Andrew Luck vs RG3

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glenn1

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this thread really has multi-season potential like the adlep fusion thread.

RG3 being benched is probably the best thing that could happen for eits, since RG3 will be safe that way while there's a chance Luck could suffer a Joe Theismann style career ending injury thus giving him a chance to say "aha, told you the guy was a bum!"
 

IndyColtsFan

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He isn't.

I don't expect you to recognize that, though, because you don't have working knowledge of finding strengths or deficiencies in a player's biomechanics.

Players who play like RGIII are injury-prone, no matter how many times you want to deny it. They expose themselves to unnecessary risks and take hits they shouldn't take.
 

eits

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RG3 being benched is probably the best thing that could happen for eits, since RG3 will be safe that way while there's a chance Luck could suffer a Joe Theismann style career ending injury thus giving him a chance to say "aha, told you the guy was a bum!"

Did you read a fucking thing I wrote recently?
 

eits

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AGAIN, no one is debating that RG3 isn't having a disappointing season and not living up to his potential. You haven't proven anything.

Luck, however, is overrated and can't be effectively evaluated yet, even after 3 years, because of his easy as hell schedules, year after year after year. Not until he has a more difficult schedule would we be able to say for sure whether he's as good as many people think he is or if he's just better than average.
 

IndyColtsFan

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AGAIN, no one is debating that RG3 isn't having a disappointing season and not living up to his potential. You haven't proven anything.

Luck, however, is overrated and can't be effectively evaluated yet, even after 3 years, because of his easy as hell schedules, year after year after year. Not until he has a more difficult schedule would we be able to say for sure whether he's as good as many people think he is or if he's just better than average.

Luck >>> RG3. Case closed.
 

Genx87

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AGAIN, no one is debating that RG3 isn't having a disappointing season and not living up to his potential. You haven't proven anything.

Luck, however, is overrated and can't be effectively evaluated yet, even after 3 years, because of his easy as hell schedules, year after year after year. Not until he has a more difficult schedule would we be able to say for sure whether he's as good as many people think he is or if he's just better than average.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Luck overrated. His team isn't really very good yet is setting numbers that are Elway, Marino, and Brady like.
 

smackababy

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AGAIN, no one is debating that RG3 isn't having a disappointing season and not living up to his potential. You haven't proven anything.

Luck, however, is overrated and can't be effectively evaluated yet, even after 3 years, because of his easy as hell schedules, year after year after year. Not until he has a more difficult schedule would we be able to say for sure whether he's as good as many people think he is or if he's just better than average.

So, if Luck can't be effectively evaluated yet, wtf can we say about RG3? He did good in a division whose second strongest competition was 8-8? Luck has been to the playoffs. He has beaten winning teams. He has lost to good teams as well. But, he hasn't gotten benched for being terrible and he hasn't gotten hurt from being a mobile QB. What he has done is take a team with zero run game (if Luck had Morris in the backfield, they'd be so much better off) and very little of anything else (we criticized stone hands Heyward-Bey, but the rest of the Colts have the same affliction, maybe it is contagious?) and still managed to make playoff runs. He beat KC nearly on his own. He turned around a team that could barely scrape together a single win without PFM. What exactly has RG3 done? He made a Subway commercial...


Even with that said, I don't think RG3 is a bust, at least, not yet. He has all the tools and if he can find a coach that can coach him (Gruden can't, let's face it), he could be a great player in the future. He would fit in very well in Chip Kelly's offense, IMO. He is actually very good at making short throws (his inflated completion rate stands a testament of that) and he can move when he needs to. If he can get his footwork down, his cannon arm can be useful.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Luck overrated. His team isn't really very good yet is setting numbers that are Elway, Marino, and Brady like.

The Colts suck -- trust me, I watch them every week. Without Luck they'd probably win 2 games.
 

smackababy

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The Colts suck -- trust me, I watch them every week. Without Luck they'd probably win 2 games.

Yep. They'd split games with Tennessee and Jacksonville.

In their defense, they are trying to get some run game. Making the move for Trent, while not working out, was at least something.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Yep. They'd split games with Tennessee and Jacksonville.

In their defense, they are trying to get some run game. Making the move for Trent, while not working out, was at least something.

They refuse to address their offensive line woes, preferring to sign journeymen. In yesterday's game, the entire right side of the line was new. They won't go anywhere without addressing those problems.
 

eits

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Yep. They'd split games with Tennessee and Jacksonville.

In their defense, they are trying to get some run game. Making the move for Trent, while not working out, was at least something.

It was something dumb. Richardson was always overrated. I never understood why he was always ranked so highly in fantasy football drafts.

The Browns have been making brilliant moves overall, except for drafting Manziel. Everyone knew his little was overrated as hell. I bet next year, they will battle with the Steelers for the division.
 
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Pulsar

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AGAIN, no one is debating that RG3 isn't having a disappointing season and not living up to his potential. You haven't proven anything.

Luck, however, is overrated and can't be effectively evaluated yet, even after 3 years, because of his easy as hell schedules, year after year after year. Not until he has a more difficult schedule would we be able to say for sure whether he's as good as many people think he is or if he's just better than average.

I was led here from the pwnage of the year thread, and I have to say you're making a pretty strong case for being the winner.

Truthfully, reading your posts takes me back to the days of rabid and willfully blind Tim Tebow fans.

Luck overrated? *snicker* Matthew Stafford is over rated. Luck is a damn good QB.
 

zinfamous

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Russell Wilson's career will be worthless in the next two seasons. He will not stand the test of time.

Andrew Luck is kinda like Ben Roethlisberger. He's good... not THAT good, but good enough if he has a good enough team around him. RG3 is like Steve Young... smart as hell, great arm and accuracy, and mobile, but not immune to injuries.

I gotta do it a 3rd...shit, I dunno, 5th time?

I gotta quote this again.

sorry, bro.


Russell Wilson was paid 1/10th of what RG3 was paid this year (~$526,217 vs $5.1mill) and is officially valued (by beloved patriot idiocy--you know, all those draft pics they gave up) at, shit...I dunno, 1/1000th? of the value of RG3. How do you calculate selling your future for one dude? Let's go with 1/1000th. that seems fair.


How many Superbowls and conference championships and such does RG3 have?
 
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Scarpozzi

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Yep. They'd split games with Tennessee and Jacksonville.

In their defense, they are trying to get some run game. Making the move for Trent, while not working out, was at least something.
They had more of a run game with Peyton and Saturday in there. A veteran center and QB doing defense reads at the line and calling audibles gives the backs a better chance at making a 3+ yard gain. Peyton used to always call audibles when he could tell a run blitz was coming. Jeff Saturday was good at calling blocks at the line and telling the guards to help create the running lanes when the linebackers were moving up.

It's a totally different team without those two. Luck may never be as effective as they were to help the run game, but he definitely has a good long ball and typically makes good throws. I was happy to see him fail on Sunday. I'm a Titans fan....and Good for Romo...it's about time he had a good December.
 

Regs

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AGAIN, no one is debating that RG3 isn't having a disappointing season and not living up to his potential. You haven't proven anything.

Luck, however, is overrated and can't be effectively evaluated yet, even after 3 years, because of his easy as hell schedules, year after year after year. Not until he has a more difficult schedule would we be able to say for sure whether he's as good as many people think he is or if he's just better than average.

If he did not prove anything, then what is the argument here? You beat the teams that you are suppose to beat. There are many teams that can't do that. Redskins haven't beaten anything this year but themselves. Good QB's elevate their teams. Andrew Luck has been getting the Cults wins. That's all that matters.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Titan's are on the upswing! They finally got rid of Chris "Got half my career yards in one season" Johnson and now are looking at Cutlet!

Whisenhunt will effectively be signing his termination notice if he convinces the Titans to sign Cutler.
 

manimal

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Whisenhunt will effectively be signing his termination notice if he convinces the Titans to sign Cutler.

please please please please please please sign cutlet

Now Cutler has almost 30 career TDs against the Vikings so he will probably have a good game for the last of the season making him all the more enticing for good defensive teams.


Really when you look at his numbers Luck only has 4 fewer INTs and 2 fewer fumbles right?

ps I know luck is awesome but im trying to convince Whisenhunt in case he reads this
 
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