Anandtech member murders 2, commits suicide in Aliso Viejo

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: loic2003
Reason #739,267,822 why having so many guns about in the population is a bad thing. Would the guy and his daughter have died if this nutcase only had a knife or a bat? Far less likely.

But yeah, they're good for sport and everyone is safer with them in the population, and only stable people can buy guns...

I'm so glad I don't live over there...

That may be true in theory, but the fact is that you cannot get rid of all the guns or even most of them currently in circulation. The best thing people can do is arm themselves with guns against those with guns.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: aidanjm
I used to chat with a guy a few years ago, who had Asperger's & who was going to have a baby with his girl friend. Then the gf's family persuaded the girl to get an abortion and leave him. Which she did, without telling him. Their reasoning was that he was 'disordered' and therefore it wouldn't be a good idea to have his kid. He was devastated, to the point of considering, planning suicide. (he was most devasted about the abortion, which I couldn't necessarily relate to.) Not sure if he ever went through with it. Maybe people think that because Apserger's can appear unemoional or stiff, therefore they are lacking in emotion. Which is an absurd assuption as obviously they are as capable of deep feelings as any of us.

Good to hear you stuck with him through that rough patch in his life.

I never met him IRL, only online. There's not much you can do when e pals go awol.

 

[loic2003]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: aidanjm
I used to chat with a guy a few years ago, who had Asperger's & who was going to have a baby with his girl friend. Then the gf's family persuaded the girl to get an abortion and leave him. Which she did, without telling him. Their reasoning was that he was 'disordered' and therefore it wouldn't be a good idea to have his kid. He was devastated, to the point of considering, planning suicide. (he was most devasted about the abortion, which I couldn't necessarily relate to.) Not sure if he ever went through with it. Maybe people think that because Apserger's can appear unemoional or stiff, therefore they are lacking in emotion. Which is an absurd assuption as obviously they are as capable of deep feelings as any of us.

Good to hear you stuck with him through that rough patch in his life.

It was an online thing. I never met him in person. There's not much you can do when e pals go awol. Also, I had my own issues to deal with.

Fair play. Just been reading up on Asbergers syndrome... very interesting condition. It would seem that many computer geeks would show similar characteristics.

 

[platinumike]

It scares me how strikingly similar this guy is to me. He kind of looks like me, without the hair, same age, graduated same year,visited atot, in his profile the wrote he likes "guns,rpgs,food,pugs" i like all but rpgs and i own a pug. Not only that, the most similar thing is that he planned to be a pc parts reseller, which i started doing just last year. He obviously spent alot of time doing things by himself, same here. I was once even depressed but have seeked the Lord for help. The only thing that seems to be off is that iam loud & outgoing and am blessed however to not have his social disease, and have the ability to make friends.

-I think this is actually a sign for me to get off the internet.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Asperger's can be very difficult to live with. You see all these other people around you interacting just fine, having fun, and so you try it. But when you do, those people taunt you, and tell you that everything you're doing is wrong. You're not talking right, not moving properly - nothing about you is right. So you're ostracized, and cast out. No matter how you try, you just don't get the hang of normal social interaction. It's like there's an unspoken conversation going on right in front of you, and you don't know the rules or what's being said. And really, there is. There are many nuances between interacting people that give clues to what they're thinking. With Asperger's, those clues are totally nonexistant. The manner in which you're interacting too, your speech for example, may indicate a very rude or stiffly superior tone to most people, but as far as you're concerned, you're just trying to mimic those around you. Unbeknownst to you though, it just falls flat.
That's a quick description, really. You try your hardest to fit in with anyone, but they make fun of you for reasons you can't really even perceive. The only information you're left with is that you're not like everyone else, and for this mysterious reason, they don't like you, and there doesn't seem to be anything you can do about it. It kind of makes you pretty damn miserable, especially when you ask for help and don't see results.

Holy crap! You just described someone I know. :shocked:

He just described both me as well as my brother

 

[agnitrate]

If it makes you bleeding hearts feel better, over at SomethingAwful, they told him where to get buckshot and then laughed at his face. Check it out: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1711335

 

[nissan720]

That is sad, it is always hard to hear that someone would do this instead of really asking for help. I will say a prayer for all the familys.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Boztech
Another deluded crusader. First of all, YES, we pass the judgment of murderer on him, for commiting murder. All else is secondary. Second of all, he has as much a responsibility to society as society has to him, which does not include murdering it's citizens in cold blood.

I wish his disease onto you. Let me know when you're done walking a mile in his shoes so you can continue talking sh!t.

Disease or not, it still doesn't give anyone the right to murder innocent people.

 

[XK]

Originally posted by: agnitrate
If it makes you bleeding hearts feel better, over at SomethingAwful, they told him where to get buckshot and then laughed at his face.

We thought he was some sort of gimmick posting CS kid. He was ranting about people breaking his pumpkins and shooting at the pumpkin breaking gang with a shotgun. He was told where to get buckshot, but he was also told that people who behave like him should just stay away from guns before he gives all gun owners a bad name.

I personally thought he was someone using an alternate account to stir up some fun by teasing the regulars with outrageously ridiculous ramblings.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
I used to chat with a guy a few years ago, who had Asperger's & who was going to have a baby with his girl friend. The gf's family persuaded the girl to get an abortion and leave him. Which she did, without telling him. Their reasoning was that he was 'disordered' and therefore it wouldn't be a good idea to have his kid. He was devastated, to the point of considering, planning suicide. (he was most devasted about the abortion, which I couldn't necessarily relate to.) Not sure if he ever went through with it. Maybe people think that because Apserger's can appear unemotional or stiff, therefore they are lacking in emotion. Which is an absurd assuption as obviously they are as capable of deep feelings as any of us.

:Q
I don't think the shocked emoticon does justice...

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: agnitrate
If it makes you bleeding hearts feel better, over at SomethingAwful, they told him where to get buckshot and then laughed at his face. Check it out: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1711335

Wow, they bascially told him how to kill those people. :shocked:

 

[tami]

Originally posted by: Inappropriate4AT
I thought he was a dick, but I never would've imagined he was mentally unstable and homicidal/suicidal.

you'd be surprised at how many mentally unstable people turn to the internet since their real life interactions are severely lacking.

a lot of people also turn to the internet when their are rough bumps in their lives, and occasionally, that instability can turn to anger. worse yet, they'd do similar things that the kid did.

i recall an incident that occurred not too long ago. one of my best friends at college had a buddy who was going through a similar difficult time. the kid put up an away message: "in chaos." days later, he plunged to his death after jumping off the campus physics building. until his parents came to claim his computer and other possessions, his away message still said "in chaos."

it's not surprising really to see people turn to the internet for what they think is acceptance. however, the internet also masks emotion, and consequently, too many people go on ego trips and attack innocent people who are simply trying to fit in.

online bullying isn't going to stop. this may be a small wakeup call, but unfortunately human nature dictates that the same thing will happen again, and again, and again. it's almost the same as real-life bullying really, except that this one specifically effects our community because he was one of us, and we at AT are well aware of the online bullying that occurs around us.

in any event, don't be surprised if other individuals on AT -- or just about anywhere -- are also "unstable." if anything, though, be careful when you interact with folks, even in real life, because you never know if you may be directly or indirectly responsible for something like this.

 

[MrAnderson]

That's a sobering story...

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: tami
online bullying isn't going to stop. this may be a small wakeup call, but unfortunately human nature dictates that the same thing will happen again, and again, and again. it's almost the same as real-life bullying really, except that this one specifically effects our community because he was one of us, and we at AT are well aware of the online bullying that occurs around us.

The problem is that we have so many trolls and douchebags, it is impossible to tell who is actually seriously teetering on the edge.

The other problem is that people teetering on the edge are ticking time bombs. You can be nice to them all day long. Without professional help, they are still going to go off sooner or later.

 

[rodneyxiii]

Originally posted by: Ready

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Captain Howdy

Originally posted by: Red
Wow

Colt45 called him names =(

That's exactly what I was talking about. This board is not supportive in any way, it is just a way to test how much sh!t you can put up with. Someone should call and correct that second article. Not sure if the mods actually helped, but not finding it too likely...

Hate to say this but it's Survival of the fittest. Those who commit suicide are the weakest link....except for those Ahole attention whores that threaten to all the time. Your mother and father granted them the greatest gift of all, life. All he did was throw that away and take out two innocent people as well. Freund is nothing more than a common murderer.

I'd like to see you in real life.

Somehow I don't believe most of the nerds here could ever survive a real "survival of the fittest".

Just to add something that is totally not relevent.
I guess one can make the argument that it was Colt45 and paulney who pushed him over the edge thus resulting in the deaths of 2 innocent people!

I hope you were kidding. To say that Colt45 and paulney drove him over the edge is a bit much. There were many factors that led to this tragedy. The bottom line is the young man had some serious problems and unfortunately decided to kill.

 

[drsafety]

marked

 

[billandopus]

Took two people before he turned onto himself?

Sorry to sound callous ... but i'm not unhappy to see him "offline" permanently.

He had a choice, the other poor people did not.

 

[Patt]

for the victims & their families.
RIP tortured soul.

 

[N8Magic]

My thoughts go out to the families of the victims.

 

[TheAdvocate]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: agnitrate
If it makes you bleeding hearts feel better, over at SomethingAwful, they told him where to get buckshot and then laughed at his face. Check it out: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1711335

Wow, they bascially told him how to kill those people. :shocked:

I can't load that site from work, but from what you're saying, they need to be concerned about criminal and civil liability.

This is a tragedy. Sucks that someone could fall through the cracks in society so badly that they felt desperate enough to do this horrible deed.

 

[JASANITY]

thats crazy. i wonder if that post drove him over the edge...

 

[Continuity28]

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: agnitrate
If it makes you bleeding hearts feel better, over at SomethingAwful, they told him where to get buckshot and then laughed at his face. Check it out: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1711335

Wow, they bascially told him how to kill those people. :shocked:

I can't load that site from work, but from what you're saying, they need to be concerned about criminal and civil liability.

This is a tragedy. Sucks that someone could fall through the cracks in society so badly that they felt desperate enough to do this horrible deed.

They shouldn't have said those things... but I think you're opening a can of worms by suggesting they should look into that.

I mean what if it got to the point where you could be arrested for saying something bad to a person 40 years before they murdered someone? We should watch what we say, but people shouldn't be held accountable for something he decided to do. Right?

 

[DaShen]

It will happen on such a large forum.

It is sad though.

 

[JASANITY]

particular website? Which one?

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: Continuity28

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: agnitrate
If it makes you bleeding hearts feel better, over at SomethingAwful, they told him where to get buckshot and then laughed at his face. Check it out: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1711335

Wow, they bascially told him how to kill those people. :shocked:

I can't load that site from work, but from what you're saying, they need to be concerned about criminal and civil liability.

This is a tragedy. Sucks that someone could fall through the cracks in society so badly that they felt desperate enough to do this horrible deed.

They shouldn't have said those things... but I think you're opening a can of worms by suggesting they should look into that.

I mean what if it got to the point where you could be arrested for saying something bad to a person 40 years before they murdered someone? We should watch what we say, but people shouldn't be held accountable for something he decided to do. Right?

And he said it was to protect his family from gangs this Halloween, not to go down the street and shoot a neighbor.