Well said coomarlin. DeafRef isn't worth any of our time, he simply makes insults and little else. It's a pity DeafRef stuck his nose in, before then everybody was giving unbiased praise, mostly just glad that gfx cards weren't heading for a M$ type monopoly.
NicColt, don't forget the Rad8500/8500LE are both superior to Rad9000/9000Pro, it is just much cheaper (and therefore higher profit) for ATI to produce the Rad9000 cards. Check out the prices the 8500 cards are going for, if you think you'll be in the market for a 9000 then get an 8500 before ATI ceases production.
DZip, even an Athlon1.4ghz (no disrespect) can take advantage of anything GF4TI4200 and higher, with a noticable difference between cards. I think anybody could tell the difference between GF4TI4600 and Rad9700, about 50% faster is a lot, and that is even more with its fantastic Aniso perf, not to mention with CPU prices that XP2000+ and 2.0ghz are within everybody's reach. As usual I don't think these top cards are a good buy for anybody, they devalue far too quickly, IMHO anybody above 800mhz should get either a GF3 or Rad8500 ($90), or else above 1.2ghz a GF4TI4200 ($150). All offer fantastic perf, they'll age well, games will use their features and you don't pay the Earth for them.