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Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
11,573
5,096
136
this is the stupidest thing i have ever heard anyone on this forum say and i have been a member for 15 years

load speed? are you fucking serious? 100 per page works fine on 3g or dial up and you are citing load speed as the reason

JFC



You do realize you're quoting the community director, right?

No profanity outside the social forums. Clean your act up.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director


While what you said is true, esquared, what JFC so tactlessly put it, the decision to restrict thread list length to 20 is misguided at best, darned condescending to those of us who've been around more than a month. It's almost as if "they" have determined members are now unable to determine for themselves how many threads/posts show because they're unable to comprehend that more posts/threads showing takes longer to load than a very short thread/post list.

It's as if our prior experience counts for nothing because "they" know better than the actual users, who are, I believe, a tad more tech savvy than most forum users. After all, this is a tech forum, is it not? It's not as if (the collective) we have no clue as to the ramifications of making that change.

Another point. For fast moving sub-forums, like P&N, the limited visibility of 20 threads or posts makes arguing/making a point rather difficult, as trying to locate a singular post amongst 197 posts, spread across 10 pages gets tedious, at best. And keeping up with threads onthat sub-forum's main page....at 20, threads will jump off and on the front page in moments, making it almost scihozphrenic in look and function.

I understand making the default 20 or whatever is chosen. But for those of us who actually utilize this forum, and are grateful for its existence, we'd honestly welcome the function of expanding the number of posts/threads that show well beyond the currently locked 20. The function exists, why not enable it?




The same rules follow here as they did in vB. You have an issue with moderation? Make an MD thread. Do not comment about mod edits in the thread.

For your information he was using profanity outside the social forums.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director
 

Dahak

Diamond Member
Mar 2, 2000
3,752
25
91
Had a few thoughts, not sure if mentioning them here is the best spot but I will anyway.

1 - an option to hide the side panel that shows, your profile, new posts etc. either as and option or a collapsible button

2 - I rather liked the old way when going to a new thread that you start at the beginning instead of the end. So like how the old forums worked where you enter the tread and there is an option to goto the first unread post in the tread
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,810
29,564
146
I'm not picking nits just to be nitpicky, but as one of (at least partial) Greek ancestry, I feel constrained to point out that the plural of "nemesis" (originally a Greek, not Latin, word) is "nemeses", not "nemesi ". (And while I'm at it, I'll also note that the historically-correct plural of "octopus" isn't "octopi", it's "octopodes". (You're welcome!) <g,d&r>

PS to TPTB: Whew! Thank you for bringing back the edit function so quickly!

appreciated. I knew nemesi was wrong, but wasn't sure of the real plural. And as a generally cephalopod-ignorant biologist, I was completely unaware of the term "octopodes"
 

DJ-phYre

Golden Member
Dec 27, 2004
1,064
3
81
So I have the edit function now, but I do not see the functionality to edit the title, only the post.
 
Dec 10, 2005
24,434
7,356
136
I changed my 'threads per page' setting to 75, yet off topic still only shows 25 threads at a time.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
78,716
417
126
tbqhwy.com
You do realize you're quoting the community director, right?

No profanity outside the social forums. Clean your act up.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director


Ive been here long enough to know exactly what I'm doing. More often then not the only way people realize they have done something stupid is to hit them in the face






If you've been here long enough, you know the thread is not the area to discuss moderation.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director
 

wpcoe

Senior member
Nov 13, 2007
586
2
81
wow, I do NOT like this new forum software at all. Things are gigantic, can only see about two one line posts at a time. Maybe there are other themes, I need to look. But thus far, not a happy camper. I realize this is most likely cheaper than vbulletin, but why not go with PHPBB or something more standardized? Maybe I am biased because I run a decently sized PHPBB forum, but I find it MUCH nicer to use than this.
Can't see how to send a private message, so posting this publicly:

@Stuka87: How do you code your signature to use a small font size?

Dang. Tried the [size=] tag before and it didn't work, now it does. Go figure...
 
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Ken g6

Programming Moderator, Elite Member
Moderator
Dec 11, 1999
16,284
3,905
75
So I have the edit function now, but I do not see the functionality to edit the title, only the post.
I think you might be able to edit the title from the list of threads, but I'm not sure what permissions regular users have.
 

Bryf50

Golden Member
Nov 11, 2006
1,429
51
91
While what you said is true, esquared, what JFC so tactlessly put it, the decision to restrict thread list length to 20 is misguided at best, darned condescending to those of us who've been around more than a month. It's almost as if "they" have determined members are now unable to determine for themselves how many threads/posts show because they're unable to comprehend that more posts/threads showing takes longer to load than a very short thread/post list.

It's as if our prior experience counts for nothing because "they" know better than the actual users, who are, I believe, a tad more tech savvy than most forum users. After all, this is a tech forum, is it not? It's not as if (the collective) we have no clue as to the ramifications of making that change.

Another point. For fast moving sub-forums, like P&N, the limited visibility of 20 threads or posts makes arguing/making a point rather difficult, as trying to locate a singular post amongst 197 posts, spread across 10 pages gets tedious, at best. And keeping up with threads onthat sub-forum's main page....at 20, threads will jump off and on the front page in moments, making it almost scihozphrenic in look and function.

I understand making the default 20 or whatever is chosen. But for those of us who actually utilize this forum, and are grateful for its existence, we'd honestly welcome the function of expanding the number of posts/threads that show well beyond the currently locked 20. The function exists, why not enable it?

They'll look at their data collection to find out what users "really" want.

Anyway, this isn't something that needs to vaguely be looked at some point in the future. This is a software regression on the same level as a bug.
 

Burpo

Diamond Member
Sep 10, 2013
4,223
473
126
We are expecting this transition to be fairly smooth with minimal problems, but if any should pop up, we are on hand to respond to and address all of them.

We&#8217;re looking forward to hearing what you think!


-AT Community Team

Epic FAIL!
 

IlllI

Diamond Member
Feb 12, 2002
4,927
10
81
well it looks generic. and it has so much unnecessary graphics and formatting that wastes space, and HUGE avatars and a bunch of other usless do-dads and 'flashy' 'modern' crap that I have little to no interest in seeing, or using, or interacting with. And the colors are bad. and basically everything is worse than it was previously. People like to change things for the sake of change, this 'new and improved' forum is a huge step backward and has really turned me off to the forum.
There is literally nothing that I like or think is an improvement over the old forum.

here is a good example. Blocking out all the unnecessary, space-wasting junk, look how small the actual ~useful~ part of the forum becomes. this is really ridiculous
 
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ElFenix

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Mar 20, 2000
102,425
8,388
126
Had a few thoughts, not sure if mentioning them here is the best spot but I will anyway.

1 - an option to hide the side panel that shows, your profile, new posts etc. either as and option or a collapsible button

2 - I rather liked the old way when going to a new thread that you start at the beginning instead of the end. So like how the old forums worked where you enter the tread and there is an option to goto the first unread post in the tread
hitting the first unread post button was always broken for me in VB
 

AnitaPeterson

Diamond Member
Apr 24, 2001
5,960
447
126
I will add my voice to the general displeasure.

When I saw the new look stoday, I couldn't believe my eyes. Too much wasted space. Harder to differentiate between actual post messages and the rest of the navigational text. Loss of navigation (no more forum quicklinks on the left side of the screen)

You have destroyed something good to make something "trendy" instead.
For what? To make everyone's avatar a circle? To add a "Like" button?

I hope your corporate overlords are happy.
 
Reactions: Burpo
Dec 10, 2005
24,434
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I will add my voice to the general displeasure.

When I saw the new look stoday, I couldn't believe my eyes. Too much wasted space. Harder to differentiate between actual post messages and the rest of the navigational text. Loss of navigation (no more forum quicklinks on the left side of the screen)

You have destroyed something good to make something "trendy" instead.
For what? To make everyone's avatar a circle? To add a "Like" button?

I hope your corporate overlords are happy.
Jeez... everyone's getting their nickers in a twist because of the lack of instant perfection and inability to read the thread. The vanilla theme was just for the rollout of the software and make sure major bugs are not present. I'm not a fan of this vanilla theme, but at least give them a chance to fix stuff before freaking out.

Plus, supposedly the back-end security is much better than the severely flawed version of VB previously running this forum.
 
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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
33,582
7,645
136
Change is never easy, especially for an old online community such as this one.
But change is life... change is necessary.

The forum software itself had to go. Did the hacking of our account information / passwords not already prove that?
This Xenforo software is different, yes, but much of it feels the same. And with minor changes to the CSS I've turned the white wall into a usable forum again. I am happy after a few tweaks, and can wait for them to release other themes. Moreover, I'm likely to release my own in due time.

The more time I spend on this forum, the more familiar I become with the fonts and spacing. The easier it is to read. Throw in a proper theme and it'll be... "perfect"? This can work, it's going to work. And it works for mobile like never before, which is a critical segment to target. There's no going back, a forum is like an application. It needs to stay up to date and work with modern hardware, software, and security.

Like that old pair of shoes with holes in them. Just let it go, and join your community with the new pair.
 

EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
21,200
9
81
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I tried a FS/FT specific search for "Surface Book" and it's redacted. I tried a general search and I'm getting returns from 2002 and 2004...WTF? Searching shouldn't be this difficult...




No profanity outside the social forums.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director
 

Slick5150

Diamond Member
Nov 10, 2001
8,760
3
81
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I tried a FS/FT specific search for "Surface Book" and it's redacted. I tried a general search and I'm getting returns from 2002 and 2004...WTF? Searching shouldn't be this difficult...

Having exact same issues. This seems really broken.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
38,751
3,068
121
I'm having fun with it myself, but have used XenForo on other forums.

It's going to evolve more obviously, the roll out wasn't too rocky.

I still wonder about the 26 robots I see on the right, do we need to purchase robot insurance ?

 

IEC

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Jun 10, 2004
14,362
5,032
136
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I tried a FS/FT specific search for "Surface Book" and it's shit. I tried a general search and I'm getting returns from 2002 and 2004...WTF? Searching shouldn't be this difficult...

Pretty sure the issue is they are reindexing about 20 years worth of threads... though I'm not sure why the indexer has to work in chronological order - it should have been an option to index the newest threads first.
 

Elixer

Lifer
May 7, 2002
10,376
762
126
Not sure I understand the issue with allowing more than 20 posts/threads to be up to 100 or whatever.
Most database queries should still be extremely quick, and, assuming the site also uses compression (gzip or...) then, there really should be no real impact on the database backend (most data is cached as well).

For layout, as was already mentioned, I find the whole right panel worthless. I rather dedicate as much space to the forum/thread in question.

For theme, yeah we will wait, doing hack now to get rid of the white, and it actually don't look that bad.
This took 2 mins.. couldn't stand the white.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,810
29,564
146
Not sure I understand the issue with allowing more than 20 posts/threads to be up to 100 or whatever.
Most database queries should still be extremely quick, and, assuming the site also uses compression (gzip or...) then, there really should be no real impact on the database backend (most data is cached as well).

For layout, as was already mentioned, I find the whole right panel worthless. I rather dedicate as much space to the forum/thread in question.

For theme, yeah we will wait, doing hack now to get rid of the white, and it actually don't look that bad.

someone suggested that the "Greater bandwidth" argument that they gave us means that "greater bandwidth = more efficient ad revenue" I don't know if that is technically true, but it makes sense to me because the reason(s) given for the limitation is patently absurd in 2016.
 

DrPizza

Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
Mar 5, 2001
49,606
166
111
www.slatebrookfarm.com
"More than 20" is a pretty broad range

More than happy to increase this; just find me a number that everybody agrees on.
Oh, for the love of God, set it at 100. If you read through threads here for the past 10 years, you'd see people who had it set at less than 100 treated with condescension. "I hate having to scroll through 4 pages to find the relevant post" "Set your posts per page to 100, noob. Everyone else is on page 1."
 
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Titillating

Assistant Community Manager
Sep 9, 2014
423
70
66
Oh, for the love of God, set it at 100. If you read through threads here for the past 10 years, you'd see people who had it set at less than 100 treated with condescension. "I hate having to scroll through 4 pages to find the relevant post" "Set your posts per page to 100, noob. Everyone else is on page 1."

Wish granted.
 
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