Anand reviews a Macintosh

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: fisher
always been mac curious but i'm a gamer, and we all know how that goes.

A little something like this?

- M4H

funny. stolen, but funny. i dunno how i missed that one.

oh, and http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb...y-dec97/apple_8-6.html to explain my fix for the uneducated. yes 150m != billions, it was a joke.

 

[Commodus]

I think that the iMac, at least, will lower in price to hit that $1000 price point soon enough - maybe within a year or so. Though Apple would be loathe to admit it, one of the reasons the iMac G5 looks the way it does is because it's considerably less expensive to make than the "iLamp" design. Heck, just the fact that you can now get a 17" display, G5, and GeForce FX 5200 in the base model is a dramatic improvement over what you could get a year ago.

Of course, as a geek my real hope is that the lower overall pricing for the iMac means that Apple now has room to lower the price on the PowerMac. If they could tolerate a degree of price overlap before (where the top-end iMac costs more than the bottom-end PowerMac), they can do so with the next PowerMac update. $1799 dual 2 GHz G5s for everyone!

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: fisher
always been mac curious but i'm a gamer, and we all know how that goes.

A little something like this?

- M4H

funny. stolen, but funny. i dunno how i missed that one.

oh, and http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb...y-dec97/apple_8-6.html to explain my fix for the uneducated. yes 150m != billions, it was a joke.

Never said it was mine, just linked to it for truth.

- M4H

 

[formulav8]

I don't know. I have never been interested in Macs and probably never will.

I think if Macs were so great they would have more than a 2-3% marketshare. That is really pathetic. And Macs marketshare has went down the past few years instead of rising. At least that is what I last read a year or so ago. Macs are very overpriced from what I have seen. Just my opinion


Jason

 

[thirdlegstump]

I have a MACK too. In fact I've owned about 7 of them.

 

[xype]

Originally posted by: formulav8
I think if Macs were so great they would have more than a 2-3% marketshare. That is really pathetic. And Macs marketshare has went down the past few years instead of rising.

Ahem. If Bentleys were so great, their marketshare would be higher, too. Heck, if Chryslers were that great, their marketshare would be greater too. I mean, it's not like people wouldn't want a Bentley over a Toyota or Kia or Honda, right?

It would be pathetic, if Apple wouldn't manage to make a profit. But they do. They must be doing something right then (catering a niche noone else does). I'm not saying they're on the same level Bentleys are, just different. And as long as some people like that, Apple will sell Macs.

Now, as for marketshare, there's a difference between, say, Japan, USA, European and worldwide marketshare. Inevitably, the worldwide marketshare will get lower and lower. Why? Because the one billion potential Indian computer users and the one billion potential Chinese computer users, along with the potential Russian and African users and to some extent South American users, can't even afford a $1000 computer. They can afford a $400 one, though. So unless Apple risks their entire company by betting on a $400 Mac which they would initially need to sell at a loss, their market share will get lower and lower. Who knows, maybe Apple will do it some day, when they have enough cash on the side, but I think it will only happen after Steve.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: fisher
always been mac curious but i'm a gamer, and we all know how that goes.

A little something like this?

- M4H

funny. stolen, but funny. i dunno how i missed that one.

oh, and http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb...y-dec97/apple_8-6.html to explain my fix for the uneducated. yes 150m != billions, it was a joke.

Never said it was mine, just linked to it for truth.

- M4H

not you that stole it. that's a gag from chasing amy, and i'm sure kevin smith got it from someone else. still funny tho.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: formulav8
I don't know. I have never been interested in Macs and probably never will.

I think if Macs were so great they would have more than a 2-3% marketshare. That is really pathetic. And Macs marketshare has went down the past few years instead of rising. At least that is what I last read a year or so ago. Macs are very overpriced from what I have seen. Just my opinion


Jason

they aren't over priced. they are premium custom designed products. show me a pc with hardware and os controlled temperature zones, that will spin up fans in anticipation of heat. its the whole package. like the new imacs and their monitors that one can't really even buy. widescreen at that resolution don't come or are offered on desktops ussually. then theres the o/s. the reason its 2% is that this costs way more then 400dollar budget pc's many start off with. add habit and gaming and it just makes it worse. but now with osx and the g5's, the apples with their sweet engineering are kinda hard to laugh at. esp for those of us that don't just game. they do what needs to be done, and do it well.

 

[sandorski]

Probably never buy a Mac, but if I knew OS X would work on my system I'd buy that in a Heartbeat. That OS sounds sweet!

 

[BFG10K]

The only reason for PC's is cheapness and gaming (selection).

There are far more reasons than that.

Mac users can upgrade:

Where can I buy a boxed Mac motherboard and empty case to build a brand new system? Not to mention the price of Mac CPU upgrades sometimes cost more than an entire PC.

 

[Chaotic42]

That kind of makes me want a G5.

If only they weren't more expensive than my car.

 

[thraxes]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
That kind of makes me want a G5.

If only they weren't more expensive than my car.

Ain't that the truth

At least my iBook was cheaper than my car and I really don't regrett taking the plunge into the Apple world. Someday I will probably own a powermac as my main rig... but before then a few more AMD CPUs and Windows versions will pass through my hands.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

The only reason for PC's is cheapness and gaming (selection).

There are far more reasons than that.

Mac users can upgrade:

Where can I buy a boxed Mac motherboard and empty case to build a brand new system? Not to mention the price of Mac CPU upgrades sometimes cost more than an entire PC.

building your mac frmo scratch defeats the purpose really. ease of use. integrated design etc. might as well try building your own ipod.

 

[Gagabiji]

Originally posted by: The MACdaddy

Originally posted by: pak9rabid

TextThe only reason for PC's is cheapness and gaming (selection).

don't forget upgradability

Mac users can upgrade:
Video Cards
Hard Drives
Optical Drives
RAM
Processors
cabling
etc...

What else is there?

Whatever man... stick to the facts instead of misinformation, mkay?

Price is a big factor of me. I can't afford $500 bucks for a computer that doesn't even have many games for it, and the games it does have could run better. Anand said something like that in his review.

 

[htmlmasterdave]

Originally posted by: The MACdaddy

Originally posted by: pak9rabid

TextThe only reason for PC's is cheapness and gaming (selection).

don't forget upgradability

Mac users can upgrade:
Video Cards
Hard Drives
Optical Drives
RAM
Processors
cabling
etc...

What else is there?

Whatever man... stick to the facts instead of misinformation, mkay?

lol... see the thing with upgrading is you are supposed to save money... most of the time upgrading your mac you could just buy a brand new pc

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
That kind of makes me want a G5.

If only they weren't more expensive than my car.

Your car is worth less than 2 grand? Wait, do you drive the fiesta?

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: The MACdaddy

Originally posted by: pak9rabid

TextThe only reason for PC's is cheapness and gaming (selection).

don't forget upgradability

Mac users can upgrade:
Video Cards
Hard Drives
Optical Drives
RAM
Processors
cabling
etc...

What else is there?

Whatever man... stick to the facts instead of misinformation, mkay?

You can upgrade the processors? Somebody should tell Anand (actually, i wouldn't mind knowing where i can buy G5 processors as well).

Besides, the point wasn't that you CAN'T upgrade Macs, it's that PCs are much better for it. Not only in prices, but also availability and variety.