An observation about black people...

Jumpem

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Ok, this is a real question that popped into my mind at the mall earlier.

All of the black people that live in Africa now or are here for college are really dark, almost literally black. However, most American black people are more brown or dark tan looking. Is that because they have white in them from racial mixing over the past couple hundred years?
 

Cattlegod

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i've wondered this too I was going to make a post about it the other day. I have a feeling that when they were slaves they were raped over and over by their masters. I don't quite understand it how people in the USA call theirselves black when they are a good chunk of white.
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Ok, this is a real question that popped into my mind at the mall earlier.

All of the black people that live in Africa now or are here for college are really dark, almost literally black. However, most American black people are more brown or dark tan looking. Is that because they have white in them from racial mixing over the past couple hundred years?

I think that skin tone varies from individual to individual, and from country to county (in Africa). I don't think racial mixing accounts for most of the skin tone variation.
 

GigaCluster

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Originally posted by: Cattlegod
i've wondered this too I was going to make a post about it the other day. I have a feeling that when they were slaves they were raped over and over by their masters. I don't quite understand it how people in the USA call theirselves black when they are a good chunk of white.


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Brackis

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I would say that over time there has been adaptation of the pigments to an American climate which is different from that on the coastlines of Africa.
 

Goosemaster

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These damn americans can afford a massive contact lense that covers all of the anglo-saxon settlements.

That's why!
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: Brackis
I would say that over time there has been adaptation of the pigments to an American climate which is different from that on the coastlines of Africa.


So you think it's them adapting to a cooler climate, and not inter-racial mixing?
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: Brackis
I would say that over time there has been adaptation of the pigments to an American climate which is different from that on the coastlines of Africa.


So you think it's them adapting to a cooler climate, and not inter-racial mixing?


Why think in such a limited fashion? Hell, the food we eat also might havea lot to do with it.

EDIT:


I honestly think that blackness goes away sicne they no longer have to hide from tigers in the shadows....but whatever
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: Brackis
I would say that over time there has been adaptation of the pigments to an American climate which is different from that on the coastlines of Africa.

My guess (no backup research) is that it's a mix of this adaptation and inter-breeding.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Why think in such a limited fashion? Hell, the food we eat also might havea lot to do with it.

Because I've never thought food or climate would make a persons skin lighter. People tan, but I've never seen a dark skinned person get pale by staying away from the sun.
 

djheater

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It's all explained here

btw - just to add some fuel... Observations of this nature especially when made by white colonials has lead to genocide.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: Brackis
I would say that over time there has been adaptation of the pigments to an American climate which is different from that on the coastlines of Africa.


So you think it's them adapting to a cooler climate, and not inter-racial mixing?

Pigment change based on climate in so few generations? If so, maybe the dinosaurs were around 6k years ago

Na, sounds good, but incorrect.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: djheater
It's all explained here

btw - just to add some fuel... Observations of this nature especially when made by white colonials has lead to genocide.

Ignorance and hate has led to genocide.


BIG difference.


A simple analysis of our own origins and our features is harmless if we remain civil.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: djheater
It's all explained here

btw - just to add some fuel... Observations of this nature especially when made by white colonials has lead to genocide.

Ignorance and hate has led to genocide.


BIG difference.

Now... where are my marshmallows?
 

KarenMarie

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Originally posted by: Brackis
I would say that over time there has been adaptation of the pigments to an American climate which is different from that on the coastlines of Africa.

this is my theory... but i have not spent a lot of time thinking about it.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: djheater
It's all explained here

btw - just to add some fuel... Observations of this nature especially when made by white colonials has lead to genocide.

Ignorance and hate has led to genocide.


BIG difference.

Now... where are my marshmallows?

Bend over and I'll see if they are ready....
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: Brackis
I would say that over time there has been adaptation of the pigments to an American climate which is different from that on the coastlines of Africa.

My guess (no backup research) is that it's a mix of this adaptation and inter-breeding.

Agreed, it isn't one specific thing. There are still many blacks with very dark skin, but it has become "fashionable" for blacks to have lighter skin (look at most of the blacks who are famous on TV and in Movies)
 

xirtam

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: djheater
It's all explained here

btw - just to add some fuel... Observations of this nature especially when made by white colonials has lead to genocide.

Ignorance and hate has led to genocide.


BIG difference.


A simple analysis of our own origins and our features is harmless if we remain civil.

What if people start hating ignorance?
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: xirtam
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: djheater
It's all explained here

btw - just to add some fuel... Observations of this nature especially when made by white colonials has lead to genocide.

Ignorance and hate has led to genocide.


BIG difference.


A simple analysis of our own origins and our features is harmless if we remain civil.

What if people start hating ignorance?

Then I would start smiling more
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Originally posted by: Brackis
I would say that over time there has been adaptation of the pigments to an American climate which is different from that on the coastlines of Africa.

this is my theory... but i have not spent a lot of time thinking about it.


ridiculous. Africans have been in the U.S. for what? something like 200-400 years, that's only 16 generations at the most.
 

djheater

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The "adaptation" would have been infant mortality and deaths in labor of blacks due to rickets, which is of course more prevalent in the poor.

From a layman's perspective I sort of doubt this would have been significant in less than 300 years....

Mitochondrial genetic analysis indicates that most American blacks are a hell of a lot European.

 
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