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roguerower

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Come on Ebola! You gotta infect the whole world before you start killing people! How are you going to mop up those pesky Greenlanders?
 

DaTT

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With a fatality rate of upwards of 90%, how do people survive? Does the immune system eventually kill it off? Does it just die off? I ask because I just read/watched that the human body has no natural defenses against the virus.
 

Thebobo

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No. But an airborne version infected a medical primate facility in Virginia. Luckily it was asymptomatic in people.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reston_virus

Went to that building a couple years later to look at thier door sercurity system. Was kinda sacery.

make sure you read

The Hot Zone: A Terrifying True Story

A highly infectious, deadly virus from the central African rain forest suddenly appears in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. There is no cure. In a few days 90 percent of its victims are dead. A secret military SWAT team of soldiers and scientists is mobilized to stop the outbreak of this exotic "hot" virus. The Hot Zone tells this dramatic story, giving a hair-raising account of the
appearance of rare and lethal viruses and their "crashes" into the human race. Shocking, frightening, and impossible to ignore, The Hot Zone proves that truth really is scarier than fiction.

ops just saw Esquareds post - oh well great book.
 
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pcgeek11

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The disease's spread seemed to slow down for a while, but has picked up in recent weeks. An estimated 528 people have been infected, and 337 have died in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia. While it's likely that many cases go uncounted, the Associated Press notes that previously, the largest reported death toll was in the Congo in 1976, when 280 people died. (The most widespread outbreak infected 425 people in Uganda in 2000, killing 224.)

OMG! It's a killing field... NOT.
 

SlickSnake

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It's not highly contagious.

Viruses like Ebola? You mean other filoviruses? Which ones?

Not sure why you'd compare bacteria to ebola regarding extracellular survival.



Many viruses have been known to remain alive outside a host for up to 2 weeks or more for quite a while now. That would include Ebola strains. So I didn't bother to post that, figuring that most people here who are at least slightly educated already knew that. However, since I read about the recent 10 year long bacteria research study a few days ago, I posted that instead.

CAPICHE?

And what part of the phrase "highly contagious in endemic populations who rarely (if ever) practice good personal hygiene" did you not understand? That would be HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS if they are passing it along to nearly everyone they meet, would it not? :hmm:

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

Ebola then spreads in the community through human-to-human transmission, with infection resulting from direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected people, and indirect contact with environments contaminated with such fluids. Burial ceremonies in which mourners have direct contact with the body of the deceased person can also play a role in the transmission of Ebola. Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness.

Health-care workers have frequently been infected while treating patients with suspected or confirmed EVD. This has occurred through close contact with patients when infection control precautions are not strictly practiced.
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/ebola-outbreak-tip-iceberg-experts-say-n137081

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/20/ebola-west-africa_n_5515140.html
 
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SlickSnake

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One thing that limits how far Ebola spreads is how fast it takes down its victims. It is only contagious during its symptomatic period. In this case the symptoms come hard and the victims are in no condition to spread anything.

That is not accurate. Even improperly handling a long dead corpse with it can still spread the infection.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

Signs and symptoms

EVD is a severe acute viral illness often characterized by the sudden onset of fever, intense weakness, muscle pain, headache and sore throat. This is followed by vomiting, diarrhea, rash, impaired kidney and liver function, and in some cases, both internal and external bleeding. Laboratory findings include low white blood cell and platelet counts and elevated liver enzymes.

People are infectious as long as their blood and secretions contain the virus. Ebola virus was isolated from semen 61 days after onset of illness in a man who was infected in a laboratory.

The incubation period, that is, the time interval from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms, is 2 to 21 days.
 
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manimal

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ok normal person hat on....sad to see this happen

ok atot hat on.......burn the bodies we dont want wights and I think selfies have a better chance of creating a pandemic


and that book rocks too. Read it in the 90s as well.
 

Gibsons

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Many viruses have been known to remain alive outside a host for up to 2 weeks or more for quite a while now. That would include Ebola strains.
Maybe in a freezer, in a lab.

So I didn't bother to post that, figuring that most people here who are at least slightly educated already knew that. However, since I read about the recent 10 year long bacteria research study a few days ago, I posted that instead.
Many viruses can last for years, decades, probably more. Ebola is not one of those viruses. It's half life outside of fluids is less than a day. Sapriganti et. al. As far as viral stability goes, it's very much on the low end.


CAPICHE?

And what part of the phrase "highly contagious in endemic populations who rarely (if ever) practice good personal hygiene" did you not understand? That would be HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS if they are passing it along to nearly everyone they meet, would it not? :hmm:

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/ebola-outbreak-tip-iceberg-experts-say-n137081

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/20/ebola-west-africa_n_5515140.html
A virus that requires direct contact, breaks in skin, clustering etc. isn't very contagious compared to something like measles. It's called highly contagious in some instances, but context is important.
 

DCal430

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That is not accurate. Even improperly handling a long dead corpse with it can still spread the infection.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

Semen holds the virus longer than blood, so people who recover should not have unprotected sex. But those who have recovered are still safe to touch and come in contact with. As for dead people, they still can't go around spreading the disease. I am not saying the disease can't be spread, I am saying it can't spread much beyond a local area easily. The fact that it isn't infectious during its incubation period limits how far it can spread.
 

DCal430

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Ebola doesn't require direct contact for infection, many infections are due to indirect contact, and everyone has breaks in their skin. Ebola is actually much more infectious than something like HIV. Someone who is infected touches a door knob, gets sweat on it (which has the virus), and you touch the door a few hours later, you can be infected now.
 

rstove02

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Has anyone else involuntarily used hand sanitizier during the course of reading this thread? (Not to say that it would be effective against Ebola, probably wouldn't. Was just merely curious if if anyone else did.)
 

GagHalfrunt

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and that book rocks too. Read it in the 90s as well.

Scarier than anything Stephen King ever wrote.

Also read "The Demon in the Freezer" also by Richard Preston. Deals with the weapon-ization of smallpox, anthrax, etc and the huge stockpiles that exist ready to be used.
 

Thebobo

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Its getting worse and they are getting scared!
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We are all going to die well at least 9 out of 10 of us. Best study up on the feudal system. And if anyone wants to join my Kingdom when the reset is is all over Send me a tell and I will put you on the waiting list.

Be sure to watch the video, the dude who discoved the virus calling it a spectacular virus lol.

Ebola virus: Can nations stop deadliest ever outbreak from spreading?

  • World Health Organization has warned that "drastic action" is needed to halt the epidemic
  • The outbreak is the largest in terms of number of deaths and geographical spread
  • The virus, which kills up to 90% of those infected, is spread through contact with body fluids

. Run away!
 

Insomniator

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Do we really need Africa for anything? Quarantine it for 100 years and then we can start over.
 

surfsatwerk

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Its getting worse and they are getting scared!
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We are all going to die well at least 9 out of 10 of us. Best study up on the feudal system. And if anyone wants to join my Kingdom when the reset is is all over Send me a tell and I will put you on the waiting list.

Be sure to watch the video, the dude who discoved the virus calling it a spectacular virus lol.

Ebola virus: Can nations stop deadliest ever outbreak from spreading?

  • World Health Organization has warned that "drastic action" is needed to halt the epidemic
  • The outbreak is the largest in terms of number of deaths and geographical spread
  • The virus, which kills up to 90% of those infected, is spread through contact with body fluids

. Run away!

Dibs on the position of Grande Vizier.
 

mmntech

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It's not worth panicking over, yet. The flu kills 250,000 to 500,000 every year. Malaria kills between 600,000 and 1.2 million.

The scary part about ebola is the high mortality rate. Where as the flu kills 10%, this thing kills 90%. There is no vaccine and no known treatment so far. Which is why the WHO and CDC are working aggressively to contain it.
 

gorcorps

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Do we really need Africa for anything? Quarantine it for 100 years and then we can start over.

I'll never understand why we spend so much time and energy trying to turn that uninhabitable shit-hole into anything more than what it is.
 

Broheim

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It's not worth panicking over, yet. The flu kills 250,000 to 500,000 every year. Malaria kills between 600,000 and 1.2 million.

The scary part about ebola is the high mortality rate. Where as the flu kills 10%, this thing kills 90%. There is no vaccine and no known treatment so far. Which is why the WHO and CDC are working aggressively to contain it.

but the chance of it successfully spreading to other continents is quite low, it's relatively easy to quarantine, and outbreaks in Africa even more so (lack of roads in the areas with large outbreaks).
 
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