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yhelothar

Lifer
Dec 11, 2002
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39
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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Cars CAN run on JUST electricity and electric car HAVE existed. Basically, electrically energy is converted to mechanical energy. They are just not very practical due to their mileage per charge of the battery used.
Your sarcasm meter appears to be broken too.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
33,985
3,319
126
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: tvfreakazoid
The guy that could possible changed the world was murdered. He was the guy that made cars run on "WATER". Here's the link. I think he was killed by a Government agencies. I mean imagine if this technology would of taken off. It would cripple the oil industry and anyone that has money into oil stocks and what not (bush, and other peeps i can't think of LOL). What you guys think?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800&q=water+powered+car

Here's another link
http://akamat.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/water-car-inventor-murdered/

hahahhaaaaa joke of the day...good 1...you know that is a BS about cars running on water....another urban myth exposed!!!

hahaha joke of the century.. airplanes? you know that is a BS about thousands of tons of metal floating in the air. ahahaha!!!1
:roll:

your just amazing virtualgames0 you need tot aje a huge lesson in science and history.
When the airplane was invented nobody including the scirnyific community was saying it could never happen. In fact just the opposite was true!!

Now fast forward to present day.......this concept violates so many laws of science that even the scientists say it is not possible!!

In fact it is a dream at best with nothing to shoe that it has even remotely been possible and everybody agreing it will never happen at least in this ligetime!!

Nice try but hey thats what I expected of a 13 yr old some uneducated response!!


 

iamaelephant

Diamond Member
Jul 25, 2004
3,816
1
81
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: tvfreakazoid
The guy that could possible changed the world was murdered. He was the guy that made cars run on "WATER". Here's the link. I think he was killed by a Government agencies. I mean imagine if this technology would of taken off. It would cripple the oil industry and anyone that has money into oil stocks and what not (bush, and other peeps i can't think of LOL). What you guys think?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800&q=water+powered+car

Here's another link
http://akamat.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/water-car-inventor-murdered/

hahahhaaaaa joke of the day...good 1...you know that is a BS about cars running on water....another urban myth exposed!!!

hahaha joke of the century.. airplanes? you know that is a BS about thousands of tons of metal floating in the air. ahahaha!!!1
:roll:

your just amazing virtualgames0 you need tot aje a huge lesson in science and history.
When the airplane was invented nobody including the scirnyific community was saying it could never happen. In fact just the opposite was true!!

Now fast forward to present day.......this concept violates so many laws of science that even the scientists say it is not possible!!

In fact it is a dream at best with nothing to shoe that it has even remotely been possible and everybody agreing it will never happen at least in this ligetime!!

Nice try but hey thats what I expected of a 13 yr old some uneducated response!!



I actually agree with you, but before accusing other people of being uneducated, maybe you should consider proof reading your own posts. I'm not normally a grammar Nazi but this is just ridiculous.
 

tvfreakazoid

Senior member
Dec 31, 2005
264
0
0
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: tvfreakazoid
Originally posted by: herkulease
you realize the guy died in 1998. well before Bush was president. He was still govenor then. and Oil then was dirt cheap.

anyhow the problem is that his little invention violates the first law of themodynamics.

I'll leave it at that.

But still his family is in the oil business. Here are more links. All i'm saying is that i'm sure someone high up in the government or a government agency had something to do with it. HEre are more link:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/hydrogenpowerphillipineinventor27apr06.shtml

http://akamat.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/water-car-inventor-murdered/

you really cant be serious...

Yes i'm serious. What you think the world is so peaceful. Really think about it, there's a lot of ****** that we dont know about our gov't other than what we see on TV. Even that, if a gov't doesnt' want something aired on national tv they will find a way for it not to air.
 

yhelothar

Lifer
Dec 11, 2002
18,407
39
91
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: tvfreakazoid
The guy that could possible changed the world was murdered. He was the guy that made cars run on "WATER". Here's the link. I think he was killed by a Government agencies. I mean imagine if this technology would of taken off. It would cripple the oil industry and anyone that has money into oil stocks and what not (bush, and other peeps i can't think of LOL). What you guys think?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800&q=water+powered+car

Here's another link
http://akamat.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/water-car-inventor-murdered/

hahahhaaaaa joke of the day...good 1...you know that is a BS about cars running on water....another urban myth exposed!!!

hahaha joke of the century.. airplanes? you know that is a BS about thousands of tons of metal floating in the air. ahahaha!!!1
:roll:

your just amazing virtualgames0 you need tot aje a huge lesson in science and history.
When the airplane was invented nobody including the scirnyific community was saying it could never happen. In fact just the opposite was true!!

Now fast forward to present day.......this concept violates so many laws of science that even the scientists say it is not possible!!

In fact it is a dream at best with nothing to shoe that it has even remotely been possible and everybody agreing it will never happen at least in this ligetime!!

Nice try but hey thats what I expected of a 13 yr old some uneducated response!!

Don't spew bullshit just because you know one or two buzzwords from reading this thread without even understanding the science behind it all.
If you've taken general chemistry like any educated high schooler, you'd know that reactions can be made much more efficient with catalysts. That's how plants makes energy with only carbon dioxide and water.
I'm not saying his design works either, but the concept is certainly possible if a catalyst is introduced.
But I'm still surprised you were even able to spew all that bullshit, given that you can't even type coherently. Go masturbate, kid, it's probably the only thing you do well.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
23,168
0
71
Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: herkulease
anyhow the problem is that his little invention violates the first law of thermodynamics.

I'll leave it at that.

All arguments aside, I'm not one to argue against physics. Thermodynamics isn't just a good idea, it's the law.

/thread

technically it's not a law but an observation. a repeatable observations without exception so far, but an observation nevertheless.
 

TXHokie

Platinum Member
Nov 16, 1999
2,557
173
106
While it's bogus, can you imagine the application if it's true. All guys walking around would be like walking fuel pumps. If you see some chick stranded out of gas, you can just pull over and take a whiz in the gas tank "There you go m'am".
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
41,899
2,136
126
Originally posted by: tvfreakazoid
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: tvfreakazoid
Originally posted by: herkulease
you realize the guy died in 1998. well before Bush was president. He was still govenor then. and Oil then was dirt cheap.

anyhow the problem is that his little invention violates the first law of themodynamics.

I'll leave it at that.

But still his family is in the oil business. Here are more links. All i'm saying is that i'm sure someone high up in the government or a government agency had something to do with it. HEre are more link:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/hydrogenpowerphillipineinventor27apr06.shtml

http://akamat.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/water-car-inventor-murdered/

you really cant be serious...

Yes i'm serious. What you think the world is so peaceful. Really think about it, there's a lot of ****** that we dont know about our gov't other than what we see on TV. Even that, if a gov't doesnt' want something aired on national tv they will find a way for it not to air.

People that say "the government" in their claims generally have craziness issues.
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
28,651
100
91
I'm not sure what's worse, people quickly jumping to support a conspiracy theory without the facts, or people quickly discounting a conspiracy theory without the facts.
 

Born2bwire

Diamond Member
Oct 28, 2005
9,840
6
71
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: tvfreakazoid
The guy that could possible changed the world was murdered. He was the guy that made cars run on "WATER". Here's the link. I think he was killed by a Government agencies. I mean imagine if this technology would of taken off. It would cripple the oil industry and anyone that has money into oil stocks and what not (bush, and other peeps i can't think of LOL). What you guys think?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800&q=water+powered+car

Here's another link
http://akamat.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/water-car-inventor-murdered/

hahahhaaaaa joke of the day...good 1...you know that is a BS about cars running on water....another urban myth exposed!!!

hahaha joke of the century.. airplanes? you know that is a BS about thousands of tons of metal floating in the air. ahahaha!!!1
:roll:

your just amazing virtualgames0 you need tot aje a huge lesson in science and history.
When the airplane was invented nobody including the scirnyific community was saying it could never happen. In fact just the opposite was true!!

Now fast forward to present day.......this concept violates so many laws of science that even the scientists say it is not possible!!

In fact it is a dream at best with nothing to shoe that it has even remotely been possible and everybody agreing it will never happen at least in this ligetime!!

Nice try but hey thats what I expected of a 13 yr old some uneducated response!!

Don't spew bullshit just because you know one or two buzzwords from reading this thread without even understanding the science behind it all.
If you've taken general chemistry like any educated high schooler, you'd know that reactions can be made much more efficient with catalysts. That's how plants makes energy with only carbon dioxide and water.
I'm not saying his design works either, but the concept is certainly possible if a catalyst is introduced.
But I'm still surprised you were even able to spew all that bullshit, given that you can't even type coherently. Go masturbate, kid, it's probably the only thing you do well.

Efficiency... you keep using that word, but I don't think it means what you think it means.

No matter how efficient you'd make the process, you can't have a closed system running on water. It's always a losing battle and there is no point to it. Why spend energy just so you can turn around and retrieve less energy? If cars are going to run on hydrogen, then they are going to have to carry around the hydrogen. If you're going to expend energy to remove the hydrogen from water using electricity, then you are always going to be better off just using the electricity to power your vehicle.
 

tvfreakazoid

Senior member
Dec 31, 2005
264
0
0
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: tvfreakazoid
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: tvfreakazoid
Originally posted by: herkulease
you realize the guy died in 1998. well before Bush was president. He was still govenor then. and Oil then was dirt cheap.

anyhow the problem is that his little invention violates the first law of themodynamics.

I'll leave it at that.

But still his family is in the oil business. Here are more links. All i'm saying is that i'm sure someone high up in the government or a government agency had something to do with it. HEre are more link:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/hydrogenpowerphillipineinventor27apr06.shtml

http://akamat.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/water-car-inventor-murdered/

you really cant be serious...

Yes i'm serious. What you think the world is so peaceful. Really think about it, there's a lot of ****** that we dont know about our gov't other than what we see on TV. Even that, if a gov't doesnt' want something aired on national tv they will find a way for it not to air.

People that say "the government" in their claims generally have craziness issues.

Yea ok i'm just a one crazy dude. Yea your right the government is the best. They never do anything wrong.
 

EGGO

Diamond Member
Jul 29, 2004
5,504
1
0
Listen, don't blame me. Also ignore the $500,000 I just got into my bank account from the govt.

Clearly he died of food poisoning; the chef is the one to blame. Blame the chef!
 

tvfreakazoid

Senior member
Dec 31, 2005
264
0
0
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: tvfreakazoid
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: tvfreakazoid
Originally posted by: herkulease
you realize the guy died in 1998. well before Bush was president. He was still govenor then. and Oil then was dirt cheap.

anyhow the problem is that his little invention violates the first law of themodynamics.

I'll leave it at that.

But still his family is in the oil business. Here are more links. All i'm saying is that i'm sure someone high up in the government or a government agency had something to do with it. HEre are more link:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/hydrogenpowerphillipineinventor27apr06.shtml

http://akamat.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/water-car-inventor-murdered/

you really cant be serious...

Yes i'm serious. What you think the world is so peaceful. Really think about it, there's a lot of ****** that we dont know about our gov't other than what we see on TV. Even that, if a gov't doesnt' want something aired on national tv they will find a way for it not to air.

People that say "the government" in their claims generally have craziness issues.

People think that our gov't doesn't do anything wrong are ignorant. They think bush is the best president in the history of America, Donald Rumsfield is the best secretary of defense. =)
 

Skriptures17

Member
Jan 4, 2006
106
0
0
OF course the goverment would have told us if this type of Technology was real. They are honest as can be...............

Some of you guys live on the moon.

ANd as far as you fools claiming to have greater scientific knowlegde of things known, you need to get the hell out of dodge. Oh you know how science is......Everything is a law until proved wrong.

You guys are the type of guys that probley still think the world is flat, and the center of the universe.

Oh my g_d did you guys hear........ some nut in America made a machine that can fly!!!! they call it an air plane, HAHAHAH like any of us believe that.

Stop being nay sayers.
 

Sukhoi

Elite Member
Dec 5, 1999
15,320
92
91
Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: tvfreakazoid
The guy that could possible changed the world was murdered. He was the guy that made cars run on "WATER". Here's the link. I think he was killed by a Government agencies. I mean imagine if this technology would of taken off. It would cripple the oil industry and anyone that has money into oil stocks and what not (bush, and other peeps i can't think of LOL). What you guys think?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800&q=water+powered+car

Here's another link
http://akamat.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/water-car-inventor-murdered/

hahahhaaaaa joke of the day...good 1...you know that is a BS about cars running on water....another urban myth exposed!!!

hahaha joke of the century.. airplanes? you know that is a BS about thousands of tons of metal floating in the air. ahahaha!!!1
:roll:

your just amazing virtualgames0 you need tot aje a huge lesson in science and history.
When the airplane was invented nobody including the scirnyific community was saying it could never happen. In fact just the opposite was true!!

Now fast forward to present day.......this concept violates so many laws of science that even the scientists say it is not possible!!

In fact it is a dream at best with nothing to shoe that it has even remotely been possible and everybody agreing it will never happen at least in this ligetime!!

Nice try but hey thats what I expected of a 13 yr old some uneducated response!!

Don't spew bullshit just because you know one or two buzzwords from reading this thread without even understanding the science behind it all.
If you've taken general chemistry like any educated high schooler, you'd know that reactions can be made much more efficient with catalysts. That's how plants makes energy with only carbon dioxide and water.
I'm not saying his design works either, but the concept is certainly possible if a catalyst is introduced.
But I'm still surprised you were even able to spew all that bullshit, given that you can't even type coherently. Go masturbate, kid, it's probably the only thing you do well.

Efficiency... you keep using that word, but I don't think it means what you think it means.

No matter how efficient you'd make the process, you can't have a closed system running on water. It's always a losing battle and there is no point to it. Why spend energy just so you can turn around and retrieve less energy? If cars are going to run on hydrogen, then they are going to have to carry around the hydrogen. If you're going to expend energy to remove the hydrogen from water using electricity, then you are always going to be better off just using the electricity to power your vehicle.

Exactly. It takes A + B energy to split water into H2 and O2. You get A energy back when you combust H2 and O2 into H2O. Efficiency only affects B. At 100% efficiency you still have A=A, which gets you nowhere.
 

TheWart

Diamond Member
Dec 17, 2000
5,219
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Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
If you make a car run on water, don't you think we'd just use up all of the ****** water?!


ding ding ding!

we have a winner.

Imagine conflicts over oil x 1000 when talking about remaining water sources. Do some googling on "water wars" to get an idea of how serious the problem is, and imagine sucking up exponentially more water to run cars. Not the best idea.
 

tvfreakazoid

Senior member
Dec 31, 2005
264
0
0
Originally posted by: TheWart
Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
If you make a car run on water, don't you think we'd just use up all of the ****** water?!


ding ding ding!

we have a winner.

Imagine conflicts over oil x 1000 when talking about remaining water sources. Do some googling on "water wars" to get an idea of how serious the problem is, and imagine sucking up exponentially more water to run cars. Not the best idea.

Hmm ok!
 

hiredgoons

Member
Oct 25, 2006
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Stop bumping this already. The issue here is not one of blindly trusting the government, but of someone claiming to produce energy from nowhere.
 

grrl

Diamond Member
Jun 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Wheezer

so perhaps it was not a conspiracy but someone who he owed money to or his wife who was pissed that he cost them a fortune....just a thought

Sounds more likely to me. If the government did it there wouldn't be any traces of poison. :Q

NO, don't fall for their trickery! That's all part of the conspiracy! They WANT you to think it was an individual! Remember, "Trust No One."

 

Born2bwire

Diamond Member
Oct 28, 2005
9,840
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Originally posted by: Skriptures17
Oh my g_d did you guys hear........ some nut in America made a machine that can fly!!!! they call it an air plane, HAHAHAH like any of us believe that.

Stop being nay sayers.
Stop being stupid.

Bernoulli's Principle was around for over a hundred years before heavier than air craft. There was no surprise when the Wright brothers were able to build a successful airplane in terms of physics. We're talking about the first law of thermodynamics that has been around for over 150 years. It has stood under the scrutiny from classical physics through modern quantum dynamics.

As for the whole government conspiracy, do you really think that our government, or any government for that matter, wants to be dependent upon foreign powers? To power our nation, economy, and military we have to spend billions on natural resources from countries that are often unstable and rather hostile. If Washington had the choice between self-sufficiency and giving a country millions of dollars that openly calls the US president a devil...

Hydrogen or whatever its equivalent is not the end of big oil. There still needs to be processing plants to produce the fuel, there still needs the infrastructure to transport and store it both of which the oil industry has the infrastructure and capital to create. Even if all the vehicles on the road ran on biofuel, who do you think is going to be processing and transporting that fuel? We also use oil for more than gasoline or diesel. Every plasic is derived from petroleum, as are asphalt and synthetic rubber. The next big energy and fuel source is not going to kill off the oil industry. Just like how oil did not kill coal, and coal did not kill charcoal, and etc.
 

tvfreakazoid

Senior member
Dec 31, 2005
264
0
0
Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: Skriptures17
Oh my g_d did you guys hear........ some nut in America made a machine that can fly!!!! they call it an air plane, HAHAHAH like any of us believe that.

Stop being nay sayers.
Stop being stupid.

Bernoulli's Principle was around for over a hundred years before heavier than air craft. There was no surprise when the Wright brothers were able to build a successful airplane in terms of physics. We're talking about the first law of thermodynamics that has been around for over 150 years. It has stood under the scrutiny from classical physics through modern quantum dynamics.

As for the whole government conspiracy, do you really think that our government, or any government for that matter, wants to be dependent upon foreign powers? To power our nation, economy, and military we have to spend billions on natural resources from countries that are often unstable and rather hostile. If Washington had the choice between self-sufficiency and giving a country millions of dollars that openly calls the US president a devil...

Hydrogen or whatever its equivalent is not the end of big oil. There still needs to be processing plants to produce the fuel, there still needs the infrastructure to transport and store it both of which the oil industry has the infrastructure and capital to create. Even if all the vehicles on the road ran on biofuel, who do you think is going to be processing and transporting that fuel? We also use oil for more than gasoline or diesel. Every plasic is derived from petroleum, as are asphalt and synthetic rubber. The next big energy and fuel source is not going to kill off the oil industry. Just like how oil did not kill coal, and coal did not kill charcoal, and etc.

Look I think someone had something to do with this. And who knows why this man was killed. But I wouldn't be surprised if our own gov't had something to do with it. But you can't think our gov't is soooooooo great! Unless you work in the military and your a really high ranking officer. But i'm guessing your not.
 
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