Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Zstream
Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Heh. Two NV fans, and two who have repeatedly trolled, name called, and started trouble. Nice picks. Oh well, these forums were already going downhill.
WTF??? IIRC Apoppin has and does use both brands...he is fairly unbiased (at least in conversation's I have had with him).
I reckon both Keys and Apop are good choices for moderator's...as long as the power doesn't go to their heads
I wanted sickbeast , BFG10K , munky and some other to be mods as they are more mature and been extremely acknowledgeable gpu enthusiastic.
Apoppin will be a great mod for the forum and also he is not a Nvidia fanboy. Keys on the other hand is alright but show immaturity as he thinks hardocp review have no fault.
Aye, people who actually know what they are talking about should be mods.
If you have a difference in opinion than somebody else, that doesn't automatically make you the knowledgable one and the other without knowledge. Tuteja thinks I'm immature for having a difference in opinion, and he still needs to show us EXACTLY how H review is at fault or what was done to make AMD look bad. It's all there in black and white folks. All settings shown. My own benches tells me the GTS is either dead even, or slightly faster than a 2900XT at equal settings, so I would imagine if I turned down AA a notch on the 2900XT in the games the GTS was faster in, they would be closer to equal. Don't get me wrong, the 2900XT is a very powerful card, and I imagine with newer drivers, it will only improve.
So for you Zstream, to think that I am not knowledgable about PC hardware, is a little weird. Or was that just something you felt you needed to throw out there in the heat of the moment? You tell me.
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Hardocp orginal Aritcile
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/...wxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
Firingsquad response
http://www.firingsquad.com/har...al_world_benchmarking/
In his article he then goes on to state:
Let's just cut to the chase. You will see a lot of gaming benchmarks today that just simply lie to you. That is right, you will see frames per second numbers that are at best total BS, and at their worst a terrible representation of what difference a new Intel Core 2 processor will make in your gaming experience.
One of their assertions for why they feel their testing methods are better than the methods used by other sites is that timedemo benchmarks are ?canned? runs, and do not include physics or AI calculations. However, this assumption is simply not true. The truthful answer is that this will vary from game-to-game. Timedemos can and do involve physics and AI calculations.
This silliness though that HardOCP is somehow doing something dramatically different than other sites simply isn?t true and it needs to stop. Clearly they haven?t reinvented the wheel when it comes to benchmarking.
To claim that what they?re doing is ?real-world? testing and that what other sites is doing is ?total BS?, ?misleading?, and ?worthless? is unfair to all other websites with Core 2 reviews. Especially in light of how narrow the scope of their ?real-world? testing was, only 3 CPUs were tested, and multi-GPU performance was never touched.
If this is what hardware journalism has resorted to, we want no part of it.
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Now my mini version of hardocp style review taking result from computer base review :
I will cheery pick the games and i will tell my reader what is playable and what isn't. I will change the res rules too :
Company OF Heroes
2900XT 1600x1200 : 105.0
8800GTS 1280x1024 : 102.6
2900XT 1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF: 39.3
8800GTS 1280x1024 8xAA/16xAF: 20.7
Doom 3
8800GTS 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF: 52.2
2900XT 2560x1600 4xAA/16xAF: 60.4
Prey
8800GTS 1280x1024 8xAA/16xAF : 45.3
2900XT 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF : 39.0
Rainbow Six Vegas
2900XT 1600x1200 : 45
8800GTS 1280x1024 : 39
The Chronicles OF Riddick
8800gts 1280x1024 8xAA/16xAF: : 49
2900XT 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF: : 45
In conclusion 2900XT domiants all round.
This type of review allows the editor to say anything he wants like
? The Radeon HD 2900 XT is late to the party and unfortunately is bringing with it performance that cannot compete"
Its funny when i go talk to some nvidia pr they always points me towards hardocp review and when all big monachos talk of ATI doom they always quote hardocp.
Now if you still insist on saying hardocp is reliable and thats your fav review website than i have nothing say to you anymore.