Anandtech 90nm vs 130nm A64 review

klah

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http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...oc.aspx?i=2242&p=1

The new 3500+, 3200+, and 3000+ perform from 1% to 7% faster than comparable 130nm parts.
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AMD claims that their 90nm process generates less heat than the 130nm process and requires lower wattages. Of course, the heat that is generated is concentrated in a much smaller area than the larger 130nm die. We will not likely know the true impact of the 90nm shrink on heat dissipation until AMD produces their fastest CPUs in 90nm, so we decided not to run comprehensive heat tests until the faster processors were available in 90nm.
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As you can see, the 3500+ and the 3000+ both topped out at about 2.6GHz... This means that the new 90nm 3000+ overclocked an outstanding 45% with modest increases in CPU voltage.
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They will love the new 90nm chips because they can buy a 3000+ running at 1.8GHz for less than $200 and still have a good chance of reaching 2.6GHz with very little effort with the same chip. 2.6GHz is faster than any current Athlon 64, and it is, in fact, the speed that we expect from the upcoming FX55 - the new Athlon 64 top-of-the-line. It's been a while since we've seen this kind of headroom on an AMD chip, and those who were waiting for 90nm to get a magic overclocker will get in line to buy the new 90nm 3000+.




 

stickybytes

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Definetely this is the amd chip that i've been looking for. A affordable sck 939 3000+ cpu that performs favorably against the 3500+. certainly not bad for 200 bucks.
 

Mik3y

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Originally posted by: stickybytes
Definetely this is the amd chip that i've been looking for. A affordable sck 939 3000+ cpu that performs favorably against the 3500+. certainly not bad for 200 bucks.

definitely not bad at all!!! me want!!!!
 

Zebo

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If thier were some decent 939 boards out there I would already have one these chips. They were selling a one point for $165 at monarchcomputer.com and 90nm 939 @ 2600mhz = 2782Mhz 130nm 754 (ie almost impossible even on water)

As it is, now monarch, still the only vendor, got crazy high with pricing and there STILL is'nt a great 939 overclockers board...Ive swore off MSI..

= I'm waiting for both either a chaintech 754 value type board or a DFI/ASUS/ABIT all using NF4 with soundstorm2 and get proven a bit. And some more vendors to start carrying these chips so price lowers.

until then 2800NC/3100semps and DFI UT/Chaintech VNF3 is a much better deal price/performance wise.
 

rgreen83

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@Zebo, do you have any links confirming soundstorm2 in Nforce4? I thought the general consensus was that it wasnt going to happen?

I got my 939 3200+ from newegg, are they not selling them anymore? Oh and yeah, im on my second MSI K8 board and one month later, still cannot get XP installed.
 

n7

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Wow...those 90nm 939 3000+ appear to be a killer deal for OCers
 

voodoo1694

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the review failed to mention how it does 3D and video editing (encoding)... not everyone games damnit
 

rgreen83

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Id sure love to inform you all of my overclocking experience with a 90nm 3200 with a powerful watercooling setup, and just as soon as I get a MB that works I certainly will!
 

imported_Bleh

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I hope they will have a nforce4 board with agp so I can run one of those 3000+'s without selling my new gf6800.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: voodoo1694
the review failed to mention how it does 3D and video editing (encoding)... not everyone games damnit

Just look up old reviews of the A64, and at worst expect .13 performance. You're complaining about nothing.
 

stelleg151

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I would just like to note something here. I tend to look at the Wolfenstein CPU gaming benchmarks, as they seem to be pretty universal on Anandtech, and they still within reasonable range of caring 100-125 FPS compared to some of the other 300-500fps benchmarks.
So here it is, all tests done by Anandtech:

All of these are done with OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 Ram.

3200+ 1mb Cache OC'ed to 300x8(2.4) - 104 (DFI LANPARTY UT Review)
FX-53 at 2.4 w/ Ram at Highest Performance - 122
3000+ 90nm 939 OC'ed (on air) to 2.6(9x290) - 123

There you have it. The 180 dollar cpu overclocked on air(estimate for near future when retailers get in stock) beats out the 650 dollar cpu with overclocked memory. I have a funny feeling the full 90nm line will quadrouple AMD's already impressive lead over Intel.

God I want it.
 

Zebo

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I dislike overclcoking reviews that don't show a pentium equivalent in thier test. I want to know if I buy a 3.2C or E for the same price and overclock it with similar cooling how it would compare too....does'nt everybody? Reviewers really need to work these ideas in.
 

suklee

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Originally posted by: stelleg151
God I want it.

My sentiments exactly! :thumbsup:

Too bad no game that's currently out requires me to upgrade my AthlonXP...
 

SickBeast

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Nice post, stelleg151.

Keep in mind that the OC'ed 3000+ was running at the same frequency as an FX-55. That means that in many situations the two will perform nearly identically. On top of that, this is the first batch of chips! Remember the first 0.13um chips? The tbred-b stomped all over them. I wouldn't be surprised to see people hitting 3ghz on air within a few months on newer steppings.
 

ZobarStyl

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Hot damn, I was about to order a 754 3200+ and a DFI UT this week, but this may change my mind (I hate when this happens so close to the end, been waiting 2 1/2 years to upgrade!)...the only question is what mobo will give a solid overclock with the 939's? Any suggestions?

I already ordered my WC setup this week and it's on the way, I just need a chip that'll give a nice O/C...
 
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