yeah, but now that i think about it. these 2 games are coming with the 2 newest best gaming engines ever. so i knew it would take alot of hardware to push out some frames. but i think its only fair that a person with a 2.2ghz (or equivalent amd fellas ) cpu and a top of the line gpu should get at least 100fps in 1024x768. i mean come on! when quake3 first came out, it was the best gaming engine out period. but it also came with the option to tune it down to nothing and get a lot more fps by doing so. but that's id's way of marketing at the people who do not have money, but know what to do in that case, tweak the config. i really hope half life comes with that feature, even though HAVING to tweak the config shouldnt even be a solution with the hardware we have JUST spent all our money on. what it seems like to me is, when it comes to gaming, the top gaming companies will always put something out to make the hardware makers match the leap of technology. the sad thing is, the gaming industry is jumping way too far into technology then the gpu makers, making 60fps in a regular resolution seem "amazing". think about it guys, the gpu makers have known for a long ass time that half life 2 and doom 3 were coming out. for at least 2 years. where the hell is the hardware to play the game. these marketing schemes these companies pull are so annoying and money hungry that it makes me want to stop pc gaming, my wallet cant keep up with these $300-$400 video cards that put out 60fps. its like, mean to us gamers. makes it no fun, HAVING to spend sooo much to get so little FPS!