Anandtech member murders 2, commits suicide in Aliso Viejo

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darkplayer

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Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: GTPoompt
wow... I am amazed by all the crap in this thread.

All you who said, "He'll burn in hell for this.". Well, Imagine that YOU were the one that egged him on to do this action during a depressed state of his where he would listen to almost anything. So you tell him to kill people and commit suicide in a moment of his weakness, where you could control him. Who would burn in hell for this then? You, who told him to commit the crime? or him, for actually commiting the crime?

People who say, "Suicide is for the weak, They don't deserve to live etc..." What if someone you cared for committed suicide, like your parents, your husband/wife etc. You calling them weak for doing that? Just eliminating the gene pool are we?

From what I can tell from the previous pages, it seems that the notion of an internet personality and a real personality are obviously true. Now, I would be suprised if someone says "Took you that long to figure that out?". I've known this for a while, the post can nearly prove it.

And if you people aren't putting up these disguises, well, I won't say



QFT, finally someone with some common sense decides to post in this thread

Reality check, the guy pulled the trigger, I didn't tell him to do it. Where was his family and friends?? Did the family warned the neihbors of their son's condition?? His support group tried to inform the parents, did they tried reporting it to the authorities?? Why don't you try telling your dribble to the family who lost their loved ones on that terrible day. Let me know how far they kicked your butt for spewing that crap to their face. Finally, where were YOU when all this happened???

Oh, It's okay if you're trying to convience yourself "had I known, maybe I could have done something" but don't try to run that "what if situation" here.
 

spamsk8r

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Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Red
Wow

Colt45 called him names =(

Yeah, like that matters. :roll:

Here, I'll call him a name: worthless trash. It's one thing to end your own life, but to take two other people with you? Despicable. It's times like these where I hope there's a hell.

QFT.
 

GTPoompt

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darkplayer, {

did I ever say that you told him to pull the trigger? I was not pointing fingers at anybody. I was just bringing up a general point. Maybe he was surfing the forum and all the derogatory comments he recieved he interpreted as "You are worthless or Your life is a waste". Now, I can't say that he was thinking of these things, but no one could be certain. I am certainly no expert on mental condition/diseases, so I am just guessing based on other people's information.

Apparently, his parents knew of the condition. Possibly they didn't realize how serious the condition was. Honestly, when most people go commit suicide, do they tell everybody they know "Hey! I'm committing suicide tomorrow! Don't be in my way or i'll take you with me!". Of course not. As for his friends, have you read the whole thread?

Why don't I tell my spewing crap to the family? Well, I'm sorry, but emotional thought takes over for rational thought in extreme situations, so anything I said they probably wouldn't listen anyway. Also, I wasn't defending him or supporting him in my post. Why would they even want to listen to my rant about why I think 50% of the people in this post are fools?

Where was I when this happened? I was not in CA I can tell you that. I'm sorry, but I am no superhero, I can't save everyone and be at a million places at once. But then again, I never said I wanted to save him. Maybe I'm a ruthless killer like him and would have helped him fix his gun so he could have continued on his rampage. Maybe I had the method to save him and the 2 people he killed from death.

What if situation? Where did i bring up a what if situation about them? I'm not saying that if something else happened they could be alive blah blah blah, because they are dead, and theres no helping that right? I'm just saying, would you feel guilty if you told someone to commit suicide and they did it?

I rarely frequent these boards, because flame wars errupt every other post, so naturally, I couldn't have egged him on to his suicide, unless somehow my existance caused him trouble.

}

As for,

He was a cold blooded murderer: Possibly, we might not be able to find out

He killed 2 people and himself: True

He killied 2 completely innocent people: Possibly, we are not sure about the innocence of these people. Maybe the girl made fun of him and told him to shoot himself, thats why he went and killed her. Maybe the father of the girl said "stay away from my daughter you worthless human," and thats why he killed him.
Note on above reason: Now, if he acted on how I had stated in the above line, then it may make it a predisposed murder. but we can't be certain

By the way, when people say, "There is no justification for murder." Well, aren't wars surely enough justification for you? Or do you think everyone who fought and killed someone in a war should be tried and sentenced?
 

DocDoo

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FWIW:

Today (11/10/05) at 5PM (est) on Fox 29 (check local listings here), the "Geraldo at Large" show will be featuring this story and going into more depth.

Anyways, I just saw a preview of it on TV and figured some of you might want to watch.
 

MrYogi

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Do you think there is no Aspergers disorder? Do you think the same way about Autism, Depression, etc.,?

Originally posted by: cruiser1338
However, I am not talking about a disease like Parkinsons or Alzheimers. Those are real, with evidence to go along with it. Prove me scientifically that there is an Aspengers disorder besides a coincidental set of symptoms. Psychologists don't count. Show me an MRI or something that has this on film that says it wasnt his fault that he killed 2 people.

 

KingofCamelot

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Originally posted by: CHOPPER GOD
See 1 month goes by, and he is forgotten. LOL

Theres a difference between forgetting and letting go. 489 posts and a month later, I think it is time to let go. We can't continue to post in here forever.
 

RaiderJ

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Best thing that guy did was off himself too. Just like the Columbine MURDERERS.
 

Cynicist

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Wish people weren't such assholes. I hope some people on this forum have learned that they can impact people's lifes just by typing. Next time just dont post..

(he was definitely unstable before, but you may have nudged him to the edge)
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Red
Wow

Colt45 called him names =(

Yeah, like that matters. :roll:

Here, I'll call him a name: worthless trash. It's one thing to end your own life, but to take two other people with you? Despicable. It's times like these where I hope there's a hell.
Apparently the HELL he was in here isn't enough for you.
I seem to remember a verse that said "Judge not, lest ye be judged."
Cops are supposed to be able to suspend their own feelings in lieu of a conviction.
As we have seen time and again, they do not. Thank you for re-inforcing the stereotype of insensitive idiot with a badge and delusions of "power."
 
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