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mxnerd

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Downloaded update in less 10 minutes, but when the update starts to install, it always say something went wrong. Tried 3 times. Guess have to try later or do a clean install from ISO or USB.
 

Puffnstuff

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The new update assistance tool was malfunctioning for me as well. I downloaded a new copy of it and reran it then it worked fine on my laptop. I think that the server load is high causing errors.
 
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TeknoBug

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ClassicShell needs to be on the latest version (4.30) to be able to run on the latest Windows 10, build 14393.10.

Oh great, I had an outdated version (4.2.5), got 4.3 and it's working now. Thanks.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
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With this update I'm able to turn location services back on without being greeted by some idiotic message pertaining to a city a thousand miles away from me.
 

WilliamM2

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How destructive was this update - did it reset many settings?

Changed some of my default apps back to Win10 apps, changed several power settings, had to re-install old calculator, gadgets, APC UPS, several custom registry entries. I'll probably find more. 15 minutes to update, about 30 minutes to get it back the way I wanted.

Improvements noted so far...none. Too bad you can no longer opt out of updates.
 

Eug

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I used the tool to download the 1607 ISO. Then I used the Win 10 built-in DVD burner app to burn the ISO. Took forever on my Atom 330 to install, with "forever" meaning about an hour and a half. Note that the build number is 14393.0. Only after Cumulative Update KB3176929 was installed did it move to 14393.10.

Nice to see the dual login screens are now just one.

EDIT:

BTW, after cleaning up the system files, including the old install of Windows 10 1511, I recovered something like 16 GB or so worth of space.
 
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Eug

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I just tried it on my Athlon II X3 435 with the install DVD. I kept on getting this message:

"Setup couldn't start properly, Please reboot your PC and run set up again.

So, thinking my disc or drive was borked, I tried burning the ISO again, this time on my Mac, and then using a different drive to install. Got the same error.

So, I went into Disk Cleanup and had it delete all the unnecessary system files off my C: drive. Now, the DVD install is working, ironically off the disc burned in my Mac. It seems that the error may be due to residual directories, including $Windows.~BT

EDIT:

It took about half an hour to install off DVD on this machine. It probably would have been faster off a fast USB drive, but I prefer having DVDs to store away in the cupboard. Contrast that to the Atom 330 machine above, which took three times as long. Both machines have SSD (Samsung 850 EVO in this one, and Intel 330 in the Atom).

BTW, it's interesting, but out of the original July 2015 Win 10 release, the 1511 release, and the current 1607 release, the last one has the smallest install disk, and by a large margin:

Win 10 Orig: 3988138 KB
Win 10 1511: 4354454 KB
Win 10 1607: 3545472 KB

What did they remove to make it so small?
 
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postmortemIA

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I had issue with upgrade reinstalling my gaming mouse and X-Fi drivers... with Creative drivers being mess, took me forever to figure out that it had selected "auto mute speakers if headphone is selected"

And for mouse, it installed generic driver.
 

quikah

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New touchscreen/touchpad gestures.

Supposedly 4 finger swipe will change desktops, cannot check as the touchpad on the surface 3 keyboard is ridiculously small.

2 finger left/right swipe on the touchpad (one finger on touchscreen) goes back/forward in edge.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
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I'm really liking the way the new action center works now and the message segregation is much better than before.
 

pcgeek11

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Updated and went smooth and no hick-ups. I downloaded the 1607 ISO and installed from that within Windows 10 pro.
 

SPBHM

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I updated using windows update under settings, I didn't have major problems,
but I really dislike this model of updates, basically a OS reinstall... it takes some time in mechanical hard drives, changes settings (and some drivers)... and MS is very keen on changing major features of the OS.
I can see that it will be a pain for some relatives on their slow laptops once this thing starts updating automatically.

can't say I noticed any positive changes.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
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Updated and went smooth and no hick-ups. I downloaded the 1607 ISO and installed from that within Windows 10 pro.

When I tried using the ISO on my laptop it wanted to clean install rather than update. I'm glad that I waited a few hours and tried the upgrade tool because it was able to perform the install keeping everything. The strange thing is that the 1511 install was a clean install from last month so there shouldn't have been an issue with it.
 

pcgeek11

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When I tried using the ISO on my laptop it wanted to clean install rather than update. I'm glad that I waited a few hours and tried the upgrade tool because it was able to perform the install keeping everything. The strange thing is that the 1511 install was a clean install from last month so there shouldn't have been an issue with it.

Did you boot from the ISO or run setup from the ISO inside of Windows 10?

I ran the setup from inside Windows 10 after extracting the files from the ISO.
 

WilliamM2

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The Defer Updates setting would have deferred this update, right?

For a while. But it will eventually update anyways, so might as well get it over with. And I believe the home version lacks that feature.
 

Dahak

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but I really dislike this model of updates, basically a OS reinstall... it takes some time in mechanical hard drives, changes settings (and some drivers)... and MS is very keen on changing major features of the OS.......

I believe they are looking into a way to hopefully not have to do that in the future was mentioned on Windows Weekly episode about 2-3 weeks ago
 

Eug

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I guess this is old news, but one very nice thing going from Win 7 to Win 10 is getting 1080p Netflix. I'm using the Netflix metro app.

It never mattered to me on my other Win 7 machines, since they only have 768p screens anyway, but on my main machine it makes quite a noticeable difference - 24" 1920x1200 monitor 2 feet away from me on my desk.

BTW, I'm assuming this is 1080p h.264 AVC. This machine has no 4K screen nor does it have hardware HEVC decoding. Do only HEVC-capable machines get HEVC options in Windows 10 Netflix?

Did you boot from the ISO or run setup from the ISO inside of Windows 10?

I ran the setup from inside Windows 10 after extracting the files from the ISO.

Yup. I ran the install from inside Windows 10 off a DVD, and updated just fine. But it's updating as if it's upgrading Windows 10 to Windows 10, with a complete old Windows.old directory saved. This is the same process as going from Windows 7 to Windows 10, like doing a near-new OS install. So if you're short on space, you'll want to clean that up to capture some space back.
 

pcgeek11

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I guess this is old news, but one very nice thing going from Win 7 to Win 10 is getting 1080p Netflix. I'm using the Netflix metro app.

It never mattered to me on my other Win 7 machines, since they only have 768p screens anyway, but on my main machine it makes quite a noticeable difference - 24" 1920x1200 monitor 2 feet away from me on my desk.

BTW, I'm assuming this is 1080p h.264 AVC. This machine has no 4K screen nor does it have hardware HEVC decoding. Do only HEVC-capable machines get HEVC options in Windows 10 Netflix?



Yup. I ran the install from inside Windows 10 off a DVD, and updated just fine. But it's updating as if it's upgrading Windows 10 to Windows 10, with a complete old Windows.old directory saved. This is the same process as going from Windows 7 to Windows 10, like doing a near-new OS install. So if you're short on space, you'll want to clean that up to capture some space back.

True that!
 

Ketchup

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Broke bridged Ethernet mode on Vmware. Had to go to switch the VMs to NAT. And it told me that my HP printer was running with minimal features. Other than that, everything went fine.
 

quikah

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BTW, I'm assuming this is 1080p h.264 AVC. This machine has no 4K screen nor does it have hardware HEVC decoding. Do only HEVC-capable machines get HEVC options in Windows 10 Netflix?

AFAIK 4K is only supported on the 4K TV apps. I haven't seen any mention of getting 4K support to PCs yet.
 

Eug

Lifer
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AFAIK 4K is only supported on the 4K TV apps. I haven't seen any mention of getting 4K support to PCs yet.

Thx but I was wondering more about h.265 HEVC for 1080p (and other resolutions).

H.264 is actually better for me but I'm curious nonetheless.
 

TeknoBug

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Broke bridged Ethernet mode on Vmware. Had to go to switch the VMs to NAT. And it told me that my HP printer was running with minimal features. Other than that, everything went fine.

Hmm VMware I just checked mine out, yep bridge not working.

BTW, after cleaning up the system files, including the old install of Windows 10 1511, I recovered something like 16 GB or so worth of space.

25GB recovered for me.
 
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