Anand off to San Fran, seeing something special !?

[flexy]

e-phex must be right.

"Parhelia: A bright sky phenomenon...."

Makes sense !!!!

I also first thought it has to do with AMD, but this would just contradict the statement "...a company we havent seen a lot from in a while"

Matrox !!!

Anyway...also AMD has "something cooking" (yes...i cited this from Tom ...but it *may* be that AMD's news may only be important for certain people...(mobility sector ? A new AMD chipset ?)...i do NOT think that another "undisclosed" AMD "Uber-CPU" is in the making...must be something else from AMD....or maybe Tom was just exaggerating and was referring to 64bit CPUs ?????

But regarding Anands trip...almost positive he speaks of Matrox' Perhelia !


Edit: But what does Matrox do in SF ?????????? (/me looking puzzled

 

[zemus]

"It all bodes well for AMD's continued confidence in Hammer, or is there something else afoot? There's something else afoot. For some people it's going to be the equivalent of the discovery of the monolith in 2001: A Space Odysee "


I think tom is simply commenting on how it appears AMD is about to take over the x86 standard, if all goes well. Which would indeed be like discovering the monolith.

 

[socketman]

Mark my words, place your bets now. AMD is involved somehow.

We know Hammer is the next gen. So its probably involves the chipset, not the CPU. Since we always hear info about
AMD, its probably some other company that will contribute to the chipset somehow. Im leaning toward the integrated video thing. Most integrated video sucks, maybe someone can finally offer the gamers something good. With hypertransport, high quality integrated graphics is possible.

Again, i know for a FACT (read: absolutely know) that AMD sent some people to SF a few weeks back. People that do
not ever get sent anywhere where shipped out to SF. Its just a matter of how/why AMD is involved. I could milk my sources, but I seriously doubt they would talk. Ill try.

 

[Nemesis77]

<< eDRAM -> Embeded DRAM. Rendition was working on this tech when they vanished into Mircron's empire. Maybe Matrox has picked up on this? Or maybe they have gone Tile based? >>



Negative. Parhelia does not have eDRAM. Also, it's not a tile-renderer. It's mighty difficult to build good T&L unit for a tile-renderer. Parhelia is a traditional rendered. Of course, it propably will have some techniques to save bandwidth (altrough Parhelia doesn't really need to save bandwidth, it has all the bandwidth it could want ) and fill-rate.

 

[SuperSix]

Creative Labs and it's 3DLabs buyout? I hear they are planning to do 3D battle with nVidia and ATI..

 

[microAmp]

e-phex, I think you hit it on the nose, Anand likes to drop hints in his words at times and you got it. Now we just have to wait 3 weeks or so for it and maybe benchmarks.

 

[DrumminBoy]

if i only i knew the company...could be a good time to jump on their stocks.

 

[Czar]

I would say its Matrox, everything points to it.

1. Many computer site admins like Anand have been getting invitation to a special Matrox Press conference. The time of Anands trip to San Fran. fits the rumored date of the press conference.

2. "to meet with a company we haven't heard much from in a while." - This basicly says that its not AMD, we hear alot about AMD at least once a week. It cant be Trident since they have already demoed their lower power GPU.

3. "Product's like AMD's upcoming Hammer and others" - This also basicly says its not AMD because it doesnt make much sense saying that AMD is showing something new and Anand says "products like AMD's upcoming Hammer", that is comparing this one to another AMD upcoming product.

4. "With that said I'll be quiet for a few more weeks and then there will be a lot to talk about." - This fits the rumored release of the *ahemm* rumored Matrox card.

5. "If this company, that we have not heard anything exciting from in a while" (from HardOCP), fits Matrox.

6. "there are going to be quite a few folks out there in for a surprise.", fits the people who doubt the all great power of Matrox




My bet is on Matrox

 

[Adul]

I think you guys are reaching for a bit. but guess we shall see.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

"It all bodes well for AMD's continued confidence in Hammer, or is there something else afoot? There's something else afoot. For some people it's going to be the equivalent of the discovery of the monolith in 2001: A Space Odysee "

I don't know why everyone thinks this quote means that AMD has something in the works. When I read this the first time, I thought he was hinting that Intel had something else in the works mainly because he says
"It all bodes well for AMD's continued confidence in Hammer, or is there something else afoot?" AMD has been trumpeting the Hammer for awhile now, but Intel has yet to announce a competing product apart from the P4 which, according to early reports, will be blown out of the water if the Hammers reach target frequencies. The thing that struck me most about this quote is that the sentence structure implies that AMD is overly confident in the Hammer. Of course I could be completely wrong about all this .

Either way, I think Tom's quote is unrelated to what's going on in San Fran, e-phex is probably right about it being a Matrox-related product. I am sure that Electric Amish is just dying to see that it IS a revolutionary Matrox gfx card .

Whatever the product turns out to be, the company and the review sites have managed to create a nice buzz for the product.

-Ice

 

[BD231]

While I totaly see the whole matrox Parhelia thing, I still have a big feeling AMD is in this one somehow. The shere amount of expos, conventions, give-away's, and not to mention the AMD trucks/add's/billboards that I see driving around all the time, really leads me to believe AMD "has" to be in on it. And if you think about it, San Fransisco is not the best place to do something like this, L.A. or Sillicon Vally are much more tech centerd areas then SF. SF is practicly AMD's home, the fact that they have add's all over the city but lack to advertisement everywhere else is a big indicator to me. The only other place I've seen AMD billboard add's in volume is sunnyvale.

 

[Nemesis77]

<< if i only i knew the company...could be a good time to jump on their stocks. >>



Assuming that the company is listed in a stock-market

EDIT: For the first time, things are looking really great! The Anands/Kyle's trip, Parhelia, Hammer, Toms AMD-comments.... We are living in exciting times ! For a long time now, things have been rather dull in this industry.

 

[BD231]

EDIT: For the first time, things are looking really great! The Anands/Kyle's trip, Parhelia, Hammer, Toms AMD-comments.... We are living in exciting times ! For a long time now, things have been rather dull in this industry.

There it is!, it's about time we see something new and innovative

 

[Czar]

<< EDIT: For the first time, things are looking really great! The Anands/Kyle's trip, Parhelia, Hammer, Toms AMD-comments.... We are living in exciting times ! For a long time now, things have been rather dull in this industry. >>


and about time, things havent been this... promising since the begining of the 3d battle and the anouncement of the first athlon's

 

[Czar]

<<

<< a company we haven't heard much from in a while." That certainly doesn't describe AMD >>



Well, it depends on the point of view... After the release of the several models of the Athlon XP, AMD has been almost completely quiet for several months up to now. I mean, quiet on new releases, not the Hammer information revealed. Maybe it's smth new in their CPU line now... Could be, anyways. If it's Matrox showing their new Pahrelia... Well, that's boring, IMVHO. Matrox cards have never been sold or shipped en mass, you have to look to find them in stores... Well, if it's DX9 compliant with all the bells and whistles (like the HW T&L), and the price is right, I might give it a spin, but nVidia is doing a better job making video cards, IMVHO. >>


It could be AMD yes, but its unlikely.

Boring???? have you read the specs for Pahrelia???

Matrox cards never been sold or shipped in mass???? they almost own the corporate market

 

[BD231]

It could be AMD yes, but its unlikely.

The likelyness of AMD or Matrox is equal. Like Geared said, it all depends on your point of view. Matrox has never had a highend gaming card in the past, so that fact alone even's up the chances of it being AMD or Matrox.

 

[AGodspeed]

Both Tomshardware and Vanshardware have been hinting that it's AMD. Here's Tom's comment:

It all bodes well for AMD's continued confidence in Hammer, or is there something else afoot? There's something else afoot. For some people it's going to be the equivalent of the discovery of the monolith in 2001: A Space Odysee

Here's what Van said:

AMD gave detailed Mobile Athlon XP briefings Monday at WinHEC. Behind closed doors and under NDA, the chipmaker also delivered some of the most interesting and exciting news of WinHEC. AMD will publicly announce details of these confidential disclosures in the coming weeks.

Btw, anyone notice that this is all happening within the next couple weeks? Guess who's retiring in the next few weeks? Yup, AMD CEO Jerry Sanders....

Of course, it's more likely a video card, probably Matrox or 3DLabs/Creative.

Anand's "Bright Days Are Ahead" comments and Kyle from HardOCP's comments points to a video card, possibly Matrox.

Btw, notice that Kyle and Anand didn't have any coverage of WinHEC, whereas Van and Tom did go to WinHEC, which is probably why their comments differ.

 

[LukFilm]

Just so you aren't surprised, it was said that the Matrox's new card will be MORE expensive than Ti4600. So if you love $500 video cards, you have something to look forward to...

 

[acejj26]

i came up with the same hypothesis as e-phex before he did....you can see here, my thread, that i came up with the same conclusion 40 minutes before he did.......not that i'm mad or anything....but he got lots of props for coming up with the same thing i did....maybe i could get some props too

e-phex...no hard feelings....i didn't mean you saw what i wrote and then tried to pawn it off as your own

 

[Daemon_UK]

Geared:

<< but nVidia is doing a better job making video cards, IMVHO. >>



What have you been smoking lately??

Nvidia have been doing a bad job recently. If it weren't for competition, they would definately want to be putting another Geforce 3 (class) refresh to us this fall. Heres all the varients of the same chip.

Geforce 3
Geforce 3 Ti
Geforce 4 Ti
Geforce 4 Ti Ultra (if competition is weak, they'll release this next!)

Unless something comes out better, a GF4 Ultra will definately be released, and thus no new innovation for a long time!!

Hopefully Kyro III, and ATi release something in the sept/nov timeframe and force Nvidia with the next gen and not some old rehash!

I really do hope that all this news is Matrox. Heres why...

Better 2D
Better 3D (more vivid colours)
Better Dual Monitors
No refresh based on a newer chip.

Finally, who cares if it costs $500!! Remember, when the other manufactures release their offerings, surely this price will go down.. Man, Sept/Nov timeframe is going to be an excellent time to be playing U2, UT2 in all its glory.

Shame Doom3 is way off still...

 

[BD231]

acejj26

Props to your qeen wits

 

[Czar]

<< It could be AMD yes, but its unlikely.

The likelyness of AMD or Matrox is equal. Like Geared said, it all depends on your point of view. Matrox has never had a highend gaming card in the past, so that fact alone even's up the chances of it being AMD or Matrox. >>


yes they did, Matrox G400 Max, best card of its time. Then before the 3d fiasco started they had the Matrox Millenium, best card of its time.

I have them both

 

[BD231]

yes they did, Matrox G400 Max, best card of its time. Then before the 3d fiasco started they had the Matrox Millenium, best card of its time.

I have them both

I stand corrected then . Just for refrence, how long ago was that? I've been in on the whole computer thing for close to 6 years and ever since I started Matrox was never a contender in any other area than 2D.

 

[Snoop]

<< Unless something comes out better, a GF4 Ultra will definately be released, and thus no new innovation for a long time!! >>


Slow down their tiger, the innovation in the graphics card industry, namely Nvidia, has been at breakneck speeds. Why do you think ATI, 3dfx, ST micro, Trident, and Intel, have had such a hard time staying competative, turns out the only one close is ATI, which is still 6months to 1year behind nvidia.

 

[Czar]

<< yes they did, Matrox G400 Max, best card of its time. Then before the 3d fiasco started they had the Matrox Millenium, best card of its time.

I have them both

I stand corrected then . Just for refrence, how long ago was that? I've been in on the whole computer thing for close to 6 years and ever since I started Matrox was never a contender in any other area than 2D. >>

hehe, too long ago, thats why I'm sitting here with my G400 hoping this new "product" will be the next Matrox card