An Honest Man

[Jfrag Teh Foul]

Originally posted by: dderidex

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Jfrag Teh Foul

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you guys are a bunch of pricks. it makes me sick to read this crap. i hope you all lose something extremely valuable and someone doesnt return it so you can see how it feels. yes, im pulling the holier-than-thou card out here because i would have given it back unspoiled. i just hope some of you are either kidding or you would do the right thing if the situation presented itself, but i wont hold my breath.

[sarcasm]Who wants to earn an honest living?[/sarcasm]

[random prick in this thread]seriously, why work when you could just steal it?[/]

Well, I mean, YEAH. Like, *duh*.

C'mon, you think we need governments and laws because people are naturally good and kind to their fellow man or something?

Eat or be eaten. It's how the rest of the world operates, if you don't....well, sucks to be you.

As long as you can sleep at night... just don't b!tch when something bad happens to you.

 

[Azndude51]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you guys are a bunch of pricks. it makes me sick to read this crap. i hope you all lose something extremely valuable and someone doesnt return it so you can see how it feels. yes, im pulling the holier-than-thou card out here because i would have given it back unspoiled. i just hope some of you are either kidding or you would do the right thing if the situation presented itself, but i wont hold my breath.

I'm not saying I would've taken the money, but I'm sure there's some sort of insurance that will cover the lost money.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: piroroadkill
...I would have taken it...

...but I'm no asshole.

you clearly contradicted yourself. taking the money but thinking you are a good person does not mean you really are.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you guys are a bunch of pricks. it makes me sick to read this crap. i hope you all lose something extremely valuable and someone doesnt return it so you can see how it feels. yes, im pulling the holier-than-thou card out here because i would have given it back unspoiled. i just hope some of you are either kidding or you would do the right thing if the situation presented itself, but i wont hold my breath.

go ahead, hold your breathe!

so what is a patrol officer doing with a bag of money? 850K?

some people just dont know a gift from god if it came flying down from the sky and bonked them on the noggin!

btw- I would probably have given it back, you know I was raised catholic, the guilt would have been overwhelming!!

its breath, not breathe, and being religious has nothing to do with this. i am christian, but this is about morals that everyone should have, not just christians or (insert religion here).

while i applaud you for saying you would do the right thing, i still give you a :thumbsdown: for saying religion is the only reason why.

hehe wow... can you see us all from up there?

maybe the high altitude has jacked up your sarcasometer...

i already said im pulling out that card, so calling me out on it is not helping your case. no, i cant see anyone from up here except you and the other 2 people that were willing to do the right thing.

sarcasm meter was busted after reading the first few replies to this...sorry if i went overboard on you.

no problem, since you have better heatware than I then I guess I can't bust you up over it!

*hint* before you get set off I am only joking still!

so no one knows why a patrol officer had $850K in his possession? I wouldnt trust any ol regular cop on the street with that much money...

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Azndude51

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you guys are a bunch of pricks. it makes me sick to read this crap. i hope you all lose something extremely valuable and someone doesnt return it so you can see how it feels. yes, im pulling the holier-than-thou card out here because i would have given it back unspoiled. i just hope some of you are either kidding or you would do the right thing if the situation presented itself, but i wont hold my breath.

I'm not saying I would've taken the money, but I'm sure there's some sort of insurance that will cover the lost money.

another great idea. someone steal it because insurance will backup the other person, and that money came from the magic money tree in the backyard where everyone can go!

 

[Jfrag Teh Foul]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: piroroadkill
...I would have taken it...

...but I'm no asshole.

you clearly contradicted yourself. taking the money but thinking you are a good person does not mean you really are.

Agreed.

 

[CHfan4ever]

I will never be that honest!!!

 

[dderidex]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: dderidex

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Jfrag Teh Foul

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you guys are a bunch of pricks. it makes me sick to read this crap. i hope you all lose something extremely valuable and someone doesnt return it so you can see how it feels. yes, im pulling the holier-than-thou card out here because i would have given it back unspoiled. i just hope some of you are either kidding or you would do the right thing if the situation presented itself, but i wont hold my breath.

[sarcasm]Who wants to earn an honest living?[/sarcasm]

[random prick in this thread]seriously, why work when you could just steal it?[/]

Well, I mean, YEAH. Like, *duh*.

C'mon, you think we need governments and laws because people are naturally good and kind to their fellow man or something?

Eat or be eaten. It's how the rest of the world operates, if you don't....well, sucks to be you.

:roll: its eat or be eaten if you cant do it for yourself without being in a compromising situation. i dont have your attitude and ive been extremely successful in my life. being honest pays off, but i dont expect many people to believe that because they are either so cynical or spiteful that they cant believe feeling good about helping someone for nothing is a real success of character and your moral stance.

I'm not saying ALWAYS be dishonest as a matter of principle or something. Merely take the more likely to be profitable course. Sometimes that's being honest, most the time it's not.

If you tie yourself to one position or the other "on principle" you are only handicapping yourself vs those who don't.

IE., if "being honest pays off", how much moreso would it pay off "being honest unless a situation arises when it would pay off more to be dishonest"?

If you don't believe in karma/religion/afterlife, then what benefit would you get by sacrificing an opportunity presented to you?

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: OrByte

no problem, since you have better heatware than I then I guess I can't bust you up over it!

*hint* before you get set off I am only joking still!

so no one knows why a patrol officer had $850K in his possession? I wouldnt trust any ol regular cop on the street with that much money...

:laugh: at the bolded statement. :beer:

re: your question...no idea. maybe some kind of a bust? i would imagine an armored car would normally make that delivery/pickup.

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: dderidex

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Jfrag Teh Foul

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you guys are a bunch of pricks. it makes me sick to read this crap. i hope you all lose something extremely valuable and someone doesnt return it so you can see how it feels. yes, im pulling the holier-than-thou card out here because i would have given it back unspoiled. i just hope some of you are either kidding or you would do the right thing if the situation presented itself, but i wont hold my breath.

[sarcasm]Who wants to earn an honest living?[/sarcasm]

[random prick in this thread]seriously, why work when you could just steal it?[/]

Well, I mean, YEAH. Like, *duh*.

C'mon, you think we need governments and laws because people are naturally good and kind to their fellow man or something?

Eat or be eaten. It's how the rest of the world operates, if you don't....well, sucks to be you.

:roll: its eat or be eaten if you cant do it for yourself without being in a compromising situation. i dont have your attitude and ive been extremely successful in my life. being honest pays off, but i dont expect many people to believe that because they are either so cynical or spiteful that they cant believe feeling good about helping someone for nothing is a real success of character and your moral stance.

So, just out of curiousity... have you ever found a bag full of $850,000 laying in the middle of the road?

 

[Jfrag Teh Foul]

Originally posted by: dderidex

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: dderidex

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Jfrag Teh Foul

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you guys are a bunch of pricks. it makes me sick to read this crap. i hope you all lose something extremely valuable and someone doesnt return it so you can see how it feels. yes, im pulling the holier-than-thou card out here because i would have given it back unspoiled. i just hope some of you are either kidding or you would do the right thing if the situation presented itself, but i wont hold my breath.

[sarcasm]Who wants to earn an honest living?[/sarcasm]

[random prick in this thread]seriously, why work when you could just steal it?[/]

Well, I mean, YEAH. Like, *duh*.

C'mon, you think we need governments and laws because people are naturally good and kind to their fellow man or something?

Eat or be eaten. It's how the rest of the world operates, if you don't....well, sucks to be you.

:roll: its eat or be eaten if you cant do it for yourself without being in a compromising situation. i dont have your attitude and ive been extremely successful in my life. being honest pays off, but i dont expect many people to believe that because they are either so cynical or spiteful that they cant believe feeling good about helping someone for nothing is a real success of character and your moral stance.

I'm not saying ALWAYS be dishonest as a matter of principle or something. Merely take the more likely to be profitable course. Sometimes that's being honest, most the time it's not.

If you tie yourself to one position or the other "on principle" you are only handicapping yourself vs those who don't.

IE., if "being honest pays off", how much moreso would it pay off "being honest unless a situation arises when it would pay off more to be dishonest"?

If you don't believe in karma/religion/afterlife, then what benefit would you get by sacrificing an opportunity presented to you?

So what you are saying is... as long as it is good for you, fsck everybody else? Nice philosophy.

 

[LoneWolf15]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: piroroadkill
...I would have taken it...

...but I'm no asshole.

you clearly contradicted yourself. taking the money but thinking you are a good person does not mean you really are.

Quoted For Truth.

 

[Zebo]

Jazdzewski

That explains everything

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: OrByte

no problem, since you have better heatware than I then I guess I can't bust you up over it!

*hint* before you get set off I am only joking still!

so no one knows why a patrol officer had $850K in his possession? I wouldnt trust any ol regular cop on the street with that much money...

:laugh: at the bolded statement. :beer:

re: your question...no idea. maybe some kind of a bust? i would imagine an armored car would normally make that delivery/pickup.

we need a conspiracy theorist in here.

I better go run and get my tinfoil cap.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: dderidex

I'm not saying ALWAYS be dishonest as a matter of principle or something. Merely take the more likely to be profitable course. Sometimes that's being honest, most the time it's not.

If you tie yourself to one position or the other "on principle" you are only handicapping yourself vs those who don't.

IE., if "being honest pays off", how much moreso would it pay off "being honest unless a situation arises when it would pay off more to be dishonest"?

If you don't believe in karma/religion/afterlife, then what benefit would you get by sacrificing an opportunity presented to you?

so you are an "ends justify the means" type of person. i am honest because it is the right thing to do. you can talk about stealing like its no big deal because it is more profitable to you, but what if you worked your butt off for that money for YEARS of your life, and in an instant its all gone. some prick comes along, like you, and decides this is an easy way to make a living (read: stealing), so why not?

maybe you cant think outside your little box, but karma/religion/whatever have nothing to do with this. think about other people for once and maybe the light bulb will turn on.

oh, and there is no handi-capping going on if you follow a set of moral and ethical principles. it just means that when you succed it will have been from an honest approach, and that to me is worth more than the amount of money i make. i cant remember who said it, but there was some quote about being original, and it pretty much sums it up nicely.

 

[amoeba]

so dderidex, how much would it take for you to kill a man?

 

[OutHouse]

that cash would have been mine, and i would have pulled out my weber grill and burned the checks.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: amoeba
so dderidex, how much would it take for you to kill a man?

[dderidex]oh, maybe a million or so. then i could pay a lawyer enough to prove that stealing money and murdering someones father/husband/uncle is worth it for me to be profitable and take the easy way out of life.[/]

 

[Nocturnal]

Something similar like this happend in Texas just a few weeks ago. A drug dealer hid money, he burried it on a school campus. Some student found it, and all the other students just start taking the money. The school started noticing big bills floating around the school and they went to investigate. The drug dealer threatened all of the students saying he was going to kill them all if the money weren't returned. I don't think a drug dealer is going to kill 500+ students.

 

[dderidex]

Originally posted by: amoeba
so dderidex, how much would it take for you to kill a man?

How does that have anything to do with being honest about returning money or not (topic of the thread)?

I'm quite solidly of the opinion (being intensely claustrophobic and all) that no action that could POSSIBLY result in jail time has ANY monetary value.

Nonono, that's simply too risky to even consider. Not to mention the fact that death is rather on the permanent side, and likely to offend surviving relatives outside the law, forget civil authorities.

Far too much risk in MOST cases for any potential reward to be worth it.

OTOH....bounty on Bin Laden is $50 million, guaranteed no government repercussions for killing him, family disowned him already.....I dunno, $50 million for Bin Laden seems a fair enough offer.

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Something similar like this happend in Texas just a few weeks ago. A drug dealer hid money, he burried it on a school campus. Some student found it, and all the other students just start taking the money. The school started noticing big bills floating around the school and they went to investigate. The drug dealer threatened all of the students saying he was going to kill them all if the money weren't returned. I don't think a drug dealer is going to kill 500+ students.

Of all the places to stash money... he picks an area populated by hundreds of greedy kids. He deserved to lose that money.

I'm sure DudeMan's on his side though...

[DudeMan] OMG! They totally just ruined that poor drug dealer's life, he was probably saving that for his daughter's college education! You're scum! OMG why don't you just go kill some puppies? I bet you like to kill puppies don't you? I make nonsensical unrelated assumptions about people to make it look like I have a point in a discussion. I also smell bad. [/]

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: amoeba
so dderidex, how much would it take for you to kill a man?

Murders different than finders keeper losers weepers. Say you found a twenty outside 7-11. You go back inside and give to clerk to put in lost-in-found? Take to PD? Or keep? What makes this different?

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: dderidex

Originally posted by: amoeba
so dderidex, how much would it take for you to kill a man?

How does that have anything to do with being honest about returning money or not (topic of the thread)?

I'm quite solidly of the opinion (being intensely claustrophobic and all) that no action that could POSSIBLY result in jail time has ANY monetary value.

Nonono, that's simply too risky to even consider. Not to mention the fact that death is rather on the permanent side, and likely to offend surviving relatives outside the law, forget civil authorities.

Far too much risk in MOST cases for any potential reward to be worth it.

OTOH....bounty on Bin Laden is $50 million, guaranteed no government repercussions for killing him, family disowned him already.....I dunno, $50 million for Bin Laden seems a fair enough offer.

man your skull is more dense than mercury. again, you are only thinking about what would happen to YOU if you murdered someone. dont you understand that it would absolutely devastate someone if you murdered their brother/father/daughter/etc. its not all about you, even though you obviously think so.

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: amoeba
so dderidex, how much would it take for you to kill a man?

Murders different than finders keeper losers weepers. Say you found a twenty outside 7-11. You go back inside and give to clerk to put in lost-in-found? Take to PD? Or keep? What makes this different?

you are right, they are different, but dont take it out of context. read it for what dderidex is saying and it all makes sense. also, i would take it inside and give it to the clerk. what will he do with it? i have no idea, but its one step in the right direction. if he steals it, then either way it is stolen money and will not end up in the hands of the owner, but at least i tried.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Something similar like this happend in Texas just a few weeks ago. A drug dealer hid money, he burried it on a school campus. Some student found it, and all the other students just start taking the money. The school started noticing big bills floating around the school and they went to investigate. The drug dealer threatened all of the students saying he was going to kill them all if the money weren't returned. I don't think a drug dealer is going to kill 500+ students.

Of all the places to stash money... he picks an area populated by hundreds of greedy kids. He deserved to lose that money.

I'm sure DudeMan's on his side though...

[DudeMan] OMG! They totally just ruined that poor drug dealer's life, he was probably saving that for his daughter's college education! You're scum! OMG why don't you just go kill some puppies? I bet you like to kill puppies don't you? I make nonsensical unrelated assumptions about people to make it look like I have a point in a discussion. I also smell bad. [/]

why would i take the side of a drug dealer? nice try, but your attempt at pinning me in a corner failed miserably. they shouldnt have stolen the money, but he should have been smart enough to know most people will not walk away from that. or, he could have put it in a bank somewhere.

edit: you could have at least pretended to have a counter-arguement instead of saying stupid things like i smell. :roll:

 

[amoeba]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: amoeba
so dderidex, how much would it take for you to kill a man?

Murders different than finders keeper losers weepers. Say you found a twenty outside 7-11. You go back inside and give to clerk to put in lost-in-found? Take to PD? Or keep? What makes this different?

850,000 is very different than 20 dollars. the amount matters. and yes, while you aren't killing anyone, 850,000 might very well cost somebody's life.