That said, an argument could be made that anyone who has ever made any money whatsoever derived that income from the labor of others. So . . . . not sure what your point is.
The lack of self awareness is staggering.
That said, an argument could be made that anyone who has ever made any money whatsoever derived that income from the labor of others. So . . . . not sure what your point is.
Hahahahaha what the hell
Oh gosh a big out of context number! Did you know the Sun is 1,391,000 km wide? That seems like a big number! Surely that means it will destroy us all in its flame, since we're basing things solely on how big the numbers seem.
FYI the US debt is probably marginally larger relative to GDP than is ideal, and should absolutely be brought down in the long-term, but poses absolutely no threat to the United States in the short- or medium-terms, and is absolutely manageable. Cutting in the face of recession is a proven terrible strategy that caused the Great Depression, yet it's brought up every time because it fits ideological goals, not because it actually works. The 1990s would have benefited greatly from us paying down the debt with our surpluses, rather than huge tax cuts and throwing endless money into wars.
Hahahaha, oh okay, it's just a joke post. No one could actually think the US government is or should be run like a business, despite their fundamental and enormous differences.
Here's another funny joke: Your family isn't a charity. It needs to be run like a business! If employees (children) aren't producing surplus value, they need to be fired immediately! If our family isn't making an annual profit to distribute to shareholders, our management could get fired, so downsizing is probably in order.
Both of those analogies fail to exactly the same degree.
Congrats on being in an area where there's legal work to be done starting at age 13, and that you were hired to do it, and the money didn't have to be immediately spent on putting food in your family's mouths. Not everyone has that good fortune. But feel free to shit on them anyway, since surely your life circumstances are applicable to everyone else.
Because no one else has the resources, social position, taxing power, enforcement mechanism, and absolute faith and full credit of the United States government. Also, we know that businesses and non-profits don't perform these roles, because in real life history - not libertarian fantasy free market solves all problems theory land - they absolutely did not. Social Security was the reaction to generations of the vast majority of American citizens dying in poverty. A tiny minority do now. Did we just jump the gun, and the Free Market was going to fix the problem the following year?
The lack of self awareness is staggering.
Considering I worked 160 hour + weeks for ~5 years of my life, I would say that I earned it.
I am a patent attorney - so I'm not sure how it can be said that any of my income was expropriated from the labor of others. I do have an assistant who keeps my docket in order . . . but I wouldn't say my income is in any way derived from her efforts. Not to understate her importance, of course.
That said, an argument could be made that anyone who has ever made any money whatsoever derived that income from the labor of others. So . . . . not sure what your point is. Or if it is even relevant to the discussion.
As to my spending power - it is the same as everyone else who lives on the U.S. dollar, because spending power amounts to "what can one buy with a given amount of money." How much money one has is not relevant to that concept. If you are asking about how much of my wealth is attributed to lower wages of other people . . . I would say little to none. I work in a highly specialized field, and my income (apart from investment returns) is derived almost solely from my own labor.
One cannot actually patent "living off the labor of others". One can only patent products and procedures that people are free to adopt or not, except where government interferes of course. As radical as you find it, many of us don't agree that generally speaking, people benefiting from creating some product or service that others voluntarily adopt as making their lives better are being awarded "disproportionate benefits", despite what Mao's Little Red Book may say on the matter.Wait, you work as an attorney dealing with the US patent system and you don't see how your livelihood might come from a system that awards disproportionate benefits to the wealthy and established interests, ie: living off the labor of others?
One of my best friends is a patent attorney specializing in medical devices and he would laugh out loud at that idea.
So educate me. How do I, a patent attorney, derive my wealth from the labor of others less fortunate than myself?
Considering I worked 160 hour + weeks for ~5 years of my life, I would say that I earned it.
One cannot actually patent "living off the labor of others". One can only patent products and procedures that people are free to adopt or not, except where government interferes of course. As radical as you find it, many of us don't agree that generally speaking, people benefiting from creating some product or service that others voluntarily adopt as making their lives better are being awarded "disproportionate benefits", despite what Mao's Little Red Book may say on the matter.
Riiight. You're not against patents, they just award "disproportionate benefits to the wealthy and established interests, ie: living off the labor of others."LOL COMMIES AMIRITE?
To address your straw man: I am not against patents. The US patent system in its current form however massively advantages large institutional actors, which frequently abuse patents to close out industries and extract rents from small actors.
Extracting rents = living off the labor of others.
Great example? Smartphones. There will never be a new actor in the smartphone industry that is not some massive corporation simply due to the blizzard of patent litigation that would happen.
Riiight. You're not against patents, they just award "disproportionate benefits to the wealthy and established interests, ie: living off the labor of others."
I just have to ask, did you have posters of Bundy and Dhamer on your walls growing up?
As you can see from above the right wing despises society. That the best place for their boot is on their grandparents neck. Such is the nature that we are dealing with here, so when something like ACA becomes law they are absolutely dumbfounded.
Riiight. You're not against patents, they just award "disproportionate benefits to the wealthy and established interests, ie: living off the labor of others."
Look, let's cut through the BS political jargon and get to the basics. Free market healthcare would mean that a certain set of the population would not get access to health care unless someone else paid for them. That's the bottom line of the "for profit" approach. There's no guarantee that adequate charity will ever be available. I for one don't want to live in a country where someone dies because they couldn't afford basic health services, because they couldn't pay for it.
Fair enough.I am pro-patent, but I think our current system of awarding and litigating patents heavily favors the wealthy and established interests.
How is this hard to understand?
It is kind of bizarre. He's accusing the right wing of wanting jack boots on their grandparents' necks for opposing a law putting jack boots on all our necks.People like this douchebag are what makes me hate "liberals".
I pissed my pants with laughter at this, fantastic work!
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It is kind of bizarre. He's accusing the right wing of wanting jack boots on their grandparents' necks for opposing a law putting jack boots on all our necks.
Wait, you work as an attorney dealing with the US patent system and you don't see how your livelihood might come from a system that awards disproportionate benefits to the wealthy and established interests, ie: living off the labor of others?
One of my best friends is a patent attorney specializing in medical devices and he would laugh out loud at that idea.
There isn't a single person in society who hasn't derived their wealth from the labour of others, be they less fortunate or more fortunate than yourself, be it directly or indirectly.
The patent system wouldn't work without the publicly funded legal system required to enforce it.
Wow! You went 5 years only sleeping 8 hours per week!
I've come up with a word for death by lack of health care insurance. Insuricide
I would be interested in talking to your friend, because no. I do not see how I benefit from the labor of others any more than anyone else in a service industry might.
FWIW, many of my clients are not "wealthy and established interests." And I too specialize in medical devices. Ask your friend if he feels the same way about his startup clients (if he has any).
Wait, you work as an attorney dealing with the US patent system and you don't see how your livelihood might come from a system that awards disproportionate benefits to the wealthy and established interests, ie: living off the labor of others?
My friend is in house counsel so he only has one client, who is quite wealthy and quite well established, haha.
As for how you benefit from the labor of others, the US patent system in its current form allows large interests and NPEs to extract rents, which is basically the definition of benefiting from the labor of others. Due to the high costs associated with patent litigation those rents are only typically available to people with deep pockets.
What's amusing is that "liberals" vehemently defend the concept of intellectual property. Monopolies are bad! Unless it's a monopoly on an idea, then they're cool with it.
Ask your friend the next time he feels like he works for a corporate slug - how do the patients that use his employer's inventions feel? And how might they feel if those inventions were not available? Sure, his employer makes medical devices to make money. But it just so happens that those devices also help patients. And without the patent system, a lot of those devices would never have come to fruition. Your friend may not want to admit it. But inside he knows it to be true.
As for the problem of NPE's, you are overgeneralizing and applying a problem that is really specific to one industry and using it to debunk the entire system. You see anything wrong with that?