And this is why the Union is in danger.

waggy

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oh my god that has to be a setup. someone can't be that fucking stupid.
 

Lemon law

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Granted, the girl on welfare was a total idiot, but sadly, that does not elevate Micheal Savage in any way. And all it tells us is that Savage is slightly smarter than a total idiot.

Nor did the clip show anything about why Savage support's the Arizona law. A bone of contention that can be argued quite rationally either way. And since three entities have already filed suit against the Arizona law and the US Justice department will likely follow,
its no longer a subject for talk show hosts or politicians, as the courts will have the final word.

And its also possible that Savage faked the whole encounter, just for red raw meat for his devoted followers to eat right up.
 

Jhhnn

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Uhh, no. That's not why the Union is in danger. It's in danger because some people think Jerry Springer, Pro Wrestling, and the caller in question are *real*...
 

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Uhh, no. That's not why the Union is in danger. It's in danger because some people think Jerry Springer, Pro Wrestling, and the caller in question are *real*...

You are forgetting a sense of entitlement to other people's stuff. That's probably the biggest cultural burden we bear, ATM.
 

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Granted, the girl on welfare was a total idiot, but sadly, that does not elevate Micheal Savage in any way. And all it tells us is that Savage is slightly smarter than a total idiot.

Nor did the clip show anything about why Savage support's the Arizona law. A bone of contention that can be argued quite rationally either way. And since three entities have already filed suit against the Arizona law and the US Justice department will likely follow,
its no longer a subject for talk show hosts or politicians, as the courts will have the final word.

And its also possible that Savage faked the whole encounter, just for red raw meat for his devoted followers to eat right up.


It's possible that it was faked of course, and Savage doesn't impress me in the least, quite the reverse.

Unfortunately while she's an extreme example, she's not alone. There are far too many people who are clueless.
 

Lemon law

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No, I 100% endorse the HayaBausa Rider thread topic of, "And this is why the Union is in danger."

Yep its true folks, this nation is endangered because we have too many political talk radio show. And we get the dumbing down of America as a result. We used to get our news from newspapers where reporters by in large reported all sides of the story, pro and con. And even when we got an editorial opinion, it was labeled an opinion with the editorial writer being somewhat required to show why the pro's outweighed the con's.
 

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No, I 100% endorse the HayaBausa Rider thread topic of, "And this is why the Union is in danger."

Yep its true folks, this nation is endangered because we have too many political talk radio show. And we get the dumbing down of America as a result. We used to get our news from newspapers where reporters by in large reported all sides of the story, pro and con. And even when we got an editorial opinion, it was labeled an opinion with the editorial writer being somewhat required to show why the pro's outweighed the con's.

You sound related to the person on the clip.
 

Perknose

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Haya, why were you listening to Michael Savage?
 

waggy

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Uhh, no. That's not why the Union is in danger. It's in danger because some people think Jerry Springer, Pro Wrestling, and the caller in question are *real*...

wait...your saying pro wrestling at real!? fuck you ! ITS REAL IT IS I TELL YOU!


/sobs
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Haya, why were you listening to Michael Savage?


I don't. I found the link in another forum and it was so mindbogglingly stupid I thought it's post it. It's like a train wreck. Not pretty in the least, but hard to turn away from.

As a rule I don't listen to talk radio. Been a couple years at least.
 

Lemon law

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That caller sounded obviously fake to me.
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We maybe should also examine the Mani contention, even though I made the same argument
while Mani was posting, Mani published first and thus wins the honor.

But if we listen to her, she can rapidly string a pile of words together using almost perfect diction and English grammar. Not a trait that is usually associated with or describes your average total unthinking and totally ignorant twit.

And that fact led me to conclude, "That caller obviously fake to me"

But as we all already know from the Rush Limbaugh show, if just ONE opponent of that Arizona law is wrong and makes false assumptions, every single other opponent of the Arizona law is equally wrong, equally illogical, and we can safely conclude the Arizona Law is so totally constitutional.
 

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But as we all already know from the Rush Limbaugh show, if just ONE opponent of that Arizona law is wrong and makes false assumptions, every single other opponent of the Arizona law is equally wrong, equally illogical, and we can safely conclude the Arizona Law is so totally constitutional.

This is what is so dangerous about clips like this. There's absolutely no way to verify the source, see if it was a fake (which it clearly was), yet this one clip will send thousands of people into a tizzy about how this must represent the thinking of everyone who is against the Arizona law. Guys like Limbaugh are experts at taking single extreme examples like this and extrapolating them to represent everyone on the side of an issue, and his listeners buy it hook line and sinker.
 

Jhhnn

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I'm sure it's all over the rightwing net-o-sphere sending the usual suspects to raving about entitlements, soshulists, writing to the state of Hawaii demanding a copy of Obama's birth certificate, all the usual... re-scrunched their panties into a nice tight wad, so they're good to go...
 

Perknose

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I don't. I found the link in another forum . . .

What forum, Rich? Freerepublic.com?

Troll crap like this is usually only posted by people eager to reinforce their own extreme, insecure partisan viewpoint.

It is either dishonestly staged or a cherry-picked anecdotal extreme which proves NO legitimate point beyond its own sad existence, unless you are desperately predisposed to want it to.

Now, if it were the statement of a national political figure such as Sarah Palin or Nancy Pelosi, it would be relevant and fair game, but what you posted is simply either a throwaway piece of anecdotal detritus, or a cynically staged lie.
 

Lemon law

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Unlike HayaBausa Rider, I freely admit I semi regularly listen to Rush Limbaugh. He is actually a very educating fellow, a teacher of logic, that can help all of us to sharpen our minds.

Because just a quick listen to Rush Limbaugh does not much challenge me to find about a thousand reasons to conclude Rush logic is a contradiction in terms and sharpens my mind in finding all the illogical.

Of course the righty tighty partisan answer is that I may be too democratically partisan, but they ignore the fact that I apply my same logic against many other democrats using the same illogical reasoning.

Being exposed to too propaganda has been almost all of our lives story. Learning to reject false logic is something we can all learn and enhance. It takes effort and a learning curve. Hiding from propaganda is not a route to debunk propaganda.
 

Jhhnn

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It is either dishonestly staged or a cherry-picked anecdotal extreme which proves NO legitimate point beyond its own sad existence, unless you are desperately predisposed to want it to.

There you have it- it's a function of denial, just about the only thing remaining for rightwing pundits to exploit... the conditioned gullibility and stubborn pride of their audience.
 
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