anands little article on XBOX360 and PS3 CPU's

[shiranai]

I'm not convinced any of this even really matters. Well, except to fanboys who like to engage in e-penis waving contests. It was stated in the article, and others have said this as well: the games sell the console.

I bought a PS2 because many of the games I wanted to play (Final Fantasy, Xenosaga, Guilty Gear, etc.) either weren't available on PC or had atrocious PC ports. I didn't buy it because I thought it would pwnz0rz my PC hardware-wise; seriously, I think only the most catastrophically blind fanboys would honestly believe that console hardware could surpass the best the PC market has to offer.

While it would be great to have a ludicrously powerful new console, the technical specs really aren't going to be of much concern in the end. The PS3 could be a mere 50% faster than the PS2, but if Xenosaga 3 is released only for PS3, I'd get the system anyway. Think of it like a necessary evil - you want to play the game, you gotta buy the system; it doesn't really matter what the system actually is.

Of course, this is only true up until the point that consoles cost so much, and show so little improvement with each iteration, that people no longer consider console gaming to be worth the money, regardless of the games that are available. I don't think we've quite reached that point yet with this new generation though.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: hasanahmad
do you have proof that anand pulled it because of NDA? until Anandtech says it was because of other reasons it is clear to assume and speculate much like the article assumes and speculates that it was a FUD article and anandtech removed it to save its ass and its reputation. There was NOTHING in the article which seems to be under NDA. It was the comment of one developer qouted and that too is unknown. Pulling article to save the source is also suspicious as it would negate the purpose of the article

You know what they say about ppl who ASSume to much?? They make an A-S-S of themselves....

Since you are not privy to what anand was told and who his contacts are you are the one ASSumming the most....

I am sorry you take this so personal like many of you console boys do....I knew it was horsesh^t when I heard all the touting of numbers then...If IBM was that good at making cpus they would have cleaned up the PC market sometime ago....Go live in your dreamland world....

 

[ZobarStyl]

Like Duvie says, we knew these numbers were BS a while ago, Anand just confirmed what we had speculated. You see, unlike console fanboys, PC hardware nuts like us have become very attuned to sniffing out 'magical' performance from the many hyped up product launches that occur every month in the PC world, whereas with new hardware coming out only every 4-5 years, console folks haven't quite caught up. We always ask, "How can product X score so high with so few pixel pipes?" or "The numbers for product Y don't make sense when looking at the transistor count." You see, manufacturers always quote numbers from biased tests, meaningless extrapolations of data, and/or just plain lies. If you can't see that the sheer simplicity and smallness of the new IBM cores makes for something less than a super-CPU, you need to work on your BS detector.

Also, like it's been said above, it really doesn't mean the games won't be nice, especially after developers work on their multithreading skills. It does, however, mean that you guys can stop claiming your XBox/PS3 'pwns' the PC.

 

[Stoneburner]

The number of console fanboys all over the net crying over this report is disturbing, it reminds me of republicans when they found out Rush Limbaugh was a crackhead. These are the people who though the xbox 360 was "9 ghz!!!"

 

[hasanahmad]

fact: Anand pulled the article. Credibility down with the article. And with no reason given its safe to assume Anandtech was saving its reputation whcih is already gone way down with the article. - HardOCP, Beyond3d, Extremetech are all talking about it. Look at arstechnica s article about anandtechs article and you will see what im talking about

 

[Stoneburner]

CORRECTED this is not the article.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: ZobarStyl
Like Duvie says, we knew these numbers were BS a while ago, Anand just confirmed what we had speculated. You see, unlike console fanboys, PC hardware nuts like us have become very attuned to sniffing out 'magical' performance from the many hyped up product launches that occur every month in the PC world, whereas with new hardware coming out only every 4-5 years, console folks haven't quite caught up. We always ask, "How can product X score so high with so few pixel pipes?" or "The numbers for product Y don't make sense when looking at the transistor count." You see, manufacturers always quote numbers from biased tests, meaningless extrapolations of data, and just/or plain lies. If you can't see that the sheer simplicity and smallness of the new IBM cores makes for something less than a super-CPU, you need to work on your BS detector.

Also, like it's been said above, it really doesn't mean the games won't be nice, especially after developers work on their multithreading skills. It does, however, mean that you guys can stop claiming your XBox/PS3 'pwns' the PC.

:thumbsup:

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
article is back up

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453

Think before you bark child.

STFU hasanahmad!!! I wont even go into that name....

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
The number of console fanboys all over the net crying over this report is disturbing, it reminds me of republicans when they found out Rush Limbaugh was a crackhead. These are the people who though the xbox 360 was "9 ghz!!!"

Or like when

the democrats were crying foul cause Clinton lied about Monica Lewisky and thought ORAL SEX was not SEXual relations...

or when

Dan Rather got cuaght with a false story about Bush at a critical time in the election and the liberal media had to try to save face...

We will leave this to OT.....

 

[hasanahmad]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
article is back up

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453

Think before you bark child.

thats not even the same article bozo

 

[linkgoron]

They changed the whole artice.

 

[Duvie]

I never saw the official one, but some of the topics like SPEs seemed verbatim...

Though AT does seem to take out a lot of his scathing opinions of it...More like a journalist post now then an actual review of consoles versus PCs....

I still smell lawyers and somebody was threatened......I am sure they have some pull with advertising monies perhaps....

 

[hasanahmad]

i smell jumped the gun by fake developer and then pulled when realised

 

[hasanahmad]

no its an old article bought up to justify this new one exists, this new one only talked CPUs.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: hasanahmad
no its an old article bought up to justify this new one exists, this new one only talked CPUs.

You lost me on this one!! Huh!!

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: hasanahmad
i smell jumped the gun by fake developer and then pulled when realised

I dont think so Anand has better contacts then that...i dont see that realistically happening...

 

[hasanahmad]

well the article which was just linked is a 7 day old article , the new article was posted 3 days ago. its NOT the same article.

 

[Stoneburner]

Hold on, the retard is right actually. That's not the same article, not sure why I was linked to it.

 

[ZobarStyl]

Do you actually have anything of relevance to the article to state, or is your correlation/causation mentality as to why the article was dropped the only possible reasoning you can think of to explain away the problems of the IBM cores?

 

[linkgoron]

If you look at that article you can see it's a week old, the other article was published yesterday.

 

[Duvie]

Well that explains it.....

 

[Stoneburner]

The new one actually discussed GPUS and CPU's and was rather glowing regarding the GPU's. It was not a scathing article at all, it was very fair. If anything anand and that other guy sounded very dissapointed.

 

[linkgoron]

Isn't the "new" one a week old?

 

[Stoneburner]

no the one that was pulled, which basically said the GPU's were the console's saving grace.

 

[linkgoron]

Meh, I don't think they'll repost the other article.