I agree and they should not be allowed to leave on break holiday etc until the work is done. All of them Democrats and Republicans.
The only response to that that I can come up with is "god bless them". People making the most of a survivable situation and living a good life is, in reality, the american dream. It's in some ways transcendent.Correct. It's half assed decent pay with benefits & it's rock steady. Well, until Trump, of course. I worked as a mechanic for the local transit agency for a long time. Sailed right through the interest rate recession of the early 80's, the S&L crisis, the Tech bust & the great recession of 2008. It was more interesting than being a TSA screener, I'm sure, and it paid better, but they're like people who showed up at the factory to run a punch press for 30 years to feed their families. Do the job. Go home. Get paid & make something out of it. Middle income people can thrive on uninterrupted employment.
2 Bills were passed. Trump and McConnel axed them. This is a Republican problem, and there is absolutely no other way to look at it.
Every shutdown needs to mean every single Congressperson, Executive Branch, everyone = forfeit pay for exactly one year, no medical care, no support, nothing. 1 day shutdown? None of you assholes get a dime for an entire year. The end.
Yeah just shut down commercial passenger air traffic. That’s a great plan that won’t impact anyone else at all.
Look at how many hijackings there were in the late 1960s through the 70s
Are the TSA government employees or contractors? There was talk a few years back that the GOP was going to privatize the system.
I think that was a jab at their complete failure at doing anything other than groping Americans. Seriously. Their failure rates have topped 95% with no proof of a prevented attack. And it's failure rate has been that high for years...
https://www.vox.com/2016/5/17/11687014/tsa-against-airport-security
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/tsa-f...cover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188
https://www.latimes.com/visuals/video/83683514-157.html
And that risk went away long before the TSA existed
Several use private companies due to avoid TSA absurdities (like refusing to increase staff for increases in expected travelers or opening earlier for an increase in early morning departures). San Francisco and Orlando are the largest private security airports and Atlanta was threatening that route if the TSA kept being terrible
The only response to that that I can come up with is "god bless them". People making the most of a survivable situation and living a good life is, in reality, the american dream. It's in some ways transcendent.
Airport security existed long before TSA and that is what lead to the massive decrease in hijackings. The proof that they prevent attacks is the fact that no one has attempted one in a long time, and there has been no successful attack since 9/11. I get annoyed by TSA as much as anyone and fly all the time, but they do accomplish they're goal of preventing attacks on aircraft.I think that was a jab at their complete failure at doing anything other than groping Americans. Seriously. Their failure rates have topped 95% with no proof of a prevented attack. And it's failure rate has been that high for years...
https://www.vox.com/2016/5/17/11687014/tsa-against-airport-security
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/tsa-f...cover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188
https://www.latimes.com/visuals/video/83683514-157.html
And that risk went away long before the TSA existed
Several airports use private companies to avoid TSA absurdities (like refusing to increase staff for increases in expected travelers or opening earlier for an increase in early morning departures). San Francisco and Orlando are the largest private security airports and Atlanta was threatening that route if the TSA kept being terrible
Airport security existed long before TSA and that is what lead to the massive decrease in hijackings. The proof that they prevent attacks is the fact that no one has attempted one in a long time, and there has been no successful attack since 9/11. I get annoyed by TSA as much as anyone and fly all the time, but they do accomplish they're goal of preventing attacks on aircraft.
Private security still had to follow all the same rules as TSA and it is fairly transparent to the public if it is private or TSA. The biggest assholes I've ever dealt with have been at MCO, too.
Good. Nobody should work for free.
Okay but they are actually paid for their time right? Hours are recorded and will be paid once the budget passes - including any overtime from picking up other people's slack due to call outs.
Historically they have been paid, however there is no guarantee that they will be paid for time worked during the shutdown.
If I were a federal employee I’d assume that I’d be reimbursed.
Okay but they are actually paid for their time right? Hours are recorded and will be paid once the budget passes - including any overtime from picking up other people's slack due to call outs.
See previous posts. I'm fairly certain that any employer regardless of it being government by law must pay for any hours worked.MAYBE!
My brother is a US Marshal, after 30 years working for California State parole, he took a part-time job basically babysitting federal prisoners in hospital rooms. He's considered "essential", which means they still expect him to show up for free.
I wonder if that has anything to do with why after he got back from his cruise, he immediately took off to Las Vegas to see his grandchildren, since he's out of state, he can't be ordered to work for free.
If you are by passing security checks as commercial crew, you are violating the law. Just like people with SIDA badges can't use them to bypass security and fly. I've known multiple people busted for this at DFW, including the COO of American Eagle who was arrested and lost his SIDA badge.I don't have to deal with them. I go through a gate on the side, and go straight to my bird. I'm a pilot, and I don't fly unless I fly.
Ah, completely different then.I'm not commercial, I'm private (general aviation). My flight desk isn't even connected to the concourse.
The one upside is..
IRS IS CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!
I can tell you who WON'T be buying Turbotax to file a return this year! View attachment 2216
Unless this government shutdown lasts for more than 7 years, I highly recommend not doing that.
Airport security existed long before TSA and that is what lead to the massive decrease in hijackings.
The proof that they prevent attacks is the fact that no one has attempted one in a long time, and there has been no successful attack since 9/11.
Private security still had to follow all the same rules as TSA and it is fairly transparent to the public if it is private or TSA. The biggest assholes I've ever dealt with have been at MCO, too.
Right so the TSA added no value there
That's false reasoning. Absence of something doesn't mean it was prevented or discouraged. And it is well known that the TSA fails 90+% of the time so the statistical chance a terrorist makes it through is quite high. 9/11 style attacks can no longer happen because of aircraft changes and procedures (cockpit door hardening) Not because the TSA stops 10% of bombs and firearms going through their checkpoints
If you read the links I posted even a government study found private security to be more efficient and friendly.
And let's not forget things like the quiet skies program which had air Marshall's follow you if you looked at the gate, boarded late or slept on the plane:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...ero-threats/dsCm4BG3pq8v3xhi01zhLI/story.html
Or the secret watch list they put you on if your were rude to them or waited near security screening
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/us/politics/new-watch-list-tsa-screeners-.html
Or their unscientific, rascit profiling tactics:
https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-...w-documents-show-tsa-program-blamed-profiling
I could go on about and on but you feel safer despite the mountain of evidence they are ineffective so I guess that validates molestation, racism, search and seizures, etc etc that they bring (27,000 of the 55,000 agents have had complaints registered against them.)
My brother is a US Marshal