Actually it's the Hopi that are God's chosen. What kind of ignorant fool are you. It's quite amusing to see imposters invent a false diety and then claim he chose them when it was the other way round, except for the Hopi, that is. And the babies of baby killers must die. That's only fair, right?Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Mardeth
Originally posted by: dahunan
If Jesus came back he would try to counsel your people and you would probably kill him again
Maybe Jewish people didn't like Jesus because he was telling them that the Old Testament was TOO BLOODY and that there should be a new way of life.
Omg ROFLMAO hahahah LOL. Jesus was destined to die as a martyr, does it really matter who killed him? Roman soldiers did it not the jews, this reply has Hitler written all over it.
More importantly that that, the Jewish people where God's chosen, the best that humanity had to offer, as such no better could possibly be expected from any other group of people, but much worse can.
Like I said, you don't target innocent civilians and expect to be seen as right in the situation, especially not when it comes to the American people for judgment.Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Actually it's the Hopi that are God's chosen. What kind of ignorant fool are you. It's quite amusing to see imposters invent a false diety and then claim he chose them when it was the other way round, except for the Hopi, that is. And the babies of baby killers must die. That's only fair, right?Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Mardeth
Originally posted by: dahunan
If Jesus came back he would try to counsel your people and you would probably kill him again
Maybe Jewish people didn't like Jesus because he was telling them that the Old Testament was TOO BLOODY and that there should be a new way of life.
Omg ROFLMAO hahahah LOL. Jesus was destined to die as a martyr, does it really matter who killed him? Roman soldiers did it not the jews, this reply has Hitler written all over it.
More importantly that that, the Jewish people where God's chosen, the best that humanity had to offer, as such no better could possibly be expected from any other group of people, but much worse can.
There is no sucha thing as terror acts agains soldiers....IDF DOES NOT KILL PALESTINIAS - ONLY THE ONES WHO ARE COMMITING TERROR ACTS AGAINST SOLDIERS.
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Like I said, you don't target innocent civilians and expect to be seen as right in the situation, especially not when it comes to the American people for judgment.Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Actually it's the Hopi that are God's chosen. What kind of ignorant fool are you. It's quite amusing to see imposters invent a false diety and then claim he chose them when it was the other way round, except for the Hopi, that is. And the babies of baby killers must die. That's only fair, right?Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Mardeth
Originally posted by: dahunan
If Jesus came back he would try to counsel your people and you would probably kill him again
Maybe Jewish people didn't like Jesus because he was telling them that the Old Testament was TOO BLOODY and that there should be a new way of life.
Omg ROFLMAO hahahah LOL. Jesus was destined to die as a martyr, does it really matter who killed him? Roman soldiers did it not the jews, this reply has Hitler written all over it.
More importantly that that, the Jewish people where God's chosen, the best that humanity had to offer, as such no better could possibly be expected from any other group of people, but much worse can.
The Hopi most probably are, also, God's chosen people, but in this instance the Jews where the best humanity had to offer, we would all do the same if placed in the same situation, did you miss the point about how their is nothing anti-Semitic about the death of Christ?
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: nitzanw
I just want to note three things:
#1. Arab Israelis (Christians and Muslims) *can* serve in the military. I personally know several Arab Israelis who served in the military, even in fighting units.
#2. Arab Israelis *can* own land. There are certain areas which limit who can buy land there. They are not necessarily discrimantory. For example the Arab village of Natzeret in Israel bans Jews from purchasing land.
#3. The USA has not helped Israel with any war (except for the Gulf War if you count that).
Israeli Wars:
1948 - Israel faced the arab armies alone.
1956 - Israel was initially helped by France but they withdrew early from the war and left Israel to fend for itself.
1967 - Israel fought alone. USSR threatened to join the war if the USA helped Israel.
1973 - Same as 1967. The USA was unable to help Israel because of direct threats by the USSR.
In fact, Israel did not receive any US military aid for quite some time, and had to purchase planes from France (Mirage) and develop its own tanks (Merkava).
The Six-Day War, 1967
In six days during June 1967, the Israeli military devastated the air and ground forces of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan and occupied the Sinai, the Gaza Strip, the Golan Heights, the West Bank (an area west of the Jordan River), including East Jerusalem. The Six-Day War established Israel as the premier military power in the Middle East. Israel's might was a product of American money and French armaments, in addition to dedicated personnel. The war also established the idea of Israel as a U.S. strategic asset in the region.
The Strategic Relationship and Aid to Israel
The idea of a strategic relationship between the United States and Israel emerged after the Suez crisis, when the Eisenhower administration realized that both countries had an interest in containing Nasser's influence. Because the Eisenhower administration feared that the Soviets were gaining clout in some Arab countries, such a relationship was seen as useful in containing the Soviet Union as well. When John F. Kennedy became president, he abandoned an initial preference for a balance of power between Israel and the Arabs in favor of a strategic relation ship. He was the first to provide Israel with sophisticated weapons and to commit the United States to a policy of maintaining Israel's regional military superiority. In 1962 Kennedy privately told Israeli foreign minister Golda Meir that their countries were de facto allies, and shortly before his assassination, Kennedy reportedly guaranteed Israel's territorial integrity in a letter to Prime Minister Eshkol.(132)
As the U.S.-Israeli strategic relationship matured, military and economic aid increased. But that increase does not mean the earlier aid had been insignificant. According to historian Nadav Safran: "During Israel's first nineteen years of existence, the United States awarded it nearly $1.5 billion of aid in various forms, mostly outright grants of one kind or another. On a per capita basis of recipient country, this was the highest rate of American aid given to any country."(133)
During the Yom Kippur War, Kissinger ordered four ships of the Sixth Fleet to within 500 miles of Israel and initiated a UN strategy aimed at tying up the Soviets and delaying a cease-fire resolution. As he later put it, "We wanted to avoid this [cease-fire] while the attacking side was gaining territory, because it would reinforce the tendency to use the United Nations to ratify the gains of surprise attack."(150) The Israelis asked for arms, but Kissinger was reluctant to comply, believing that Israel was well armed already, that the war would be short, and therefore that a resupply would unnecessarily anger the Arabs. But Kissinger did not want to appear to desert Israel, which he thought might harden its position, so he had arms sent secretly, a policy publicly ratified by Nixon on October 9. While the airlift of equipment was still covert, U.S. planes flew directly to the Israeli troops in the occupied Sinai, a violation of Egypt's territory.(151)
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-159.html
Those arms in 1973 included much needed tanks.
Originally posted by: dahunan
If Jesus came back he would try to counsel your people and you would probably kill him again
Maybe Jewish people didn't like Jesus because he was telling them that the Old Testament was TOO BLOODY and that there should be a new way of life.
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: dahunan
If Jesus came back he would try to counsel your people and you would probably kill him again
Maybe Jewish people didn't like Jesus because he was telling them that the Old Testament was TOO BLOODY and that there should be a new way of life.
WTF are you taking about?? First of all Jews did not kill Jesus. The Romans did. Where in history do you see Jews crucifying anyone?? Get your facts straight. Jesus was a Jew. The first Christians were Jews. How can you sit here and say your religion is better than the Jewish religion? You people worship Jesus more than you do God. And how is Jesus the Mesiah? Where is your proof that Jesus was God's son? If you were a true follower of God you would believe (like the Jews) that EVERYONE is a child of God. And you wouldn't go against one of the commandments: Thou shall have no other God before me. You go against this by worshiping Jesus when you don't have any proof that he is God's "son".
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: dahunan
If Jesus came back he would try to counsel your people and you would probably kill him again
Maybe Jewish people didn't like Jesus because he was telling them that the Old Testament was TOO BLOODY and that there should be a new way of life.
WTF are you taking about?? First of all Jews did not kill Jesus. The Romans did. Where in history do you see Jews crucifying anyone?? Get your facts straight. Jesus was a Jew. The first Christians were Jews. How can you sit here and say your religion is better than the Jewish religion? You people worship Jesus more than you do God. And how is Jesus the Mesiah? Where is your proof that Jesus was God's son? If you were a true follower of God you would believe (like the Jews) that EVERYONE is a child of God. And you wouldn't go against one of the commandments: Thou shall have no other God before me. You go against this by worshiping Jesus when you don't have any proof that he is God's "son".
Whatever his manner of birth I think he died consciously so you could feel forgiven. I find that rather impressive.
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Israel's army attacks these people because they are terrorists. They strap bombs on themselves and blow up busloads of children. they brainwash their children from a young age to hate Jews and to aspire to kill them one day. Some children cannot wait to reach a certain age so they can strap a bomb on themselves and kill a Jew. Israel has ever right to defend itself just like we have the right to defend ourselves especially after 9/11. You shouldn't say something about a situation when you get all your information from the media. The media only publishes the bad whether its about Israelis or Palestinians. Don't say anything unless you have actually lived there.
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Israel's army attacks these people because they are terrorists. They strap bombs on themselves and blow up busloads of children. they brainwash their children from a young age to hate Jews and to aspire to kill them one day. Some children cannot wait to reach a certain age so they can strap a bomb on themselves and kill a Jew. Israel has ever right to defend itself just like we have the right to defend ourselves especially after 9/11. You shouldn't say something about a situation when you get all your information from the media. The media only publishes the bad whether its about Israelis or Palestinians. Don't say anything unless you have actually lived there.
Yeah!! Nobody should have said anything about apartheid in South Africa unless they lived there. Nobody should have said anything about slavery unless they were a slave, too!
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
How the hell do you know that though? Because someone wrote it down??
Nobody wrote that down. Humanity is asleep suffering from a disease, the disease of self hate. Occasionally people get free from that disease. Such people are called the awake among other things. He who is awake knows who else is also awake, a property of being awake. When you are awake there's only one thing to do, to awaken those who sleep. Such people will unite to tackle the job and form a secret school for the awakening of man. Clearly the school brought the Law and sleeping mechanical man used the law as a chain so next the school brought the son on man to free us from the law. Probably Mohamed cam to properly homogenize the two. The school is of course secret because when you're asleep you don't know what's going on. But surely you can see in the Jesus thing there was a coordinated effort by many to save humanity from sin which is really nothing more than self hate. It takes titanic faith to feel yourself forgiven, just titanic hate so it really helps if you feel the guy doing the forgiving is God, since he is anyway is a somewhat different way.
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Israel's army attacks these people because they are terrorists. They strap bombs on themselves and blow up busloads of children. they brainwash their children from a young age to hate Jews and to aspire to kill them one day. Some children cannot wait to reach a certain age so they can strap a bomb on themselves and kill a Jew. Israel has ever right to defend itself just like we have the right to defend ourselves especially after 9/11. You shouldn't say something about a situation when you get all your information from the media. The media only publishes the bad whether its about Israelis or Palestinians. Don't say anything unless you have actually lived there.
Yeah!! Nobody should have said anything about apartheid in South Africa unless they lived there. Nobody should have said anything about slavery unless they were a slave, too!
No, you can say whatever you want but that does not make it the truth. Is it wrong for the US army to be over in Afganistan fighting terrorism? That is what the Israelis do. They are fighting terrorism.
Originally posted by: Edge3D
God Bless you. Isreal DOES have the right to exist and you have the right to defend yourself from those who would target your women, children and other non-military targets.
Israel only wishes to defend itself and exist. You (as well as America) certainly has the right to exist and live without fear.
Our enemies must be destroyed.
Originally posted by: Edge3D
Israel is implemented now.
All this chatter about the past is irrelevant. The nation has the right to exist, those people have a right to life.
That is the bottom line.
Argue and take sides for murdering terrorists if you will. I'm on the side that believes Israel now has a right to exist.
Originally posted by: Edge3D
That is a sad, sad example.
Americans fought for freedom of tyranny. Islamic terrorists fight to oppress women and "Jihad" (you might have heard about this), or basically eradicating all of the West and Israel off the face of the earth and implementing a Islamic world order..
another small difference between the Islamic extremists and the American forefathers..