It's funny that you sat that, because I think Andrew Luck is just like Matt Stafford.
I was led here from the pwnage of the year thread, and I have to say you're making a pretty strong case for being the winner.
Truthfully, reading your posts takes me back to the days of rabid and willfully blind Tim Tebow fans.
Luck overrated? *snicker* Matthew Stafford is over rated. Luck is a damn good QB.
I gotta do it a 3rd...shit, I dunno, 5th time?
I gotta quote this again.
sorry, bro.
Russell Wilson was paid 1/10th of what RG3 was paid this year (~$526,217 vs $5.1mill) and is officially valued (by beloved patriot idiocy--you know, all those draft pics they gave up) at, shit...I dunno, 1/1000th? of the value of RG3. How do you calculate selling your future for one dude? Let's go with 1/1000th. that seems fair.
How many Superbowls and conference championships and such does RG3 have?
If he did not prove anything, then what is the argument here? You beat the teams that you are suppose to beat. There are many teams that can't do that. Redskins haven't beaten anything this year but themselves. Good QB's elevate their teams. Andrew Luck has been getting the Cults wins. That's all that matters.
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/10/27/andrew-luck-struggles-to-be-great/#
Pay close attention to the last paragraph.
That's what I'm trying to say, but all you people are hearing is that I'm saying that Andrew Luck sucks, which he doesn't. He just hasn't proven himself to be as good as everyone claims he is.
Wilson > Luck > > > RG3 up to this point. I think RG3 has the physical tools to be as good as Wilson, but I don't see it ever happening as his attitude and what seems to be unwavering support from Redskins ownership will never allow him to push himself.
That's what I'm trying to say, but all you people are hearing is that I'm saying that Andrew Luck sucks, which he doesn't. He just hasn't proven himself to be as good as everyone claims he is.
It's funny that you sat that, because I think Andrew Luck is just like Matt Stafford.
My impression of RG3 and Luck comparison is that RG3 isn't as big and tough, and probably as smart as Luck. Injuries have been taking their toll on RG3.
I don't think intelligence has anything to do with it. He had a 3.7 at Baylor. His problems do seem mental though. He built himself up marketing wise like the Lebron James of the NFL, but now he can't back it up due to the injuries. And the situation with both head coaches and the Kirk Cousins thing. His only chance is to leave Washington and start over, but more than likely he's already done.
It wasn't so much him building the hype though. Washington bet the farm on him, and even if he was the second coming of PFM, that is hardly worth it. Washington lost a ton to get RG3 and that meant they couldn't continue to build around him. And, with the coaching the way it is, who knows what is going to happen. Revolving door HC organizations don't do well.
I think if you put RG3 on a decent team with a good coaching staff, he would do fine. Putting him into a position where he is the savior of the city, as a rookie, and then doing nothing to further that team is good for nobodies career.
Cam Newton had pretty much the opposite start. He was brought in to a terrible team with the expectation that it would take time to build around him. He is being used poorly (making him run is going to kill his career), but he has been given a chance to develop and humble. RG3 needs that.
It's funny that you sat that, because I think Andrew Luck is just like Matt Stafford.
Yeah, they gave up too much to get him, which also adds to the pressure to be elite. He was good that first year...better than Luck. Without his speed he will never be that again though.
I don't think intelligence has anything to do with it. He had a 3.7 at Baylor. His problems do seem mental though. He built himself up marketing wise like the Lebron James of the NFL, but now he can't back it up due to the injuries. And the situation with both head coaches and the Kirk Cousins thing. His only chance is to leave Washington and start over, but more than likely he's already done.
As I said back then, Luck ran a more complex offense than RGIII. RGIII ran a lot of read option and tossed short and intermediate passes. Bruce Arians' offense in Indy was much, much, MUCH more complex. Every time I brought this up, people started in with excuses and, quite frankly, lies like the following:
"Uh, RGIII ISN'T a running QB!!!! He doesn't run unless he absolutely has to!!!!"
That was an outright lie that people here spouted repeatedly -- every Redskins game I saw had him run the read option several times along with other DESIGNED run plays. Want to see someone who runs when he absolutely has no other choice? See: Andrew Luck.
"RGIII is an awesome pocket passer!"
I don't even need to attempt to poke holes in that one. They're obvious enough.
"RGIII's injury affects his passing!"
My favorite was last year, towards the end of the year, RGIII played a game and ran all over the field MANY times and also had some passing success. The very next week, he stunk it up big time and the RGIII jockriders blamed his injury from the previous year. LOL!
RG3 had a problem with him not getting the development he really needed coming into the league, because he was winning. They let his flaws go.
Ok, let's get down to the nitty gritty here. Answer this question:
Is Andrew Luck better than RG3?
P.S. The author of that article is a moron.
Currently, without question. You can't say it for sure, though, because neither of them have shown you what they're fully capable of. So, for now, absolutely, Luck is better than RG3, without a doubt. I'm interested in seeing how it all plays out, though.
Luck is not as good as he is given credit for, yet. That's why I say he's overrated. He hasn't shown you what he can or can't do; give him an average to hard schedule and then see what's up.
RG3 needs better coaching and trainers. No one on the Redskins has shown great coaching and training... Does that mean everyone on the Redskins is a bum? No, it means that they coaching and training staff blows goats and there must invest in quality trainers and coaches if they expect to win and keep players healthy.
Currently, without question. You can't say it for sure, though, because neither of them have shown you what they're fully capable of. So, for now, absolutely, Luck is better than RG3, without a doubt. I'm interested in seeing how it all plays out, though.
Luck is not as good as he is given credit for, yet. That's why I say he's overrated. He hasn't shown you what he can or can't do; give him an average to hard schedule and then see what's up.
RG3 needs better coaching and trainers. No one on the Redskins has shown great coaching and training... Does that mean everyone on the Redskins is a bum? No, it means that they coaching and training staff blows goats and there must invest in quality trainers and coaches if they expect to win and keep players healthy.
You do realize Indy's strength of schedule is pretty much right in the middle of the division right? It is just under NE's. Is Tom Brady a bum because he hasn't played against a SOS as high as Denver?
And, RG3's SOS is much lower than Luck's.