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galego

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An 8% average gain in general, but more than a 10% increase in power consumption. Is this a step forward or backwards?

Some predicted between a 1% and a 5% gain in gaming. This Haswell is looking poor than imagined.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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4.8GHz SB ~= 4.66GHz IVB ~= 4.3GHz HW, so it is conceivable that a lot of OCed HWs will be faster (if ASUS' statement of 70% of chips achieveing 4.5GHz holds true).
 

lopri

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I think us 2500K guys are still laughing.

For real. Quite pathetic chips if you ask me. (On the condition that I didn't read the review, but just read some news pieces on my news reader - so maybe there is something that I'm missing?)
 

toyota

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An 8% average gain in general, but more than a 10% increase in power consumption. Is this a step forward or backwards?

Some predicted between a 1% and a 5% gain in gaming. This Haswell is looking poor than imagined.
I guess that is lucky for AMD though...
 

Abwx

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In principle efficency should increase notably at low power ,
for mobile usage but the figure we got from trhe DT variant
already point to less than expected efficency , it looks like
future Atoms have a better chance to go in low power design,
i expect HW to not be up to the task , that is , it will consume
much less when in sleep mode , quite usefull ; really....
 

lopri

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4.8GHz SB ~= 4.66GHz IVB ~= 4.3GHz HW, so it is conceivable that a lot of OCed HWs will be faster (if ASUS' statement of 70% of chips achieveing 4.5GHz holds true).

I would like to see a 4.30 GHz quad-core anything with higher Linpack score than I posted above.
 

Bubbleawsome

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The only thing I wish reviewers did (anand, TPU, [H]OCP) was include older CPU's, I have a 870. :|
Ah well, might get one, might not. Looks just ok.

EDIT: Let me rephrase that, I mean more like a 4770 to a 3770 to a 26(or 7)00 to a 870. 4570 to a 3570 to a 2500 to a 540. etc.
 
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Hulk

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Microsoft and Intel are trying to kill the PC market pretty hard.

Now I wonder what the hell is Intel going to do with the 14nm node shrink. It's crystal clear that temps is a huge issue that it is unable to fix.


Yeah Intel is up a creek without a paddle. AMD and others are crushing them. This Haswell failure will be the end of them no doubt.
 

Joeydubbs

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Looks like Haswell is performing as advertised, not sure what some people were expecting and why the overall disappointment...looks like my C2D days are numbered!
 

Homeles

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Yeah Intel is up a creek without a paddle. AMD and others are crushing them. This Haswell failure will be the end of them no doubt.
The desktop market is the market that matters least. Also, last I checked, AMD was trailing Intel by several years.
 

IntelUser2000

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Relevance, please. Last I seen it, 8600 GT was faster than 8800 GTX in H.264 decoding.

Relevance is that AVX2 optimized applications can be that much faster. Since Intel Burn Test(which is practically Linpack) is an FP test, that takes advantage of AVX(which is what your chip has and Nehalem doesn't hence your chip will be 2x faster here as well compared to Nehalem), same will be true with AVX2.
 
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lefty2

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An 8% average gain in general, but more than a 10% increase in power consumption. Is this a step forward or backwards?

Some predicted between a 1% and a 5% gain in gaming. This Haswell is looking poor than imagined.
It looks like a serious problem to me. According to Anandtech there is 11.8% increase in power consumption, with only 13% performance increase. You'd almost get the same results if you just overclocked an Ivy Bridge. What happened to the super savings from the on chip voltage regulator and the improved 22nm process?
 

Homeles

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is sarcasm really that hard to detect?
Considering there are people on this board that actually believe what Hulk stated, yes.
Relevance, please. Last I seen it, 8600 GT was faster than 8800 GTX in H.264 decoding.
It's relevant because it threatens your apparent need to justify owning a 2500K. Relax your ego, and evaluate Haswell objectively.
 

IntelUser2000

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What happened to the super savings from the on chip voltage regulator and the improved 22nm process?

Applies all in partially loaded situations, and at same TDP, which isn't what a 84W 4770K is versus a 77W 3770K.
 

Homeles

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Applies all in partially loaded situations, and at same TDP, which isn't what a 84W 4770K is versus a 77W 3770K.
Also applies to the new sleep states, which aren't supported on the desktop processors that have been reviewed. They're not really relevant at all to desktop, but in mobile, and particularly with tablets, it's a big deal.
 

lopri

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Relevance is that AVX2 optimized applications can be that much faster. Since Intel Burn Test(which is practically Linpack) is an FP test, that takes advantage of AVX, same will be true with AVX2.

Just like AMD's some secrete ingredient will outshine Intel chips in some fringe tasks? Or how about my 1045T crushing my 2500K when I run 6 encoding jobs concurrently? That kind of relevance?

Your attempt to save anything and everything Intel is pathetic just as these new chips.

Let's take it easy here, guys. You're both veteran members here.
-ViRGE
 
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ultimatebob

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Something tells me that the Core i7 4950 HQ is going to show up in the next iMac. It seems almost purpose built for it.
 
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