And I thought I spent too much on beer

[Hail The Brain Slug]

Unless I'm blind, I don't see the release number. My impressions will probably not mean much since I'm not the most descriptive person. I really enjoyed the beer

...................... It's supposed to look like this:

You clearly got a misprinted label. On this label, Ibis is the coffee roaster.

 

[gorb]

Thanks. If I pick up another bottle I'll make sure I don't get a misprint

 

[gorb]

tasty

 

[gorb]

Tried this last night. Still not a big fan of IPAs. I'll try a couple more though

Visited my grandparents again tonight:

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

Tried this last night. Still not a big fan of IPAs. I'll try a couple more though
/snip

Visited my grandparents again tonight:
/snip

If you want to try the IPA to end all IPAs, and the only IPA I can say I truly appreciate, pick up a (or as many as you can get your hands on) 120 minute IPA from Dogfish Head when they release the next batch soon.

Don't be fooled into trying 60, 75 or 90 minute IPAs, they are nothing in comparison to 120.

Edit: Dogfish Head release schedule has it listed for April-May release.

 

[nakedfrog]

Tried this last night. Still not a big fan of IPAs. I'll try a couple more though

I like Fresh Squeezed, but it's not one of my go-tos.
Based on what I've seen you post, I'd have to guess you've already tried Sierra Nevada's Pale Ale, but if not, give that a go.
Not the Torpedo or Hop Hunter (the latter of which is one of my go-tos).

If you want to try the IPA to end all IPAs, and the only IPA I can say I truly appreciate, pick up a (or as many as you can get your hands on) 120 minute IPA from Dogfish Head when they release the next batch soon.

Don't be fooled into trying 60, 75 or 90 minute IPAs, they are nothing in comparison to 120.

Edit: Dogfish Head release schedule has it listed for April-May release.

Is there that much difference? Gotta say I didn't care much for the 90 Minute IPA when I finally had a chance to try it. Way too much malt for my liking (in an IPA).

 

[gorb]

If you want to try the IPA to end all IPAs, and the only IPA I can say I truly appreciate, pick up a (or as many as you can get your hands on) 120 minute IPA from Dogfish Head when they release the next batch soon.

Don't be fooled into trying 60, 75 or 90 minute IPAs, they are nothing in comparison to 120.

Edit: Dogfish Head release schedule has it listed for April-May release.

I'll give it a shot if I see it. I have a list of other IPAs to try before I give up on them - Community Mosaic, Ballast Point Sculpin (+variants), one my brother in law recommended but I already forgot the name of, Stone IPA, and perhaps a few others people have recommended.

I like Fresh Squeezed, but it's not one of my go-tos.
Based on what I've seen you post, I'd have to guess you've already tried Sierra Nevada's Pale Ale, but if not, give that a go.
Not the Torpedo or Hop Hunter (the latter of which is one of my go-tos).

I have tried Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and didn't care much for it either

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Fwiw, the 120 is like a boiler maker. . Tried it twice two different years. . Way to much alcohol taste.

Raisen de extra is better but not an ipa. . Extra, not etra!

 

[-slash-]

Ninkasi Tricerahops or Total Domination are good. My favorite go to IPA is Stones Delicious. Pinedrops and Fresh Squeezed arent bad as are the Sierra Nevadas, but that Delicious is something else.

 

[JasonCoder]

I've lost count of Stone's IPAs - all of which are very good. Ruination is superb.

Keep a lookout for their drink by xx/xx/xx series. I see them about 2-3 times a year. Off the hook DIPAs.

 

[piasabird]

Use to get a case of schlitz for like $3.50 . . . .

 

[gorb]

 

[Kyle]

Is there that much difference? Gotta say I didn't care much for the 90 Minute IPA when I finally had a chance to try it. Way too much malt for my liking (in an IPA).

Totally different- it's hardly a beer - really boozy and really sweet - the sweetness is what most people don't expect when they first try it. I've had it a few times- I like it but for me it's not worth the price. I do like their 90 minute too but not a huge dog fish head fan overall.

 

[SNC]

If you want to try the IPA to end all IPAs, and the only IPA I can say I truly appreciate, pick up a (or as many as you can get your hands on) 120 minute IPA from Dogfish Head when they release the next batch soon.

Don't be fooled into trying 60, 75 or 90 minute IPAs, they are nothing in comparison to 120.

Edit: Dogfish Head release schedule has it listed for April-May release.

A 120 is about as bad an example of an IPA as one can get, its closer to a barley wine.

 

[-slash-]

I've lost count of Stone's IPAs - all of which are very good. Ruination is superb.

Keep a lookout for their drink by xx/xx/xx series. I see them about 2-3 times a year. Off the hook DIPAs.

My local joint has a few bottles of the 10/31/16, I'm grabbing some.

 

[Kyle]

My local joint has a few bottles of the 10/31/16, I'm grabbing some.

Guessing that's one of their 'Best AFTER' series- usually the best by ipa dates are w/in a month or 2 of bottling. I haven't tried any of their best after ones - my favorite by far of the 'best by' ones was an unfiltered IPA they came out w/ a cycle or 2 ago- it was fantastic.

 

[-slash-]

Guessing that's one of their 'Best AFTER' series- usually the best by ipa dates are w/in a month or 2 of bottling. I haven't tried any of their best after ones - my favorite by far of the 'best by' ones was an unfiltered IPA they came out w/ a cycle or 2 ago- it was fantastic.

Yeah that would be it. I have yet to see a Best By series at my local places. The best by 4.20 looks delicious

 

[gorb]

 

[SNC]

That's great and all, but passing up one of the best and most anticipated beers of the year because you (they) don't like the company that owns the brewery is an idiot move. It's all about the beer, and if you make it about the company then you're saying the beer doesn't matter.

At that point, why do you (they) even drink beer?

If I could get my hands on more Bourbon County Brand beer, especially the barleywine, I'd buy as many as I could get my hands on. That's what I did already, and I only have 3 BCBS left.

Do you realize how much money is spent by InBEV to limit the shelf space of smaller breweries? Hundred of thousands of dollars a year for each distributer who signs on to their "promotion". Where do you think they get that money from? Its not the cheese or cookies at the yearly bake sale that funds the limiting of shelf space, its the people that buy their beer. If you are OK funding the actions put into place to limit the very thing you say you love, great beer, than by all means have at it. But had InBEV had a bit more foresight and started this many years ago, how many people do you think would have ever had a chance to have a BC? What you are saying is that you are happy with what you have now and fuck the next generation of great brewers. InBEV is willing to, and already has, spend more money to eliminate any possibility of the next great beer from being widely distributed, than all those brewers combined has ever made. Like I said if your OK with that then drink up. I will not fund the fucking of a small brewery there are just way to many other great beers out there.

 

[SNC]

I have Sofie in my fridge was brewed by GI, Bud didn't make it, inBev simply distributes it so I don't have to drive a ridiculously long distance to find it. Or, maybe not even be able to get it anywhere around me at all. GI's selling out means I have easy access to by far the best Farmhouse Ale I've ever had. I for one praise them for selling out. Me finding Sofie pre selling out was next to impossible. I enjoy drinking good beer, I don't enjoy calling a thousand liquor stores all across every city in a 50 mile radius to find something made by a hole in the wall brewery.

Ummmmm you realize that the reason you needed to "to drive a ridiculously long distance to find it. Or, maybe not even be able to get it anywhere around me at all." Is because of the actions of InBEV? They actually give money to distributers to limit the space small "hole in the wall breweries" And by supporting and defending that YOU are the reason other people have "to drive a ridiculously long distance to find it. Or, maybe not even be able to get it anywhere around me at all." for their favorite hole in the wall beer. But hay as long as you can get a shitty 312, really 312? that is like the bottom of the barrel heffe, for $8.99.

Stone's becoming a really large distributor for small breweries. I wonder at what point they will be too big and fall under the inBev/Gate City category and no longer be acceptable to drink by the beer'ies. I will laugh at the day the hipster beer snobs start to turn their noses up at Stone.

There is a huge difference between InBEN and Stone. Last I heard Stone actually supports the little guy, while InBEV wants to crush them and spends millions of dollars on commercials ridiculing them. Stone actually puts money into a channel to distribute brews that normally would not get to market. Apples and 50cal projectiles.

I can get a six pack of 312 for $8.99 I can only imagine if Bud wasn't behind them I'd be paying $12-14.99 for the same shit. I'm not seeing the downside to this so long as the beer stays the same quality. It sure beats spending $17 on a 4 pack of some crazy small brewery beer that ultimately costs more because they don't have the proper infrastructure to produce enough beer and be able to get it out for a reasonable price. I think a lot of the beer dudes hearts are in the right place, but they really don't know what they're fighting for. I never had an Elysian beer before Bud bought them, but Space Dust's a pretty awesome IPA, I don't understand why exactly I'm not suppose to like or drink it because they sold out? Good's good.[/QUOTE]


I know exactly what I'm fighting for, you on the other hand have this rose view of the devil who is hell bent on crushing anyone who would like to grow their footprint.

 

[SNC]

I'd really like to try these beers someday, i've actually thought about taking a 2 week holiday to Belgium just to try and sample all the different beers there.

Westvleteren Blonde, 8 and 12 , the last time these where available in America they where priced at around $85 for a 6 pack (with 2 glasses)

If you live in a state where beer can be shipped to a case can be had for 350 and 400 delivered to your door. The only authorized sales of Westies in the US from the brewery was that pack and they are all long gone. A group I'm with will get a case from time to time and split them up.

 

[gorb]

 

[OutHouse]

Still not a big fan of IPAs.

Im with you, im not a fan of IPA's.

 

[QueBert]

Ummmmm you realize that the reason you needed to "to drive a ridiculously long distance to find it. Or, maybe not even be able to get it anywhere around me at all." Is because of the actions of InBEV? They actually give money to distributers to limit the space small "hole in the wall breweries" And by supporting and defending that YOU are the reason other people have "to drive a ridiculously long distance to find it. Or, maybe not even be able to get it anywhere around me at all." for their favorite hole in the wall beer. But hay as long as you can get a shitty 312, really 312? that is like the bottom of the barrel heffe, for $8.99.




There is a huge difference between InBEN and Stone. Last I heard Stone actually supports the little guy, while InBEV wants to crush them and spends millions of dollars on commercials ridiculing them. Stone actually puts money into a channel to distribute brews that normally would not get to market. Apples and 50cal projectiles.

I know exactly what I'm fighting for, you on the other hand have this rose view of the devil who is hell bent on crushing anyone who would like to grow their footprint.

Eh? WAAAAY before Bud got into buying craft breweries, I still couldn't find a good selection of them without driving. Do you really think Elysian would have been able to make their beer available nation wide without help? I had trouble finding good craft beer before Bud got involved, now I don't have as hard as a time. And it's not just GI or Elysian. Bootleggers, Ritual, Alpine, Mad River, Anderson Valley etc. I saw none of these 2 years ago, now I can find them at 4 stores within 6 miles of me. Bud doesn't have it out for craft breweries any more than they have it out for Coors. Button line is it's business. I own a store, Bud will absolutely make deals to squeeze as much space for their beers as they can. And Coke will do the same thing to invade Pepsi's cooler space. This is how business works. The problem with craft places, many don't want to operate like a business. Russian River won't deal with me because I'm not a cool kid, and they go out of their way to artificially limit the availability of Pliney. That's awesome business practice no?

Craft breweries are growing at an insane rate, we got about 25 new breweries at the store this year alone. Before Bud got involved I had to drive 50 miles to get Goose Island Sofie, which imho is the best beer ever. And the one place that carried it never had much, so I couldn't buy a case and store it. I'd get 2 or 3 if I was lucky. Thank god I don't have to go thru that shit any more to drink a beer a like.

There's plenty of room for everyone who makes good beers to co-exist. I know 100% without Bud being involved I wouldn't be able to buy Space Dust anywhere in my city.
I drink Duet from Alpine, I drink River Runs Rye from Mad River. We have probably 200 different beers, all the breweries seem to be doing fine even though you claim Bud's crushing everything in their path. Bud distributes Golden Road, they'll have to kill me and pry the Wolf Among Weeds can from my cold dead hands.

Business is about survival of the fittest, Apple wants to crush Samsung, Samsung wants to crush Apple. Ford wants to crush Chevy. Even Stone and the smart craft breweries want to be top dog, which ultimately would mean they want to see others fail no? For the record I deal with a Bud rep every week and never once did they tell us to not carry any beer from any one competitor. The most was "we'll give you this nice ass cooler and fill it up for free if you remove this competitors cooler" That's about their extent of what they do. And I have hundreds of hours dealing directly with them. inDev is no more evil than any other successful company. *shrug*

 

[SNC]

Eh? WAAAAY before Bud got into buying craft breweries, I still couldn't find a good selection of them without driving. Do you really think Elysian would have been able to make their beer available nation wide without help? I had trouble finding good craft beer before Bud got involved, now I don't have as hard as a time. And it's not just GI or Elysian. Bootleggers, Ritual, Alpine, Mad River, Anderson Valley etc. I saw none of these 2 years ago, now I can find them at 4 stores within 6 miles of me. Bud doesn't have it out for craft breweries any more than they have it out for Coors. Button line is it's business. I own a store, Bud will absolutely make deals to squeeze as much space for their beers as they can. And Coke will do the same thing to invade Pepsi's cooler space. This is how business works. The problem with craft places, many don't want to operate like a business. Russian River won't deal with me because I'm not a cool kid, and they go out of their way to artificially limit the availability of Pliney. That's awesome business practice no?

Craft breweries are growing at an insane rate, we got about 25 new breweries at the store this year alone. Before Bud got involved I had to drive 50 miles to get Goose Island Sofie, which imho is the best beer ever. And the one place that carried it never had much, so I couldn't buy a case and store it. I'd get 2 or 3 if I was lucky. Thank god I don't have to go thru that shit any more to drink a beer a like.

There's plenty of room for everyone who makes good beers to co-exist. I know 100% without Bud being involved I wouldn't be able to buy Space Dust anywhere in my city.
I drink Duet from Alpine, I drink River Runs Rye from Mad River. We have probably 200 different beers, all the breweries seem to be doing fine even though you claim Bud's crushing everything in their path. Bud distributes Golden Road, they'll have to kill me and pry the Wolf Among Weeds can from my cold dead hands.

Business is about survival of the fittest, Apple wants to crush Samsung, Samsung wants to crush Apple. Ford wants to crush Chevy. Even Stone and the smart craft breweries want to be top dog, which ultimately would mean they want to see others fail no? For the record I deal with a Bud rep every week and never once did they tell us to not carry any beer from any one competitor. The most was "we'll give you this nice ass cooler and fill it up for free if you remove this competitors cooler" That's about their extent of what they do. And I have hundreds of hours dealing directly with them. inDev is no more evil than any other successful company. *shrug*

A 30 second search found:

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/...raft-brewers-concerned-over-new-a-b-nbev.html

A new distributors incentive program introduced by Anheuser-Busch InBev last month has craft brewers worried that it could squeeze them off the shelves.

http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...alysis-anheuser-busch-inbev-sa-incentive.aspx

Anheuser-Busch InBev (NYSE:BUD) offered incentives to distributors to be virtually exclusive to its brands,


http://www.wsj.com/articles/craft-brewers-take-issue-with-ab-inbev-distribution-plan-1449227668

Anheuser-Busch InBev NV’s new plan to reverse declining volumes in the U.S.—by rewarding distributors who focus on brands like Budweiser and Bud Light—is raising alarm among craft brewers who worry it will make it harder to get shelf space for their IPAs and porters.

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2015/12/big-beer-wants-take-away-your-craft-beer
At least one distributor has dropped a craft brewer as a result of the incentive program. Deschutes Brewery President Michael Lalonde said Grey Eagle Distributing of St. Louis last week decided it will drop the Oregon brewery behind Mirror Pond Pale Ale because it "had to make a choice to go with the incentive program or stay with craft."


So either you choose to ignore the facts or your just another one of the millennials who only care about what they want and don't care how that happens so long as they can get their beer without to much trouble. How about the people that love Deschutes brews, because of InBevs "incentives" they are now in the the exact same position you lamented being in earlier. Having to drive and call around to find a beer that was, before the bribe, just down the street. The narrow view of; as long as I have what I want how bad can it be, is a sad one. Look around at the impact this will have on smaller breweries, its not good. Unless you wold prefer all telecommunications go back under one Bell corporation.