i didn't think this thread could get any more hilarious after phokus was afraid to come back after it backfired .... boy was i wrong!
He's probably correct. Several manufacturers were already cheating on other benchmarks, essentially artificially increasing the clock rate for when certain programs were detected.
Ideally they would provide a description for how the benchmark works, which should provide some indication of its usefulness. Also, other sites also have their own methods of testing similar performance metrics, so there's definitely a possibility to compare these results with other results to see how much correlation there is.
While the numbers themselves are important, it's also necessary to see if the ranking of devices remains consistent. There are all kinds of external factors that can influence the results, such as strength of the WiFi or cellular signal, the sites being visited, etc. that can impact the observed battery life in terms of actual length, but if the same phones tend to come out towards the top across multiple different benchmarks, we can assume that AT's benchmark is just as good as any other site.
If someone thinks AT has a bad, biased, or unrepresentative benchmark, why not actually compile some data that can actually be used to support or refute this claim rather than simply complaining about it. I would imagine that it the results are quite far off from what other reviewers are seeing that AT would try to devise a more accurate or representative bench mark.
Cheating can be caught and called out, that's no excuse for not revealing exactly what your benchmark is testing IMHO. And if your test methodology is easily cheated, then it needs refining. At least with an open source method we the consumers would also be able to spot any foul play. An open source testing method means more accountability from both the OEMs as well as the reviewers, in addition to increased transparency for all.
Why is it only Apple releases that cause these bizarre people to come out of the woodwork? ..................
When Windows 10 was anounced, the forums aren't filled with OSX and linux users raging about it.
A lot of people are extremely partial to Apple. It's a cult. That's why.
Criticisms are generally not well taken by these people.
Completely agreed. I'm all about the test method. If your test method is robust enough to give a good battery benchmark, then cheating shouldn't matter.Cheating can be caught and called out, that's no excuse for not revealing exactly what your benchmark is testing IMHO. And if your test methodology is easily cheated, then it needs refining. At least with an open source method we the consumers would also be able to spot any foul play. An open source testing method means more accountability from both the OEMs as well as the reviewers, in addition to increased transparency for all.
I think the fact that they show the Nexus 5 getting 7 hours of screen on time on LTE is a bit concerning. Yeah, you can probably achieve that reading an eBook, but is that representative of typical use? I get 3 hours of use maybe at best on LTE.If someone thinks AT has a bad, biased, or unrepresentative benchmark, why not actually compile some data that can actually be used to support or refute this claim rather than simply complaining about it. I would imagine that it the results are quite far off from what other reviewers are seeing that AT would try to devise a more accurate or representative bench mark.
TBH when Apple devices are released a wave of criticism articles hit the net including this site. Its not about taking criticism or anything like that. Its about pushing an agenda. You can see the bendgate thread, the iOS 8 issues thread, etc are all about reporting the issue and making fun of Apple.A lot of people are extremely partial to Apple. It's a cult. That's why.
Criticisms are generally not well taken by these people.
I think the fact that they show the Nexus 5 getting 7 hours of screen on time on LTE is a bit concerning. Yeah, you can probably achieve that reading an eBook, but is that representative of typical use? I get 3 hours of use maybe at best on LTE.
I think for now they're probably the best benchmark we have out there (I also like to use GSM Arena's data), but honestly, it would be more useful if we had a test that EVERYONE can use... think 3D Mark.
Booo!
That's not entirely true. The Operating Systems board has its share of stupid thanks to Windows 10.
How do you know you'll (or your wife/whatever will) be satisfied with a Note 4, when it's not even out?
And I'll buy the Blackberry Passport.
shell is made out of 6063 aluminum, not sure how it was tempered
same stuff used in aluminum window frames
I thought that they used 6061?shell is made out of 6063 aluminum, not sure how it was tempered
same stuff used in aluminum window frames
I thought that they used 6061?
6063 is pretty "soft" isn't it?
my job is basically to test and break things, components to full devices. In the past year we have broken something close to 1000 phones (many different ones) among other things. all of them perfectly functional before we get to them. cant tell you specifics.
I'm going to guess that a Nokia did quite well.so which phones performed the best ?
Even a lot more so than Android fan boys, Samgsung fan boys are guilty of drinking Kool Aid just like the Apple people they constantly harp on. They'll call an iPhone guy who "upgrades" to a new iPhone that they consider mostly identical stupid. But when Samsung announces a new Galaxy that has a .1" bigger screen, slightly faster CPU and they changed the textured feel of the back. ZOMG 1st day must buy! Both Apple and Samsung fan boys are stupid.
NOTE: I don't consider most people who buy either to be a fan boy, just the ones who are blinded by their love for a silly ass cell phone. I own both and there's no struggle, yes I like iOS the best, but I bought a Windows Phone. And I'll buy the Blackberry Passport. Nice is nice I could care less what OS it runs and what company released it. *shrug*
I prefer physical keyboards, and i think the white one is the best looking phone in a long timeWhy?
A lot of reviewers who like Blackberry devices have panned the Passport. It also has an extra .5" in width over something like the Note 4 or the iPhone 6+ so it would be even more difficult to use.