And here we go. Trump campaign adviser floats false birther theory about Kamala Harris' eligibility for vice president

[Jhhnn]

Any baby born on US soil whose parents are NOT citizens are anchor babies. That the law. That baby of course enjoys the same citizenship status as if both parents were already citizens. I know you know this.

I just Googled other words for anchor baby and had no idea some people think its derogatory. I certainly meant nothing negative with it. How about this. Kamala was a baby who was born on American soil whose parents werent citizens. Hows that?

edit: oh theres also assimilation baby?

There is no such thing as anchor babies. American citizen minors are regularly deported with illegal alien parents if the parents choose not to leave them in the care of citizens or the govt. It has no relevance to the children of legal immigrants in the slightest. The rules for them don't change just because they have citizen children, although they should.

There were probably idiot birthers back when Andrew Jackson was elected because both his parents were born in Ireland.

 

[zinfamous]

compuwiz was already suckling hard on that flaccid cock of a "theory" yesterday.

these people are truly vile pieces of shit.

 

[woolfe9998]

Any baby born on US soil whose parents are NOT citizens are anchor babies. That the law. That baby of course enjoys the same citizenship status as if both parents were already citizens. I know you know this.

I just Googled other words for anchor baby and had no idea some people think its derogatory. I certainly meant nothing negative with it. How about this. Kamala was a baby who was born on American soil whose parents werent citizens. Hows that?

edit: oh theres also assimilation baby?

"Anchor baby" is a derogatory colloquialism which you are using incorrectly. It doesn't refer to any child of immigrant parents born in the US. It specifically means the child is born here, then the child's citizenship is used to get citizenship or green cards for the parents. Hence, the word "anchor," as in, the child is an anchor for the parents. Whether that happened with Harris or not, I do not know.

 

[zinfamous]

Any baby born on US soil whose parents are NOT citizens are anchor babies. That the law. That baby of course enjoys the same citizenship status as if both parents were already citizens. I know you know this.

I just Googled other words for anchor baby and had no idea some people think its derogatory. I certainly meant nothing negative with it. How about this. Kamala was a baby who was born on American soil whose parents werent citizens. Hows that?

edit: oh theres also assimilation baby?

oh wow, the "Anchor Baby law"

I'm sure that you will show us this law.

and holy fuck lol at the rest of your post. Are you seriously that fucking ignorant? I will honestly give you the benefit of the doubt there...but holy fuck. Your brain has been royally fucked by piss-poor sourcing your entire life.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Any baby born on US soil whose parents are NOT citizens are anchor babies. That the law. That baby of course enjoys the same citizenship status as if both parents were already citizens. I know you know this.

I just Googled other words for anchor baby and had no idea some people think its derogatory. I certainly meant nothing negative with it. How about this. Kamala was a baby who was born on American soil whose parents werent citizens. Hows that?

edit: oh theres also assimilation baby?

most Americans are not born American soil....they are born in hospitals....

 

[blackangst1]

Jesus Christ I unknowingly used a non PC term but later fixed it. I was right in all other accounts. Harris is eligible for presidency, and the argument she isn't is bullshit.

Excuse the fuck out of me.

 

[woolfe9998]

Editorial is making a bullshit legal argument. He's claiming that the phrase in the 14th amendment "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof " adds an additional citizenship requirement not met here. But he doesn't explain exactly what he thinks the phrase means. Except it has a common sense definition: it means you are subject to the jurisdiction of our courts. Anyone present in the United States committing a crime or doing anything subjecting him to civil liability is subject to the jurisdiction of our courts.

With one narrow exception: foreign diplomats and their families aren't subject to the jurisdiction of our courts because of diplomatic immunity, which is why their children born here are not citizens. This is certainly what is meant by that phrase.

He's making an argument he knows to be false, because...

John C. Eastman - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[UNCjigga]

AFAIK “anchor babies” was the term coined for babies born via the birth tourism industry. This is not a term used for babies born to permanent residents or those here on visas intending to stay in the country. It’s for those babies born to rich tourists from countries like Nigeria/Russia/China who can finagle an extended stay visa, come to the US and live in a hotel or condo for 9-10 months and then give birth in a US hospital before heading back to their home country with their baby. Now they can be assured that if their country ever goes to shit (or if they are ever prosecuted) at least their “American” kids can bail with the cash.

 

[woolfe9998]

I have a feeling we are not going to ever hear the end of this lame argument, not between now and 11/3 and not even after she becomes VP, assuming that happens. It's going to be another birther movement which will go on for years.

I will say, however, that it's not quite a conspiracy theory because it isn't challenging the fact of where she was born. It's just a bad legal argument.

Edit: while Eastman's argument isn't really a conspiracy theory, there is one which has stemmed from it. Evidently conservatives are circulating on social media the theory that the dems are intentionally putting a non-citizen in as VP so that Nancy Pelosi can become the POTUS. LOL retards.

 

[zinfamous]

Jesus Christ I unknowingly used a non PC term but later fixed it. I was right in all other accounts. Harris is eligible for presidency, and the argument she isn't is bullshit.

Excuse the fuck out of me.

It's weird how it is so surprising to you, that everyone else is very surprised at you honestly not knowing anything about that. ....it speaks volumes, really.

 

[blackangst1]

It's weird how it is so surprising to you, that everyone else is very surprised at you honestly not knowing anything about that. ....it speaks volumes, really.

Of course it does.

 

[woolfe9998]

It's weird how it is so surprising to you, that everyone else is very surprised at you honestly not knowing anything about that. ....it speaks volumes, really.

I think it's more than possible that he really thought the term was a generic reference to any child born of immigrant parents who are not citizens. Sometimes people for one reason or another are not familiar with the meaning of even relatively common phrases.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Jesus Christ I unknowingly used a non PC term but later fixed it. I was right in all other accounts. Harris is eligible for presidency, and the argument she isn't is bullshit.

Excuse the fuck out of me.

In case you're unaware, you get regularly roasted on this forum like a thanksgiving turkey because you spout shit without having an understanding of it first. Annoyingly, like half of what you say makes sense, but then you'll use shit like 'anchor baby' without knowing it's origin or modern connotations then be like 'bwwaahhhh, i said something offensive?!'.

Stick to non-colloquialisms and you'll be better equipped to maintain some semblance of conversation with others.

 

[zinfamous]

I think it's more than possible that he really thought the term was a generic reference to any child born of immigrant parents who are not citizens. Sometimes people for one reason or another are not familiar with the meaning of even relatively common phrases.

oh yes, I know. I think I'm one of the few that believes him on that.

....but that is what is actually shocking. How can it be that you are so surrounded with information and people, of a mind, to be completely oblivious to the very derogatory, very specific purpose of that term. I mean, he honestly thought it was enshrined in law, haha.

It always comes down to the "I'm not a republican and I don't watch Fox!" but the same people are only ever surrounded by the very same ideas, the very same information, perhaps filtered through their friends and other sources to them. The same poison is rotting their brains, regardless of how it gets there. One can be completely honest about not watching a news thing, but then they are getting and agreeing to all of the exact same nonsense because of the bubbles that most of us tend to encircle ourselves in.

like DHT^ said up there, I think blackangst is a sensible person that does make good points, but there is a clear...I dunno, vacancy of information in there that he is completely oblivious to. It colors a lot of what he says and explains much.

Next, we're going to learn that Mexicans actually aren't called "wetbacks" and everyone will be shocked.

 

[Paratus]

Any baby born on US soil whose parents are NOT citizens are anchor babies. That the law. That baby of course enjoys the same citizenship status as if both parents were already citizens. I know you know this.

I just Googled other words for anchor baby and had no idea some people think its derogatory. I certainly meant nothing negative with it. How about this. Kamala was a baby who was born on American soil whose parents werent citizens. Hows that?

edit: oh theres also assimilation baby?

You know you say you aren’t a conservative or democrat but you use racially charged terms like “anchor babies” like a conservative.

 

[woolfe9998]

oh yes, I know. I think I'm one of the few that believes him on that.

....but that is what is actually shocking. How can it be that you are so surrounded with information and people, of a mind, to be completely oblivious to the very derogatory, very specific purpose of that term. I mean, he honestly thought it was enshrined in law, haha.

It always comes down to the "I'm not a republican and I don't watch Fox!" but the same people are only ever surrounded by the very same ideas, the very same information, perhaps filtered through their friends and other sources to them. The same poison is rotting their brains, regardless of how it gets there. One can be completely honest about not watching a news thing, but then they are getting and agreeing to all of the exact same nonsense because of the bubbles that most of us tend to encircle ourselves in.

like DHT^ said up there, I think blackangst is a sensible person that does make good points, but there is a clear...I dunno, vacancy of information in there that he is completely oblivious to. It colors a lot of what he says and explains much.

Next, we're going to learn that Mexicans actually aren't called "wetbacks" and everyone will be shocked.

Occasionally I find myself not knowing things that other people seem to know. One example was I didn't know what a "Karen" was until someone posted a thread about the Amy Cooper Central Park incident with that word in the title. But then, I did go to the Urban Dictionary to find out what it meant before posting in the thread.

 

[zinfamous]

Occasionally I find myself not knowing things that other people seem to know. One example was I didn't know what a "Karen" was until someone posted a thread about the Amy Cooper Central Park incident with that word in the title. But then, I did go to the Urban Dictionary to find out what it meant before posting in the thread.

I mean, that is a term that is also maybe 2-3 years old at this point, but really only in mass popular use for less than a year.

 

[MtnMan]

And of course 30 - 40% of the people are simply saying .... "I knew it"

 

[Vic]

compuwiz was already suckling hard on that flaccid cock of a "theory" yesterday.

these people are truly vile pieces of shit.

Trump and his supporters are liars pure and simple. They lie so much that they lie about lying. They lie even when it doesn't make sense for them to lie. And because all dishonesty begins with self-deception, calling them out on their lies with demonstrable facts and evidence-based truth only triggers them into lying more.

 

[Vic]

Any baby born on US soil whose parents are NOT citizens are anchor babies. That the law. That baby of course enjoys the same citizenship status as if both parents were already citizens. I know you know this.

There is no anchor baby law. Because the United States of America is a free country, which does not in any way tolerate slavery, every person born within the borders of the United States is guaranteed by the 14th amendment to the Constitution their freedom from slavery for life through citizenship. That is the law.

 

[blackangst1]

There is no anchor baby law. Because the United States of America is a free country, which does not in any way tolerate slavery, every person born within the borders of the United States is guaranteed by the 14th amendment to the Constitution their freedom from slavery for life through citizenship. That is the law.

Uh that's what I said. Thanks for your input though.

Edit... Multiple times.

 

[dawp]

Seriously dude? It's always been derogatory.

No fucking way you're that ignorant, are you?

why yes, yes he is.

 

[sportage]

Frankly I don’t care where Harris was born. I’m just hopeful we can have a vp that was born and not hatched.

 

[Vic]

Uh that's what I said. Thanks for your input though.

No, that wasn't what you said. Would you like me to quote every single one of your posts in this thread in a single post to prove that?
You were right that Trump is wrong for questioning Harris' eligibility to be VP. Where you were wrong was in insinuating that her eligibility was the result of some kind of legalistic mistake. The drafters of the 14a were fully aware of the implications of birthright citizenship and frequently said as much. They were also aware that the only people who opposed birthright citizenship did so because they supported slavery.

 

[blackangst1]

No, that wasn't what you said. Would you like me to quote every single one of your posts in this thread in a single post to prove that?
You were right that Trump is wrong for questioning Harris' eligibility to be VP. Where you were wrong was in insinuating that her eligibility was the result of some kind of legalistic mistake. The drafters of the 14a were fully aware of the implications of birthright citizenship and frequently said as much. They were also aware that the only people who opposed birthright citizenship did so because they supported slavery.

I specifically said the arguments of her ineligibility were bullshit. So yes go ahead start quoting. The only contention was I called her an anchor baby. Which, as I said, I had no idea it was a contentious term which I later corrected.

Politically correct or not, even anchor babies are eligible to serve as POTUS.

Go ahead. Quote away.