and it starts: Lieberman wants to halt new nuclear plants

rudeguy

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http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/149173-lieberman-stop-new-nuclear-plants-in-us

Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Chairman Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said the United States should issue a moratorium on any new nuclear power projects in light of the current crises facing Japan.


“I’ve been a big supporter of nuclear power because it’s domestic, it’s ours and it’s clean,” Lieberman said in an interview with “Face the Nation.”

“We’ve had a good safety record with nuclear power plants here in the United States ... I don’t want to stop the building of nuclear power plants, but I think we’ve got to kind of quietly, quickly put the brakes on until we can absorb what has happened in Japan.”

Lieberman noted that only a portion of American nuclear power plants are built “according to designs” that would allow them to withstand major disasters.

“It’s time I think for states to look at their building codes and see whether they want to take preventive action,” he said. “A lot of the old buildings have not been retrofitted.”

Marvin Fertel, president of the Nuclear Energy Institute, disagreed during an appearance on “Meet the Press.”

“All of our power plants are designed to sustain maximum earthquake [damage],” he said.

Well how are people supposed to charge up their Volts now??? Sorry guys, maybe you can strap a windmill to the top of the thing.

Knee jerking at its best.
 

Vette73

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You think thats bad, hes not even running for re-election.
Wait until those that are come forward when asked about nuclear power, esp those running for prez.

Oh and for those that have not kept up the problems they are haing in Japan was not the earthquake but the water that caused them to have issues(taking back up gens off line). In fact sans water the plants would still be ok for the most part.
 

Doppel

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This is no surprise and if things get worse in Japan they'll get worse for the nuclear industry here, which already had a hard time selling its wares.
 

kranky

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We seem to be pretty good at identifying energy sources we don't want (oil, natural gas, nuclear) but not so good at figuring out how to get sufficient energy from the sources we do want.
 

wuliheron

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We seem to be pretty good at identifying energy sources we don't want (oil, natural gas, nuclear) but not so good at figuring out how to get sufficient energy from the sources we do want.


Nobody ever lost money underestimating the average intelligence of the American public.
P.T. Barnum

The US has loads of relatively clean and safe natural gas and people have been proposing we use it decades. There are 100 nuclear power plants in the US and 15,000 natural gas.
 
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Vette73

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Nobody ever lost money underestimating the average intelligence of the American public.
P.T. Barnum

The US has loads of relatively clean and safe natural gas and people have been proposing we use it decades. There are 100 nuclear power plants in the US and 15,000 natural gas.


Yea lets keep using natural gas that way no one can afford to heat their home.
So many power companies have jumped on the NG bandwagon it has caused prices to rise much faster than normal.
Nuclear power is much better over all as NG is better for heat while nuclear could fill in the electrical area.
 

Red Dawn

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It doesn't make sense to build the in geologically unstable areas. If the Japanese can't build them bullet proof what makes you think we can?

Now if they wanted to concentrate them all in areas like West Texas, New Mexico, Nevada and such I don't feel there'd be as big of a risk from natural disasters turning into nuclear disasters.
 

Siddhartha

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake_nuclear_crisis
Stricken Japan nuclear plant rocked by 2nd blast

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110312/wl_asia_afp/japanquakenucleartrouble_20110312225638
Another quake-hit Japan reactor in trouble: operator

Oh yeah, concerns about Nuclear power are groundless and anyone worried about it are Chicken Littles.

I support the use and think the US will eventually have to use nuclear reactor generated energy. But what is happening Japan will affect how and when the implementation is done.
 

umbrella39

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"I don’t want to stop the building of nuclear power plants, but I think we’ve got to kind of quietly, quickly put the brakes on until we can absorb what has happened in Japan.”

Sounds fairly reasonable even for Lieberman. Sounds like a politician talking. Also, it doesn't mean he's right or Fertel is wrong but it should be up for debate at the very least. Not building them near unstable areas is a good start.
 
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Vette73

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"I don’t want to stop the building of nuclear power plants, but I think we’ve got to kind of quietly, quickly put the brakes on until we can absorb what has happened in Japan.”

Sounds fairly reasonable even for Lieberman. Sounds like a politician talking. Also, it doesn't mean he's right or Fertel is wrong but it should be up for debate at the very least. Not building them near unstable areas is a good start.


The debate has been going for decades and has not changed.

We want cheap power but NIMBY. Am I wrong?
 

Fear No Evil

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"I don’t want to stop the building of nuclear power plants, but I think we’ve got to kind of quietly, quickly put the brakes on until we can absorb what has happened in Japan.”

Sounds fairly reasonable even for Lieberman. Sounds like a politician talking. Also, it doesn't mean he's right or Fertel is wrong but it should be up for debate at the very least. Not building them near unstable areas is a good start.

What the fuck have we been doing for the past 30 years we have not been building plants? Put on the brakes? The brakes were put on decades ago. We've long been at a complete stop.

I wonder if there are any studies on how much power liberals use compared to conservatives.. I bet libs use more. Takes a lot of power to charge up that Macbook, iPod, iPhone, and Volt.
 

Red Dawn

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What the fuck have we been doing for the past 30 years we have not been building plants? Put on the brakes? The brakes were put on decades ago. We've long been at a complete stop.

I wonder if there are any studies on how much power liberals use compared to conservatives.. I bet libs use more. Takes a lot of power to charge up that Macbook, iPod, iPhone, and Volt.

Well I bet you conservatives use a lot of power too. An open refrigerator door wastes a lot of energy.
 

Moonbeam

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Life is so fucking cruel. Nuclear disasters keep fucking up nuclear energy. It's just not fair for assholes and pricks willing to create deadly poisons that kill for thousands of years. It's such a shame that ordinary stupid folk now have even more irrational and ridiculous reasons to oppose you.
 
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Life is so fucking cruel. Nuclear disasters keep fucking up nuclear energy. It's just not fair for assholes and pricks willing to create deadly poisons that kill for thousands of years. It's such a shame that ordinary stupid folk now have even more irrational and ridiculous reasons to oppose you.
Yes....it is much more preferable to create and breathe coal power plant poisons every day.
 

wuliheron

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Yea lets keep using natural gas that way no one can afford to heat their home.
So many power companies have jumped on the NG bandwagon it has caused prices to rise much faster than normal.
Nuclear power is much better over all as NG is better for heat while nuclear could fill in the electrical area.


If you think nuclear energy is cheap think again. The reason we stopped building more plants is because the shit is expensive as hell. Since the Soviet Union collapsed we've had access to relatively cheap nuclear fuel, but it still ain't a bargain as energy sources go. We didn't need to pay more, we didn't need more bombs, so we didn't build more plants. You didn't really think a bunch of politicians would let a little thing like public perception get in the way of making a buck did you?
 
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ProfJohn

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Solution... don't build reactors near the ocean or in earthquake prone areas.

BTW the government will probably spend a million dollars on some study and come to the same conclusion.
 

rudeguy

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If you think nuclear energy is cheap think again. The reason we stopped building more plants is because the shit is expensive as hell. Since the Soviet Union collapsed we've had access to relatively cheap nuclear fuel, but it still ain't a bargain as energy sources go. We didn't need to pay more, we didn't need more bombs, so we didn't build more plants. You didn't really think a bunch of politicians would let a little thing like public perception get in the way of making a buck did you?

actually nuclear is cheaper than natural gas
 

Genx87

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Life is so fucking cruel. Nuclear disasters keep fucking up nuclear energy. It's just not fair for assholes and pricks willing to create deadly poisons that kill for thousands of years. It's such a shame that ordinary stupid folk now have even more irrational and ridiculous reasons to oppose you.

Uranium, Thorium, and Plutonium are naturally occurring elements. Damn mother nature and her deadly poison creating ways.
 
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