And this is why a large thin aluminum phone is a really terrible idea - *Bend-Gate*

[purbeast0]

so let me get it straight, the iPhone 5S is the perfect size. However, since there is a new(er) iPhone, you got to have the new one instead. Even though there is no hardware/software upgrade from any practical point of view.

i came from an iphone 4. an ip6 is a huge upgrade over that. way to make assumptions though.

 

[openwheel]

i came from an iphone 4. an ip6 is a huge upgrade over that. way to make assumptions though.

Apple 5S is still for sale for another year, and it is the "perfect size".
Not only is it the perfect size, it is cheaper. So win-win. No?

I find it difficult to understand. If I were to walk into Apple store with my iPhone 4, and I see the perfect iPhone 5S. Why would I get the 6 at a premium price?

 

[AznAnarchy99]

as an owner of an ip6 (after returning the ip6+ because it was way too big), i'd still say that the ip5 may be the perfect size. i like the ip6 size and the screen, but the ip5 is still more comfortable to use for me and i like the smaller size of it. it's still not as comfortable to use with 1 hand like the ip5 was. but this still may be just that i'm not fully used to it after 2 weeks with it.

Bleh. I was instantly used to the size of the iPhone 6 because I was a former Galaxy Nexus user. I had to make a phone call from my friend's iPhone 5 and it looked ridiculously tiny for me.

Anyways, since I dropped my phone and broke the camera glass, it is covered under American Express' purchase protection warranty. They will be replacing my phone for me

 

[Chocu1a]

Bleh. I was instantly used to the size of the iPhone 6 because I was a former Galaxy Nexus user. I had to make a phone call from my friend's iPhone 5 and it looked ridiculously tiny for me.

Anyways, since I dropped my phone and broke the camera glass, it is covered under American Express' purchase protection warranty. They will be replacing my phone for me

While I find the looks of the iPhone pleasing , the raised lens on the back is horrible design. Just begging for destruction

 

[purbeast0]

Apple 5S is still for sale for another year, and it is the "perfect size".
Not only is it the perfect size, it is cheaper. So win-win. No?

I find it difficult to understand. If I were to walk into Apple store with my iPhone 4, and I see the perfect iPhone 5S. Why would I get the 6 at a premium price?

because i got the ip6 before using it, and i'm giving it a chance to use. i have been able to use an ip5 for the past 2 years since my wife has one, so i'm just used to it. gotta give the ip6 some time to see exactly how i like it.

and i disagree that the ip6 is not an 'upgrade' over the 5s. just because you keep saying it it isn't doesn't make it true.

also since i develop for ios, it's nice to have different physical hardware to test apps out on.

your problem is that you assume everyone's needs are exactly what your needs are, but that simply isn't the case.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

While I find the looks of the iPhone pleasing , the raised lens on the back is horrible design. Just begging for destruction

Yes it is. It was one drop flat on the back. The aluminum was fine. A nick here and there but the lens was completely shattered.

 

[openwheel]

because i got the ip6 before using it, and i'm giving it a chance to use. i have been able to use an ip5 for the past 2 years since my wife has one, so i'm just used to it. gotta give the ip6 some time to see exactly how i like it.

and i disagree that the ip6 is not an 'upgrade' over the 5s. just because you keep saying it it isn't doesn't make it true.

also since i develop for ios, it's nice to have different physical hardware to test apps out on.

your problem is that you assume everyone's needs are exactly what your needs are, but that simply isn't the case.

Curious, what upgrades do you find appealing from 5S to 6? So appealing that you are willing to skip the perfectly sized phone that is the 5S.

 

[HN]

Curious, what upgrades do you find appealing from 5S to 6? So appealing that you are willing to skip the perfectly sized phone that is the 5S.

this is relevant to that point

also since i develop for ios, it's nice to have different physical hardware to test apps out on.

 

[openwheel]

So the upgrade is the change of resolution for app developing purposes.

 

[purbeast0]

Curious, what upgrades do you find appealing from 5S to 6? So appealing that you are willing to skip the perfectly sized phone that is the 5S.

screen resolution and size, camera, cpu upgrade. i guess you missed the part where i said i develop for ios and would like to have a physical device to test out on too, but it makes sense you ignored that because it doesn't fit your agenda.

development is also the only reason i purchased a physical android device too, since the android emulator is pure garbage. the ios simulator is actually very good, but mocking stuff with key clicks and seeing it blown up on a computer screen isn't the same as the physical device, and just not as quickly.

i also said the ip5 "may be the perfect size" based on only a limited time with the 6 compared to the 5. but again, you just want to ignore that since it doesn't fit your agenda either.

can you please get off my dick now? thanks.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

^

The guy is clearly being a troll with his questions. Oh so you don't like the 5s? What happened to the perfect size? Oh so you want a 6 for development? It must be because iOS has a pathetic resolution scaling issue.

Yes, hammer home on all the negatives. I could probably do the same. Oh so you want to upgrade from the Moto X? What happened to all that talk about how quad core is overrated and dual core is the way to go for power savings? Oh so you're moving away from Samsung? Must be that god awful TouchWiz, and NOT the awesome battery life of the Z3.

I'm an owner of the 5 and looking forward to the 6. Let's be honest, most reasonable people would love to upgrade if given the chance.

 

[WelshBloke]

Oh so you want to upgrade from the Moto X? What happened to all that talk about how quad core is overrated and dual core is the way to go for power savings? Oh so you're moving away from Samsung? Must be that god awful TouchWiz, and NOT the awesome battery life of the Z3.

Those analogies don't really stand.

It would if someone was like "TouchWiz is perfect, plain android is so dull. Samsung is just the best because of this".

*Samsung dumps TouchWiz and now only uses AOSP*

"Samsung rock, AOSP is just the best and Samsung just do it better than everyone else. ".


But yeah, he be trollin' hard.

 

[openwheel]

Let's face it, there will always be an excuse to get an iPhone. Whether it's the perfect size, the most beautiful hipster gadget, app developer companion, or simply to massage one's ego. The perfectly sized iPhone, as we all know, is decided by the size of the most current iPhone. We are simply making fun of Apple's old iPhone 5 ad claiming it as the perfectly sized phone. I'll look it up and post it.

DLeRium, being the most active Apple advocate on this forum, must you get all worked up for anything negative on Apple? I have no idea why you referenced MotoX/quadcore/Touchwiz, but you clearly have issues.

 

[openwheel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlRyYOQVR-U

found it.

 

[Mopetar]

The perfectly sized iPhone, as we all know, is decided by the size of the most current iPhone.

That's a matter of opinion, not one of fact, and one that several people on the forums have disagreed with as there are some people who did prefer the 4" size rather than the 4.7" or the 5.5" sizes, just as there were plenty of people who were exceedingly glad when phones started to get bigger than 4" screens because that was something that they actually wanted.

It almost seems like you're erecting some imaginary staw-hipster. Do you really expect an ad from any company to suggest that they product it is selling isn't ideal or perfect? It's hardly unique in the history of Apple either as Jobs would say all kinds of features were pointless or unnecessary before unveiling some product that contained them the next.

Of course every new iPhone is going to be the "best iPhone ever" just like every new Galaxy phone is the "best Galaxy phone ever" and every new Lumia is the "best Lumia ever" because that's how marketing works. Even if it weren't for some set of subjective measurements, those would hardly matter anymore because it's marketing. Its purpose is to attempt to modify reality to fit whatever it is they're selling, not to admit that it might that the product isn't perfect.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Let's face it, there will always be an excuse to get an iPhone. Whether it's the perfect size, the most beautiful hipster gadget, app developer companion, or simply to massage one's ego. The perfectly sized iPhone, as we all know, is decided by the size of the most current iPhone. We are simply making fun of Apple's old iPhone 5 ad claiming it as the perfectly sized phone. I'll look it up and post it.

DLeRium, being the most active Apple advocate on this forum, must you get all worked up for anything negative on Apple? I have no idea why you referenced MotoX/quadcore/Touchwiz, but you clearly have issues.

So purbeast0 said that he finds the iPhone 5/5s to be the perfect size compared to another phone. The fact is openwheel wants to jump on that because he knows the iPhone changed sizes this year. I think over the years after many upgrades and iterations, many people, Android and iPhone fans alike have said "Ah this is the perfect ____." Maybe after a drastic improvement, bump in screen size, or whatever spec improvement. It's more like a statement like "Ah this is a good place to be" but it doesn't mean that it holds true forever... kinda like the infamous 640kb RAM comment. You can always seek to improve.

Furthermore, no phone today is a perfect size anyway. If we all could put down on paper what is the perfect phone and you could get what you wish for, I bet you'd get billions of combinations. So essentially any phone you buy today is a compromise. No, you can't get a 5.1" phone, so you settle with a 5.2" phone. No you can't just pick and choose your components, so you get some phone that's closest to your preference To openwheel, that's clearly enough to get on someone's case.

I've said the OnePlus One is too big for me and for my hands the N4 or N5 are probably the perfect size. But because I value other features such as good battery life, a better camera, I decided to take the leap over my Nexus 5. I accept that I gave up ergonomics and wireless charging, but to me that's an acceptable trade off.

Even if someone finds the iPhone 5 to be a perfect size, they upgrade to the 6 in the end not because the 6 is the new perfect size, but likely because there's a whole set of other features that are worth upgrading for. But big deal?

And its not that I get worked up about anything negative about Apple. I'm all for an open discussion about the bendgate issue, but when you and your fellow fans are here just to slander Apple with zero intention of investigating issues for technical purposes (this is Anandtech Forums, not CNN comments), then yes, it does become an issue. But its not just Apple I'm concerned about, it's any tech company. Biased troll posts like yours whether its against Apple, Samsung, Google, Facebook, Yahoo don't belong here.

 

[purbeast0]

well i actually never said it is the perfect size ... i said it may be the perfect size for me after using the ip6 for a couple weeks, but i couldn't really come to that conclusion just yet because it has only been 2 weeks.

but he wanted to jump on that because apparently only the physical phone size is the only valid reason one is allowed to upgrade according to him. other reasons are moot (according to him).

 

[Accord99]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlRyYOQVR-U

found it.

I always found that ad misleading since pretty much nobody holds their smartphone like that, virtually everybody holds the bottom part of the phone.

Plus, even ad thumb can't reach the button without discretely shifting the placement of the hand, at which point it can no longer reach the top of the display.

 

[WelshBloke]

I always found that ad misleading since pretty much nobody holds their smartphone like that, virtually everybody holds the bottom part of the phone.

Plus, even ad thumb can't reach the button without discretely shifting the placement of the hand, at which point it can no longer reach the top of the display.

That's the point though isn't it?

There's no one perfect size, like there's no one perfect pixel density, or one perfect case material, etc

It's something pick up on to validate a decision that they have already made.

Apple just have an annoying tendency to run with the idea and say that their way is the only correct way. Then we end up with people arguing that there's some scientific basis that their personal preferences are superior.

 

[RaulF]

So i finally got to see and play for a few minutes with a 6+.

Thumb up.

 

[blankslate]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaQsXJ5NtnA

Get a case or baby your iPhone 6+ then barring any serious accidents it'll be fine.


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[Geekbabe]

I've had the 6 Plus since release. It's in a clear Spigen case but I don't particularly baby it, it lives in a jacket pocket or in the front pockets of my pants. It hasn't bent, not even a little. Looking forward to returning to android with the Galaxy Note 4 in a few days but I can't speak badly about this iphone.

 

[Tom]

I always found that ad misleading since pretty much nobody holds their smartphone like that, virtually everybody holds the bottom part of the phone.

Plus, even ad thumb can't reach the button without discretely shifting the placement of the hand, at which point it can no longer reach the top of the display.

I hold my phone like that. I've never encountered a person who holds the bottom of a phone.

 

[blankslate]

I've had the 6 Plus since release. It's in a clear Spigen case but I don't particularly baby it, it lives in a jacket pocket or in the front pockets of my pants. It hasn't bent, not even a little. Looking forward to returning to android with the Galaxy Note 4 in a few days but I can't speak badly about this iphone.

Another video by the same person who did the video in my previous post showed that a quality case with a bit of rigidity will pretty much mitigate any accidental bending that may occur.

I would consider keeping a phone in a case and not carrying it around in the back pocket babying it compared to carrying one without a case.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Ifixit crew tears down an Iphone 6+ S (or whatever they call v2 of the phone) and finds that the issue with the reinforcement near the volume buttons has been quietly fixed.

As for the Note 4. it's nicer to the touch than the Note 3 but it bends a bit more noticeably (although it still holds up rather well) than the Note 3 under the hulkman's "fake tests".


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[Accord99]

I hold my phone like that. I've never encountered a person who holds the bottom of a phone.

Are you saying you hold your phone like the left grip:

A grip for many people, would not allow them to reach the button? I say that virtually everybody holds their phone more like the right grip position, which allows them to reach the button but not allow them to reach the top of the display without adjusting the grip. In fact, even the right grip is too high up, but done out of necessity to not make the ad blatantly misleading.

Look at other Apple commercials:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv9U_ieLdL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MP6QGLTZ1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y-PON19un8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgvp9xhbh6Q

Even in the 3GS and 4S ads, everyone grips their phone in the bottom half.