Andrew Luck vs RG3

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purbeast0

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Why would it be a surprise? They're playing the Bengals. They beat them earlier this season, and they're favored to win. You know what would be a surprise? If the Colts beat the Bills this week.

it would surprise him because andrew luck is worse than rg3, and rg3's team is 4-12 this year.

duh.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Why would it be a surprise? They're playing the Bengals. They beat them earlier this season, and they're favored to win. You know what would be a surprise? If the Colts beat the Bills this week.

I won't be surprised at either outcome, but the Colts haven't played well for several weeks and I have no confidence in them. They SHOULD win and very well might, but they won't go any further unless a miracle happens. All things equal and with both teams healthy, I do think the Colts are the better team.

I'm really tired of the Grigson/Pagano period of stagnation.
 
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mvbighead

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Because the Colts have become a completely one-dimensional team and they have a weaker defense than the Bengals. I think the Bengals will be able to pick the Colts apart.

Without AJ Green? They're other receivers are compliments. Dalton was 18/38 for just over 100 yards in their last meeting against the Colts, but this time... yeah, this time he's going to pick them apart???

Bout the only thing to be concerned with this go around is their running game. As for the Colts being one dimensional... they more or less have been for the past 2-3 years on offense. Running the ball can do wonders do keep your QB from getting demolished, but come playoff time, they ought to pull out all the stops. And with sub 4 yards per carry, they shouldn't have much choice.

But beyond Hill, nothing about the Bengals offense is truly all that scary. They could play a good game today, but I just don't so an X factor other than Hill.
 

eits

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Andrew Luck is damn good. There were a couple throws he made that were definitely brilliant. I didn't know that the Colts lead the league with the most dropped catches. That plays a role in the stats as to why Luck gets some of his interceptions and mediocre accuracy numbers.

I may have been wrong about him. He has definitely improved with each year.
 
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kn51

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WOW, that was a pass -- scrambling, a Bengal draped around him, and he throws a long TD strike.

Just imagine if he had more potential. As a life long Colts fan watching my team in the playoffs, I wonder what would have happened if we drafted correctly.

Oh wait, guess we did choose the right pick.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Just imagine if he had more potential. As a life long Colts fan watching my team in the playoffs, I wonder what would have happened if we drafted correctly.

Oh wait, guess we did choose the right pick.

:awe: :thumbsup:
 

purbeast0

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didnt realize this went from the eits ownage thread to the wildcard weekend playoff thread!
 

eits

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That TD pass by Luck as he was tackled was a thing of beauty. He definitely has a stable core in a cross crawl pattern. Kudos to his athletic trainers.
 
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zinfamous

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Is this some technical chiropractic term? Because a quick bit of Google Fu only reveals a hit on some chiropractor's site talking about babies and related topics like "tummy time."

this shit is going loony toons, fast.

Notice that the message is slowly being directed towards "RG3's trainers are at fault for everything!" Obviously, it never had anything to do with the fact that RG3 scrambles like an idiot--a running back and not a QB that understands how to protect himself.

I feel like we have unwittingly wandered into some sort of scummy seminar where we each paid $500 for a two hour pep-talk on life improvement through better health and quasi-medical voodoo, complete with industry-invented jargon that you won't find in any legitimate medical text.

....all because of some mediocre NFL athlete.
 

mvbighead

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That TD pass by Luck as he was tackled was a thing of beauty. He definitely has a stable core in a cross scrawl pattern. Kudos to his athletic trainers.

He made a very similar throw at Standford many years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMz9nwy7yYc

As for his core, the dude is relentless in the weight room. I suspect it has very little to do with the the trainers in Indy as he was pretty much the same build coming out of college.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBAqZjDeCIw
 

zinfamous

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He made a very similar throw at Standford many years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMz9nwy7yYc

As for his core, the dude is relentless in the weight room. I suspect it has very little to do with the the trainers in Indy as he was pretty much the same build coming out of college.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBAqZjDeCIw

one of my favorite Luck in college plays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4_w-puInqY


amazing how slow and weak those guys are at that level, though. Think about how slow Luck compares to NFL defenders, and how he basically outruns the linebackers and half the secondary in this game against Cal.
 

eits

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For those who are curious, the cross-crawl pattern is a basic movement pattern that helps allows for added core stability while moving arms and legs in an alternating pattern. For example, sprinting, punchink, kicking, walking, pitching, swimming, etc. When you develop the anterior and posterior oblique sling, you end up with a much stronger and more stable core and can operate your upper or lower body independent of each other if necessary. For example, if Andrew Luck were paralyzed from the waist-down, he would still be able to complete a deep ball pass with accuracy because his throwing strength isn't dependent on planting and throwing off his back foot. This is why I believe RG3 went to garbage after his knee injury, where they rehabbed his knee more than they stabilized his core when they both should have been done simultaneously.

It is far from voodoo. Any physical therapist, chiropractor, athletic trainer, etc. worth their salt knows all about it. It's based of of the teachings of Dr. Vladimir Janda, et all, continued by Dr. Pavel Kolar. It's the primary doctrine of DNS (dynamic neuromuscular stabilization) and embraced by just about every neuromuscular expert from Dr. Stuart McGill to Gray Cook.
 

manly

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Andrew Luck is damn good. There were a couple throws he made that were definitely brilliant. I didn't know that the Colts lead the league with the most dropped catches. That plays a role in the stats as to why Luck gets some of his interceptions and mediocre accuracy numbers.

I may have been wrong about him. He has definitely improved with each year.
Lmfao he was widely considered the greatest QB prospect since John Elway (yes, even better than Tennessee's Manning) and you may have been wrong about him?

I don't follow Andrew Luck or the Colts, but the thrilling playoff comeback last season already showed off his abilities. Actually, my jaw dropped in Luck's final college game, I think it was the Fiesta Bowl (loss). He was 27/30 (or so) and 2 of those incompletions were drops. He had a couple tight ends that year and no halfway decent WRs to throw to. Sure it was only college, but I'd never seen that level of accuracy before.
 
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