I'd counter that moving forward requires much more listening than talking from white people.
We can debate this all day but I think it's pretty clear that it's not a good selling point for dems
synecdocheWhich white people? White people are not a homogenous group, and come from a vast and diverse set of socio- economic, cultural, religious and educational backgrounds that influence how they approach any conversation on race.
When it is vastly Republican white people claiming victimhood at every opportunity and trying to protect their own feelings from rebuke of a society that has lost interest in their bullshit.Which is why the GOP tries to pin that label on Dems in general.
The question wasn’t disingenuous, but I appreciate the glib response, you excel at them.synecdoche
But since you're asking a disingenuous question, I'll give a glib answer: Republicans and other racist white people.
I've NEVER heard a conservative offer to bring up the topic of race to have a frank and honest discussion. Its always the left who want to deal with it and the right just bitches about it.The larger problem with PC culture is not people getting in trouble for what they say, though this happens and not infrequently. It's what we can't say. Like ever having a candid and honest discussion about race and gender because everyone is too afraid that something they say will be labeled racist or sexist.
Obviously some of the speech which is deterred is genuinely offensive, but not all of it. This isn't just about the n-word and other obvious slurs anymore.
I've NEVER heard a conservative offer to bring up the topic of race to have a frank and honest discussion. Its always the left who want to deal with it and the right just bitches about it.
I've NEVER heard a conservative offer to bring up the topic of race to have a frank and honest discussion. Its always the left who want to deal with it and the right just bitches about it.
How is PC any different really from, oh my gosh, being polite with an audience you don't know.