People who vote Luck over RG3 are hiding their racism behind the veil of a blind poll. What they're really saying is that a black can never be as good of a quarterback as a white. My proof of this racism is the fact that RG3 is clearly the better quarterback. He sets the standard for passing QB's with a phenomenal rating.
It's a lot easier, and takes less QB talent to make a throw to a busted up play when he scrambles outside the pocket. Don't have to be near as accurate, receivers are more open.
That's why he's not as good a Luck as a QB or passer.
He's a run first QB, Luck is a supremely skilled passing QB and will go down as one of the greats.
Is anybody seriously trying to make the arugment that RG3 is a better passer than Luck? REALLY?
It's a lot easier, and takes less QB talent to make a throw to a busted up play when he scrambles outside the pocket. Don't have to be near as accurate, receivers are more open.
That's why he's not as good a Luck as a QB or passer.
He's a run first QB, Luck is a supremely skilled passing QB and will go down as one of the greats.
Is anybody seriously trying to make the arugment that RG3 is a better passer than Luck? REALLY?
I know they'll be compared from now until the end of their careers, and probably longer. I'm just gonna enjoy watching both of them. The two best rookie QBs ever and drafted in the same year, wild.
I hope RGIII stays healthy, too. Not only does he put himself in danger a lot, but the refs are much more lenient with late hits against scrambling type QBs.
I'll take Wilson over both. He's got the accuracy, arm and makes so few mistakes. Very slippery runner too so doesn't get hit much.
Russell Wilson's career will be worthless in the next two seasons. He will not stand the test of time.
How so? Saw him play in 3 games. The guy is amazing at avoiding tackles. So quick and so smart he's going to last a lot of years.
As a Redskins fan, I'm going to try my best to be objective. Right now, I'm picking RG3 to be the better QB. I'm basing my pick on passing performance data against teams with top 20 pass defenses, both of which are limited for these 2 quarterbacks. I picked teams ranked 1 - 20 in pass defense to provide a somewhat useful amount of data - neither of quarterbacks faced enough pass defenses in the top 10 to make any arguments.
Here is Luck's gamelog:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/14874/andrew-luck
Luck has played against 7 teams with top 20 pass defenses. The remaining 9 of the Colts' 16 games were ranked below in 20 in overall pass defense.
Luck's performance against teams ranked higher than 20 in pass defense:
Jets #2 in Pass Defense (0TD, 2INT) - Loss; final score 9-35
Green Bay #11 in Pass Defense (2TD, 1INT) - Win; final score 30-27
Chicago #8 in Pass Defense (1TD, 3INT) - Loss; final score 21-41
Buffalo #10 in Pass Defense (1TD, 1INT) - Win; final score 20-13
Detroit #14 in Pass Defense (4TD, 3INT) - Win; final score 35-33
Houston #16 in Pass Defense (played twice) - (4TD overall, 0INT overall) - 1Loss and 1Win
Overall performance of Luck against Top 20 Pass Defenses: 12TD, 10INT, 4W-3L
Average ranking of Top 20 pass defense faced by Luck: Rank 11
Strength of Colts schedule: .441
What about RG3? RG3 played against 9 teams with Pass Defenses ranked higher than 20. The remaining 7 of the 16 games were played against teams with passing defense ranks below 20.
RG3 gamelog:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/14875/robert-griffin-iii
RG3's performance against teams ranked higher than 20 in pass defense:
St. Louis #15 in Pass Defense (1TD, 1INT) - Loss; final score 28-31
Cincinnati #7 in Pass Defense (1TD, 0INT) - Loss; final score 31-38
Pittsburgh #1 in Pass Defense (1TD, 0INT) - Loss; final score 12-27
Carolina #13 in Pass Defense (0TD, 0INT) - Loss; final score 13-21
Philadelphia #9 in Pass Defense (played twice) - (6TD, 1INT) - Win and Win
Dallas #19 in Pass Defense (played twice) - (4TD, 1INT) - Win and Win
Baltimore Ravens #17 in Pass Defense - (1TD, 0INT) - Win; final score 31-28
Overall Performance against top 20 Pass defenses: 14TD, 3INT, with a record of 5W-4L.
Average rank of Top 20 Pass defense faced by RG3: Rank 12
Strength of Redskins schedule: .494
Judging by these overall numbers, RG3 had a better TD to INT ratio than Luck against similar Top 20 pass defense teams. At this point, I have to give the nod to RG3 as the better passing QB based on passing performance.
Russell Wilson's career will be worthless in the next two seasons. He will not stand the test of time.
Andrew Luck is kinda like Ben Roethlisberger. He's good... not THAT good, but good enough if he has a good enough team around him. RG3 is like Steve Young... smart as hell, great arm and accuracy, and mobile, but not immune to injuries.
Honestly, just a gut feeling.
For those of you who didn't vote RGIII. Please explain to me the abilities that your choice possesses that RGIII doesn't.
seriously, eits...wtf do you come off with this stuff? i watched this guy play for 4 years, and he's every bit as poised as any experienced pro QB.
Wilson has done nothing but get better and better each week, and has played like an NFL QB. Griffin has serious skill and talent, but I've yet to see him play like an NFL QB that is going to last more than 2 or 3 seasons.
I honestly don't know where this comment of yours comes from, backed by nothing but hot air; but it only describes Griffin's style of running headfirst into linebackers. dumb dumb dumb as shit and as a lifelong redskins fan, it pisses me off to no end to see him play like such an idiot at those times.
this is the first week that I saw him actually slide. ...but only on one play
settle down. you make me sad to pull for the Redskins.
pathetic.
not a gut feeling, at all. you're simply blinded by sheer fanboyism. get over it.
how many games have you watched Wilson play? and which games?
you're just as bad as they Peyton & Brady & Luck knob schlobers we have cumming all over these threads.
gah! D:
Russell Wilson's career will be worthless in the next two seasons. He will not stand the test of time.
Andrew Luck is kinda like Ben Roethlisberger. He's good... not THAT good, but good enough if he has a good enough team around him. RG3 is like Steve Young... smart as hell, great arm and accuracy, and mobile, but not immune to injuries.
First, to clear up one minor thing - looking at RG3's pass attempts compared to Luck's pass attempts, in order to say that RG3 doesn't pass much. It's probably noteworthy to point out that Luck also set a record for most pass attempts by a rookie.
Anyway, I suspect Spidey is simply trolling - he should keep his trolling in P&N. But, if he had actually watched any games he'd notice that RG3 has incredible pass accuracy. Come to think about it, how many *perfect* passer rating games does Luck have? RG3 has one perfect passer rating game so far. Who leads the NFL for all time best touchdown pass/interception ratio? RG3. So, the stats pretty much bear that currently, for this season, RG3 was the more accurate/wiser decision passer.
Longevity - that may be an issue. But for this season, one of the two has outperformed the other in virtually every category except pass attempts (which Luck has the rookie record for.)
Luck also shattered the rookie passing yards mark with nearly 4400 yards.
But didn't do anywhere near as well in the yards per completion category.
But didn't do anywhere near as well in the yards per completion category.