Anandtech member murders 2, commits suicide in Aliso Viejo

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania
I have Asperger's as well, it's a horrible illness that really robs people of any fun that social interaction between other people is supposed to be. I tried to commit suicide a few years ago by electricity, but it didn't work and I spent a few months in a mental hospital.

Hope you are feeling a bit better now, Agnostos Insania :thumbsup:

 

[0roo0roo]

[CHRIS ROCK]What ever happened to crazy?[/CHRIS ROCK]

don't remember him

and f*ck him. he took out two innocents. if he had been decent he would have offed himself and stopped there. there are people far worse off than him. no sympathy at all. may he burn in hell.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Vic
he point when he acted on that decision, he lost all privilege to be considered a victim himself.

That's just your opinion.

The objective facts are that he was victimized to some extent.

 

[Cruez]

Originally posted by: southpawuni
Now you are in the Lords hands brother.

I'll be praying for this young mans soul.

Nope, he is going straight to hell for that act.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Vic
he point when he acted on that decision, he lost all privilege to be considered a victim himself.

That's just your opinion.

The objective facts are that he was victimized to some extent.

look hitler had a shady childhood too. so F@#% what!!

yes... i bring up hitler...

what ever happened to crazy.... and i don't care if he was technically sane. the second you decide that your dispair is enough to kill innocent people is when you should be considered a monster.

 

[meltdown75]

all the analysis and debate... agh

stfu please.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Vic
he point when he acted on that decision, he lost all privilege to be considered a victim himself.

That's just your opinion.

The objective facts are that he was victimized to some extent.

look hitler had a shady childhood too. so F@#% what!!

yes... i bring up hitler...

what ever happened to crazy.... and i don't care if he was technically sane. the second you decide that your dispair is enough to kill innocent people is when you should be considered a monster.

I don't see him as a monster. I see him as an ill, suicidal, angry person who killed a few people and then took his own life. I don't agree with what he did, but I do feel bad for him.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: meltdown75
all the analysis and debate... agh

stfu please.

step away from the thread
it might drive you to.... aww.. forget that.... :Q

 

[JohnCU]

What did the heat say? I tried to look it up because I think I sold something to this guy once...

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
What did the heat say? I tried to look it up because I think I sold something to this guy once...

two evaluations were added after the murders, done using the names of the murder victims. from what i remember, comments such as "buckshot was delivered to body and not delivered to front door, resulting in death. do not deal with this member" ... something to that effect.

:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

 

[Pocahontas]

... always say you're sorry to those you hurt and to let those you love know it...

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: LadyBuggy
People sure weren't nice to him here...
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1540994&enterthread=y&arctab=y
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1542174&enterthread=y&arctab=y
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1649047&enterthread=y&arctab=y

I cant help but laugh at the replys you people gave this guy.... "your a fukin idiot" "STFU n00b" hahah jeez... oh well, what can ya do, shouldnt laugh... hes dead and so are three others. I gotta say though, there was somthing seriously wrong with him, somthing more than aspergers. I got this mate and he has the same thing, hes always been an oddball but he had friends and he does normal people things etc, hes not killed anyone yet. This guy was just a bad egg....

 

[TheSlamma]

Life in the Cali suburb must have been tough :roll:

 

[plastick]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: BlackAdam
I really have no sympathy for this kid. Suicide is for the weak. Taking the innocent lives of two people with him is just pathetic. It doesn't matter to me that a disease hindered his social life, as that's thrown out the window for what he dead. Just pathetic.

Have you ever tried to put yourself in his shoes? You don't know how evil some kids can be. Imagine that all your peers bully you to the point that you think the world sucks and you don't even want to live anymore. You have no social life. You are demeaned to the point that you feel like you are the scum of the society. You're a creep. Add on a social disorder, like bi-polar or something of the sort. What do you think you would do when all the negative emotions take over your rationality? Suicide, and of course, take those who has made you want to suicide with you.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think what he did was right. But I could see why he did it. And that's not to say that the people who died has no blame at all. They pushed him to do it. And they pushed him too far. It's like a hot girl taunting a sad, deprived, 40yr old virgin to rape her. One day, he won't care about anything anymore, and he's just going to do it.

Good point man.. thats kind of what i was thinkin too =(

 

[CaptainKahuna]

Originally posted by: timswim78
http://forums.anandtech.com/tombstone.aspx?ProfileID=146024

Does anyone else find it ironic that the script that generates the profiles is called "tombstone.aspx"?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: CaptainKahuna

Originally posted by: timswim78
http://forums.anandtech.com/tombstone.aspx?ProfileID=146024

Does anyone else find it ironic that the script that generates the profiles is called "tombstone.aspx"?

what is up with that? :Q

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: her209
Wow... I hope we didn't drive him to it.

some people get pwned something fierce sometimes

Yeah, pretty sad. At the same time, getting pwned on a message board, if that's indeed what happened (I have no idea), is no excuse for killing others and then yourself. It sounds like this poor kid was off his nut, realized it to some small extent, wasn't able to get help and then went apesh1t. The saddest part is that he took innocent lives with him. On the whole, it's probably better for almost everyone involved that this kid didn't grow up to be even worse.

It's sad and unfortunate, but not everyone who needs help can get it, and not everyone who DOES get help will ever benefit from it.

Jason

 

[KK]

What a freakin moron. Thank god this moron killed himself instead of tyingup the courts.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Future Shock
And you still haven't answered MY post : he was on his treatment, wasn't he? hehehe...

FS

You didn't read enough of that other forum. He hated his doctor and was skipping his meds.
Hehehe... :roll:

Everyone who commits murder is a cold blooded murderer. A thing is always equal to itself. You really should pay attention to your own logic. Motive is irrelevant. That the murderer is insane and/or has a mental condition is a given. No sane person would murder. There is no difference. Once the murderer takes innocent life, we as a civilization can no longer allow ourselves the luxury of compassion, lest we encourage more. And sorry, I see you as having the fear, as I feel none. I see that you as having the fear of "what if it was me?" "What if I slipped my clutches?" Good. Hold that thought and maybe you never will.

A side note about mental conditions... those are quite the fallacy in themselves. That someone has a mental condition that needs treatment assumes that there is such a condition known as normal. Kindly prove that exists, as I say it doesn't.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Originally posted by: Soviet

Originally posted by: LadyBuggy
People sure weren't nice to him here...
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1540994&enterthread=y&arctab=y
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1542174&enterthread=y&arctab=y
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1649047&enterthread=y&arctab=y

I cant help but laugh at the replys you people gave this guy.... "your a fukin idiot" "STFU n00b" hahah jeez... oh well, what can ya do, shouldnt laugh... hes dead and so are three others. I gotta say though, there was somthing seriously wrong with him, somthing more than aspergers. I got this mate and he has the same thing, hes always been an oddball but he had friends and he does normal people things etc, hes not killed anyone yet. This guy was just a bad egg....

Your friend is lucky enough to have a very light case of Asperger's Syndrome then. Most cases are very introverted, and have very few, if any, social contact at all, much less friends. Asperger's Syndrome is very similar to Autism (it is actually a form of Autistic Personality Disorder) and is symptomed by marked impairments in nonverbal behaviors, failure to develop appropriate social skills, lack in appropriate enjoyment sharing, and lack of social reciprocity.
Basically what is common to see is a person with Asperger?s will give off the wrong signals (will frown even when happy) does not automatically seek out the company of others (he will just sit alone wishing someone would come talk to him) and when someone does start a conversation with him, he rarely responds, preferring to just sit there and listen, or sometimes the other way around and will not listen at all to what the other person has to say, but talks constantly. He does not understand why this leads to few friends and seems incapable of learning social behaviors. He still desires to have friends and be popular, but ends up falling into a behavioral loop, where the few times he is prompted by someone to go out and be social he ends up giving all the wrong signals, and generally being annoying to be around because he does not understand how to interact with people, and so he ends up feeling worse about himself, and reinforces the lack of social contact. You add that to someone with poor emotional control, which is common with Asperger's, and you can end up with a very unstable person. Asperger's syndrome is commonly diagnosed when a person goes to a psychologist for anger management and depression issues. It is currently believed that the suicide rate of diagnosed Asperger?s is around 65% and Asperger?s Syndrome is believed to be highly under diagnosed meaning that number could be a lot higher.

 

[CHOPPER GOD]

Originally posted by: razor2025
Give up Future Shock, some people are naturally ass hats. Worse yet, they never admit they have a problem. Vic doesn't understand that mentally ill/depressed person have different view and understanding than a normal "sane" person. The great dilemma to understanding troubled mind is that one must have first-hand experience of such illness, but how can you communicate to a "sane" person when you have a troubled mind and twisted view? It's easy to criticize another for doing something stupid, but if one were in the same situation with same condition, what would one have done? No one will know, because that person is dead, and no one can be certain as they weren't in his shoes.

I hope William finds peace and so his victim. If "Hell" is anything like I think it is, William was already suffering the day he had his condition.

If "Hell" is anything like I think it is, William was already suffering the day he had his condition.[/quote]
NOPE hell is nothing like that. It is the Pure Absence of God / having any disease would be like Christmas

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Vic
he point when he acted on that decision, he lost all privilege to be considered a victim himself.

That's just your opinion.

The objective facts are that he was victimized to some extent.

So what? The objective facts are that EVERYONE is victimized to some extent. Shall we now all kill each other and be justified doing so? :roll:

 

[SMOGZINN]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Future Shock
And you still haven't answered MY post : he was on his treatment, wasn't he? hehehe...

FS

You didn't read enough of that other forum. He hated his doctor and was skipping his meds.
Hehehe... :roll:

Everyone who commits murder is a cold blooded murderer. A thing is always equal to itself. You really should pay attention to your own logic. Motive is irrelevant. That the murderer is insane and/or has a mental condition is a given. No sane person would murder. There is no difference. Once the murderer takes innocent life, we as a civilization can no longer allow ourselves the luxury of compassion, lest we encourage more. And sorry, I see you as having the fear, as I feel none. I see that you as having the fear of "what if it was me?" "What if I slipped my clutches?" Good. Hold that thought and maybe you never will.

That is all good and well when dealing with the aftermath of a murder, but a part of what we as a society should do is try to figure out why it happened and try to prevent it from happening again. Your logic leads to, a broken bridge is a broken bridge, why is irrelevant, I can't drive on a broken bridge. That is clearly a very short view of bridge building. You need to find out why the bridge broke, so hopefully you can create a model that will not only prevent new bridges from breaking, but predict when a old bridge is in danger of breaking.

A side note about mental conditions... those are quite the fallacy in themselves. That someone has a mental condition that needs treatment assumes that there is such a condition known as normal. Kindly prove that exists, as I say it doesn't.

I point you to any bell curve, and how often they show up in social interactions, as a proof of normal. You are talking about that one perfect example of normal. That does not exist, anymore then the one perfect example of bird exists. Normal is a schema concept that includes many other concepts, and like any schema can include a large amount of variable before it breaks. Both a robin and an Emu is a bird, but a platypus is not. When looking only at birds, we can all agree that a Robin and a Mockingbird are both normal for birds, but the penguin is not. That is because the penguin stretches our concept of bird to its limits.

 

[plastick]

just checkin up on this thread since the last time i read it... now were talkin about robins, emus, platypus' and penguins?? wtf

 

[HighCalibreHooch]

Originally posted by: JME Fidelity
RRRRRAMPAGE.


UNSTOPPABLE!

He has my total respect as long as they were headshots.

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You have our total disrespect. Your account has been locked before for this kind of crap. So much for your last chance.

Good bye.

AnandTech Moderator

By what standard why this guy banned? Half the people in this thread posted only to make snarky/funny comments just like this.