Android phone sales up 886%

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

ObscureCaucasian

Diamond Member
Jul 23, 2006
3,934
0
0
Oh yeah. I know. Blur really involves some customization of the OS and it makes the phone a lot more usable straight out of the box. That's what was what the OS needed. Either Sense or Blur or Touchwiz. The Nexus One and Droid showed that raw Android itself was not ready for general use.

It seems like Google delivers a 90% complete product and then relies on the manufacturers to get to that 100%. Kinda annoying.

I like Sense, but I use LauncherPro instead of the Sense launcher. I much prefer the extra shortcuts on the bottom.

Google does a good job on Android stock, but they allow competitors to differentiate their offerings by developing new software. Essentially Google launched a platform that encourages competition, while MS has decided to forgo that in favor of stability (not saying either approach is right).
 

MrX8503

Diamond Member
Oct 23, 2005
4,529
0
0
I think Android looks ok, but its not as pretty as iOS. If you read the SDK on designing the icons/UI for Android/iOS you'll know why Android kind of looks thrown together.
 

Deeko

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
30,215
11
81
They could ship a billion phones running Android and it wouldn't help Googles bottom line one bit. That is the funny part about all of this.

Not true. Google gets a cut of every app sold in the Android Market. Additionally, Android phones work best with Google services, which encourages users to use gmail, google search, maps, voice, etc...which provides a nice, neat package of user data that Google can integrate into their search and advertising system. And the continued improvement of said systems is what generates billions of dollars in profit for Google.

So yes....I would say Android does indeed help Google's bottom line. Nice try, though.
 
Feb 19, 2001
20,158
20
81
I don't think Blur is used on the Droid X. Maybe, they integrated some Blur stuff into it. The only difference I could tell immediately was the home screen has the dots on the bottom which you can use to quickly jump to different panels.

the original blur ont he backflip and devour were intrusive. i thought the droid x and later droid phones have "ninjablur" sorta blur 2.0 or whatever...

it's like Vista UAC when it first came out. Then MS had to make it less intrusive. I know the Droid X has blur elements, but I thought it was a Blur-ed phone just a less intrusive version of blur... Shrug. You may be right though.
 

MJinZ

Diamond Member
Nov 4, 2009
8,192
0
0
I prefer the function of WebOS (mostly multitasking), but found the look of the OS a bit boring.

Considering WebOS never moved from anything bigger than a dinky 3 inch screen, the whole multitasking bit was completely useless for the few days I owned a Pre Plus, considering how little you could actually get done on that thing.
 

ObscureCaucasian

Diamond Member
Jul 23, 2006
3,934
0
0
Considering WebOS never moved from anything bigger than a dinky 3 inch screen, the whole multitasking bit was completely useless for the few days I owned a Pre Plus, considering how little you could actually get done on that thing.

Doesn't mean it's not a good idea, app switching on Android/iOS is much harder (although they both let you get to recent apps by holding the home button now).
 

Spoooon

Lifer
Mar 3, 2000
11,565
203
106
Doesn't mean it's not a good idea, app switching on Android/iOS is much harder (although they both let you get to recent apps by holding the home button now).

The cards are fun and all, but having cards and no way to hide them means no widgets and so on for the "desktop." Unless there is a way to hide them?

Anyway, holding the home button is not that arduous a task.
 

Phokus

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
22,995
776
126
They could ship a billion phones running Android and it wouldn't help Googles bottom line one bit. That is the funny part about all of this.

Your posts here are like your posts in P&N - full of fail!


Debate the post, not the poster, DbZ.
Moderator PM
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Patranus

Diamond Member
Apr 15, 2007
9,280
0
0

The operative wording in that article is *could* and that money they *could* make is not BECAUSE of android but BECAUSE of their advertising which is available on other platforms.

Google search is what is generating the revenue and that is available on multiple platforms. That money would have been there either way. The same could be said about subscription.

Now, the question is weather or not their mobile advertising is improving their bottom line. The answer to that question is most certainly yes.

You have to ask if the increase in advertising and subscription revenue is caused by the android platform. The answer is no.
 
Last edited:

Deeko

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
30,215
11
81
The operative wording in that article is *could* and that money they *could* make is not BECAUSE of android but BECAUSE of their advertising which is available on other platforms.

Google search is what is generating the revenue and that is available on multiple platforms. That money would have been there either way. The same could be said about subscription.

Now, the question is weather or not their mobile advertising is improving their bottom line. The answer to that question is most certainly yes.

You have to ask if the increase in advertising and subscription revenue is caused by the android platform. The answer is no.

Not true. Google gets a cut of every app sold in the Android Market. Additionally, Android phones work best with Google services, which encourages users to use gmail, google search, maps, voice, etc...which provides a nice, neat package of user data that Google can integrate into their search and advertising system. And the continued improvement of said systems is what generates billions of dollars in profit for Google.

So yes....I would say Android does indeed help Google's bottom line. Nice try, though.

See my earlier reply. Yes - iPhones and Blackberries and whatnot do generate traffic to Google services. However, despite its open source nature, Android works best with Google services, and users are therefore considerably more likely to use said services on an Android phone. Plus, Apple might get fed up with Google and switch the iPhone to Bing services. While technically Motorola or HTC could do the same with an Android phone, its unlikely in a big name device (the Backflip is barely worthy of mention). Its a strategic play to generate more traffic to Google's mobile services.

Also, you totally ignored the part about paid apps from the Android Market.

Its very clear that you're just trolling here, which is not very surprising.
 

Patranus

Diamond Member
Apr 15, 2007
9,280
0
0
Also, you totally ignored the part about paid apps from the Android Market

The article posted talked about google revenue generated by advertising and subscription services.

If you have any data on the amount of revenue currently generated by the google app store please post it.

Apple barely adds to its bottom line from the iPhone app store.
(~1 percent of Apples grose profit)
 
Last edited:

Deeko

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
30,215
11
81
The article posted talked about google revenue generated by advertising and subscription services.

If you have any data on the amount of revenue currently generated by the google app store please post it.

Apple barely adds to its bottom line from the iPhone app store.
(~1 percent of Apples grose profit)

They could ship a billion phones running Android and it wouldn't help Googles bottom line one bit. That is the funny part about all of this.

No, I do not have that data, but it still counts. You said it wouldn't help them "one bit". This is clearly incorrect, so I don't know why you are continuing to argue.

1% of Apple's gross profit, vs how much of their iPhone profit? Its not like the iPhone represents 100% of their profit or anything. That's certainly more than "not helping one bit."

Listen, Patranus, you are flat out, completey wrong here. Just admit it and move on, or just stop arguing.
 

Pliablemoose

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
25,195
0
56
Google is betting that mobile data mining and ads will make $.

I fail to see any outcome that shows they're wrong...
 

hanoverphist

Diamond Member
Dec 7, 2006
9,928
23
76
Now, the question is weather or not their mobile advertising is improving their bottom line. The answer to that question is most certainly yes.

You have to ask if the increase in advertising and subscription revenue is caused by the android platform. The answer is no.

dont these two kind of contradict? if their mobile advertising improves their numbers, adding 10 million more mobile devices using their services would definitely enhance their mobile advertising. that would be directly from adding android platform phones.
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
11,757
0
71
The article posted talked about google revenue generated by advertising and subscription services.

If you have any data on the amount of revenue currently generated by the google app store please post it.

Apple barely adds to its bottom line from the iPhone app store.
(~1 percent of Apples grose profit)



Dude, just admit you're wrong. Do you really think Google would invest all this energy into Android if it didn't impact their bottom line? Come on man, think for a second. THINK GOD DAMNIT!



/facepalm


Android most certainly impacts Googles bottom line.
 

Binky

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
4,046
4
81
The strangest thing about these market statistics is the dominance by Nokia. Who the hell is buying these nokia phones? Here in Los Angeles, its all blackberry, iphone, and android for the "smartphones."

The people that I know with a Nokia phone are the people that answer "I have no idea, it was free" when you ask them what phone they have.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
36,041
472
126
The strangest thing about these market statistics is the dominance by Nokia. Who the hell is buying these nokia phones? Here in Los Angeles, its all blackberry, iphone, and android for the "smartphones."

The people that I know with a Nokia phone are the people that answer "I have no idea, it was free" when you ask them what phone they have.

Overseas they're HUGE. LA isn't the world fyi.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
47,371
14
61
Overseas they're HUGE. LA isn't the world fyi.

I sold cell phones for the majority of my adult life and I still don't believe it. I know its true, I just haven't seen it personally.

That said...the 512X & 612x phones dominated like no phones since.
 

cheezy321

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2003
6,218
2
0
Dude, just admit you're wrong. Do you really think Google would invest all this energy into Android if it didn't impact their bottom line? Come on man, think for a second. THINK GOD DAMNIT!



/facepalm


Android most certainly impacts Googles bottom line.

I think this is what he is trying to say:
The direct impact of android onto google's bottom line is nil.

The indirect impact of android on google's bottom line is HUGE.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
35,787
6,195
126
Amazing growth for Android. Kinda blows the whole too hard to use for the average consumer myth out of the water.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |