Ouch. This seems to be a very common complaint the more reviews I read.
Have they found where the noise is? Is it at the reservoir or at the card?
Very annoying on both samples.
But they do agree. Both sites made their claim when stress testing the card. Both showed different temps during normal game play.
Ouch. This seems to be a very common complaint the more reviews I read.
Have they found where the noise is? Is it at the reservoir or at the card?
Ouch. This seems to be a very common complaint the more reviews I read.
Have they found where the noise is? Is it at the reservoir or at the card?
I don't get it man. Who ok'd this card to go out. Who ok'd the pump design and noise. This goes for reference 290X also.
AMD reminds me of those autistic savants who are brilliant beyond imagination in ONE aspect only. Like playing piano concertos without ever taking a lesson, or reading a library's worth of books and remembering every word on every page and can recite them on command. But when it comes to everyday social interaction or everyday regular tasks, they have incredible amounts of trouble. AMD reminds me of this. They do make fantastic GPUs, especially for the budget they have. I marvel at that. Then I marvel that they let this go to reviewers and retail with a loud whiny pump and no overclocking tools. It's like showing up to a race with your newly built hot rod and then reaching over the side with a sheet rock knife and slashing one of your own tires.
I was wondering if anybody was tired of it. Sorry for the rant.
I don't get it man. Who ok'd this card to go out. Who ok'd the pump design and noise. This goes for reference 290X also.
AMD reminds me of those autistic savants who are brilliant beyond imagination in ONE aspect only. Like playing piano concertos without ever taking a lesson, or reading a library's worth of books and remembering every word on every page and can recite them on command. But when it comes to everyday social interaction or everyday regular tasks, they have incredible amounts of trouble. AMD reminds me of this. They do make fantastic GPUs, especially for the budget they have. I marvel at that. Then I marvel that they let this go to reviewers and retail with a loud whiny pump and no overclocking tools. It's like showing up to a race with your newly built hot rod and then reaching over the side with a sheet rock knife and slashing one of your own tires.
I was wondering if anybody was tired of it. Sorry for the rant.
I'm confused, what am I missing?
Tom's -> Gaming VRM temp = Cool (probably about 80 C or so), Furmark = 100+ C
hardware.fr -> Gaming VRM temp = 104 C, Furmark = NA
How do those agree?
I don't get it man, why aren't there huge threads about Coolermaster's CPU AIO pump noise considering people are saying it's the same sound signature? Why the same names repeatedly yelling "Failure!"? Perhaps because CPU cooling isn't a duopoly?
Has anyone been denied a refund or RMA yet when wanting to replace a noisy Fury X?
Note that noise doesn't seem to be a big issue in the Overclock.net owners thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/1547314/official-amd-r9-radeon-fury-nano-x-x2-fiji-owners-club/0_50
I'm confused, what am I missing?
Tom's -> Gaming VRM temp = Cool (probably about 80 C or so), Furmark = 100+ C
hardware.fr -> Gaming VRM temp = 104 C, Furmark = NA
How do those agree?
Its the pump
pcper just put up an article after purchasing two XFX retail samples from newegg. they found the retail samples are worse than their press samples.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Retail-AMD-Fury-X-Sound-Testing-Pump-Whine-Investigation
My Sapphire version arrives tonight from newegg. I'll report back on the noise level.
I believe it's the pump. Not everyone has reported it, but there are several that have. One person said they got rid of it by putting pressure against the pump.
I don't get it man. Who ok'd this card to go out. Who ok'd the pump design and noise. This goes for reference 290X also.
AMD reminds me of those autistic savants who are brilliant beyond imagination in ONE aspect only. Like playing piano concertos without ever taking a lesson, or reading a library's worth of books and remembering every word on every page and can recite them on command. But when it comes to everyday social interaction or everyday regular tasks, they have incredible amounts of trouble. AMD reminds me of this. They do make fantastic GPUs, especially for the budget they have. I marvel at that. Then I marvel that they let this go to reviewers and retail with a loud whiny pump and no overclocking tools. It's like showing up to a race with your newly built hot rod and then reaching over the side with a sheet rock knife and slashing one of your own tires.
I was wondering if anybody was tired of it. Sorry for the rant.
This high-pitched whine is annoying enough to constitute a major drawback from a $650 video card, so naturally, I asked AMD about the problem. In response, I got the following statement from AMD
AMD received feedback that during open bench testing some cards emit a mild "whining" noise. This is normal for most high speed liquid cooling pumps; Usually the end user cannot hear the noise as the pumps are installed in the chassis, and the radiator fan is louder than the pump. Since the AMD Radeon R9 FuryX radiator fan is near silent, this pump noise is more noticeable.
The issue is limited to a very small batch of initial production samples and we have worked with the manufacturer to improve the acoustic profile of the pump. This problem has been resolved and a fix added to production parts and is not an issue.
Lol, we don't always see eye to eye Keys but that was pretty good. It does seem like AMD has released stuff half-baked lately.
They might or might not. It would make for another interesting thread in the CPU forum. Probably. I'm not yelling "Failure", am I? (you quoted me, so I assume you meant that it was I who is yelling failure).
And you used my same words to mock me. I feel so owned. Very clever sir!
Seriously though, this thread really isn't about why there ISN'T outcries for other products. It's partially about whey there IS for this one. Even worse than press samples? Actually NOT fixed or addressed in retail samples as AMD reported to several review sites after they commented on it to them?
This whole thing could have absolutely been avoided if the right person cared enough to do his/her job well enough. They did not.
You only reference self-sabotage in the quoted post. The "Failure" is just citing an obvious trend, for example "AMD Fury X Postmortem: What Went Wrong?".
Gaming doesn't mean much, there are huge power load differences between games.
My understanding is that Tom's gaming loop is actually Unigine Heaven. This test is kind of tessellation bound on the Fury X which reduces the power load (~220W).
I'm completely missing your point, Vesku. Is there one?
Doesn't an outcry have to come from product owners otherwise it's more of astroturfing (whether paid or not)?
well this isnt the amd subforum...
Odd, I didn't mention hardware.fr. This is what happens when one poster incorrectly calls out the wrong site.
Both this site an Hardware.fr are wrong about VRM temps wich are likely much less than 100°C.
Add Tom's to the list, they too also claimed VRM's over 100c.
Tom's reported over 100 C on the VRMs only during Furmark which AMD doesn't throttle as much as Nvidia.
I'm not concluding one way or another, just that Tom's and hardware.fr don't agree.
But they do agree.
And I also didn't say Furmark. I don't exactly know what Tom's did to stress the card out, as their article didn't say. They alluded to a power virus.
Wait, I thought AMD was going to do some kind of swap to make sure retail versions were not affected like sample versions? Or is there a lot # to look out for?
Woof, AMD can't catch a break.
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Doesn't an outcry have to come from product owners otherwise it's more of astroturfing (whether paid or not)?
Sequence of quotes.
hardware.fr was in it from the beginning. All I'm saying is that they and Tom's readings don't agree, that's it. Perhaps if Tom's removed the backplate they'd see the same thing during gaming, but that's not what they did so we have conflicting readings and would need a site to look into it more for confirmation.
99% sure they use Furmark, I think it's buried in an earlier review when they changed their testing methods. Either way, it is admittedly a power virus so it should have the same characteristics.
That's what I thought too, but I think that may have been a misinterpretation from a previous report. It sounds like (to me anyway) that the initial production had the issue and that these were used for review samples and initial product launch. After feedback they supposedly have addressed the problem meaning after a certain date or batch number the problem should be fixed, we'll see. I have seen a couple videos on youtube of quite cards, so maybe they got later batches?
You're saying I have to own a FuryX to be aggravated that AMD released the card that way? I can't take reviewers words for it that the pump whine is loud and annoying in the press sample, and even worse in retail FuryXs they purchased?
Why?
True, gaming very much depends on the software used. Last I knew, Tom's used a game benchmark on loop (Crysis 3 or something), but I'd have to ask to confirm. It really doesn't matter though as for them, Furmark is what shows VRMs above 100 C, no other game is going to come near Furmark power consumption on an AMD card, they don't power throttle Furmark as heavily as Nvidia does. Again, I'm not saying one is right, the other is wrong, I'm just saying they don't agree. You guys took the backplate off whereas Tom's didn't, I think that's the biggest discrepancy and could possibly account for the difference.
The AMD setup will be quiter anyway, in all thoses reviews are missing the neessary db that come from fan extractors wich open air design a la Nvidia need anyway, just to get rid of the hot air due to a SLI set up will cover the cards own noises, or else there will be huge throttlings..
On the other end a Fury cooling system need nothing more than itself to do the job done correctly..