Android phone sales up 886%

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MrX8503

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Its inevitable that Android will be the largest mobile OS. The OS is on all carriers and has a new Android device released every 2 months.

There is no possible way that the iPhone will keep its spot being on 1 carrier with 1 phone. As people may not like to admit it, this is the selling power of the iPhone being able to compete with numerous Android devices.

If the iPhone is released on Verizon and Sprint, its game over.
 

spaceman

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game over .."chuckles"
i and countless other wouldnt buy the iphone were it the ONLY smartphone on the market
so lol @ you
 

rudeguy

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Its inevitable that Android will be the largest mobile OS. The OS is on all carriers and has a new Android device released every 2 months.

There is no possible way that the iPhone will keep its spot being on 1 carrier with 1 phone. As people may not like to admit it, this is the selling power of the iPhone being able to compete with numerous Android devices.

If the iPhone is released on Verizon and Sprint, its game over.

iPhone being released to a carrier that has a comparable Android device would hurt the iPhone. It won't happen.

See the Aria for proof.
 

MrX8503

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game over .."chuckles"
i and countless other wouldnt buy the iphone were it the ONLY smartphone on the market
so lol @ you

1 carrier 1 phone can compete with All carriers and an army of Android phones. You do the math.

There was a survey that Apple would gain several million from Verizon if there was a CDMA iPhone.

iPhone being released to a carrier that has a comparable Android device would hurt the iPhone. It won't happen.

See the Aria for proof.

I don't see how that kind of comparison means anything. The Aria is junk.
 

rudeguy

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1 carrier 1 phone can compete with All carriers and an army of Android phones. You do the math.

There was a survey that Apple would gain several million from Verizon if there was a CDMA iPhone.



I don't see how that kind of comparison means anything. The Aria is junk.

It could have been great. AT&T made it pure crap so it couldn't compete with iPhone. And the Backflip? WTF?

I've been saying it forever and will gladly admit if I'm wrong:

Apple won't release the iPhone to anyone but ATT any time soon. Direct competition is not something they are interested in.
 

MrX8503

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Apple won't release the iPhone to anyone but ATT any time soon. Direct competition is not something they are interested in.

Direct competition? I don't understand what you're getting at. The iPhone is in direct competition with Android whether or not its exclusive to ATT.

Apple wants to sell more iPhones regardless of what carrier, its ATT that should be worried about competition.

If the iPhone was on all carriers, then it would be open to all those who wants one. This would be favorable to Apple. I don't see this happening next year, but its definitely something that Apple wants to do. ATT is already saturated with iPhone users, Apple cannot expand unless they go with Verizon/Sprint.
 

rudeguy

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If a customer could walk into a Verizon store and compare it to the Droid X, they would be able to do an honest A, B comparison. Apple likes customers not being able to do that. With ATT, its either the iPhone or ATT's stripped down version of Android.

Its the same reason Bose is only carried by select stores. The stores and their employees are highly trained on the reasons to sell Bose. If they can't pass random inspections, Bose gets pulled. IF the iPhone did go to another carrier, it would be the same kind of situation. There is no way Verizon, Sprint or Tmo will bow down to a phone maker like ATT does.

Apple is getting paid what they want per phone as it is. They are selling every phone they make. They have no reason to test the waters and Steve is too smart to let that happen anyways.
 

ObscureCaucasian

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If the iPhone is released on Verizon and Sprint, its game over.

I disagree, the iPhone is still refreshed only once a year, and we all know how stale phones look once they hit the 6 month mark. Maybe I underestimate the fix Apple has over the public, but I don't see Android losing momentum relative to Apple.

Android will be the biggest selling mobile OS, but Apple is able to make a shit ton of money off of even 15-20% a la OSX.
 

ObscureCaucasian

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I think the thing that most people don't realize is a majority of the population doesn't care who makes their phone. They may gravitate towards the iPhone because it's what they've heard of, but they can be sold on Android easily.

Trust me I've done numerous completely unscientific studies on this.
 

Bateluer

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Apple won't release the iPhone to anyone but ATT any time soon. Direct competition is not something they are interested in.

Agreed, the Aria is a joke. Could have been a decent phone, had AT&T not intentionally crippled it.

It is this close minded attitude that all but ensures Android's victory. The army of Android phones continues to grow, across all carriers, price points, and hardware configurations. If you want a high end phone with a hardware keyboard, Android has that. If you want a large touch tablet, Android has that. If you want a small screen with a hardware keyboard, Android has that. If you want a small screen with touch only, Android has that. Essentially, if you want it, its offered. The one size fits all iPhone is not going to maintain traction forever.

And it boggles my mind that even with the confirmed, well documented flawed antenna combined with Apple's 'Screw you!' handling of the situation, that people continue to buy the iPhone 4.
 

Bateluer

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Apple will maintain a solid market share for a long time, but their strategy isn't mass market. Mass market isn't Apples strategy though.

Keep in mind, they are losing market share every quarter as Android grows. They aren't losing as much as RIM is, but they are losing people.

Edit - I won't consider MS a player until after Windows Phone 7 is released and there's a marked improvement in MS's mobile fortunes.
 

MrX8503

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If a customer could walk into a Verizon store and compare it to the Droid X, they would be able to do an honest A, B comparison. Apple likes customers not being able to do that. With ATT, its either the iPhone or ATT's stripped down version of Android.

Its the same reason Bose is only carried by select stores. The stores and their employees are highly trained on the reasons to sell Bose. If they can't pass random inspections, Bose gets pulled. IF the iPhone did go to another carrier, it would be the same kind of situation. There is no way Verizon, Sprint or Tmo will bow down to a phone maker like ATT does.

Apple is getting paid what they want per phone as it is. They are selling every phone they make. They have no reason to test the waters and Steve is too smart to let that happen anyways.

I don't see this happening at all. People know what a Droid X is, people know what an iPhone is. What I'm saying is that I think a lot of Verizon users would choose an iPhone over the Droid X if they were sitting next to each other in a Verizon store. In other words, if you could buy any phone for any carrier, I think the iPhone would be the best selling phone.

Remember the astounding sales that the iPhone is able to accomplish on just 1 carrier. If the iPhone was open to everyone, that is even more leg room for it to stretch.
 

JD50

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I don't see this happening at all. People know what a Droid X is, people know what an iPhone is. What I'm saying is that I think a lot of Verizon users would choose an iPhone over the Droid X if they were sitting next to each other in a Verizon store. In other words, if you could buy any phone for any carrier, I think the iPhone would be the best selling phone.

Remember the astounding sales that the iPhone is able to accomplish on just 1 carrier. If the iPhone was open to everyone, that is even more leg room for it to stretch.

The iphone came first so it has more mindshare than Android phones, but that is quickly changing. If the iphone was released tomorrow on Verizon you might be right, but by the time there is an iphone available for Verizon I think everything will have changed.
 

jpeyton

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Congrats. The numbers only go up from here. Apple is on lock with AT&T through 2012.
 

Patranus

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I don't see this happening at all. People know what a Droid X is, people know what an iPhone is.

Are you sure about that?

Gadget geeks know what a droid x is, everyone and their grandmother know what an iPhone is.
 

abaez

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Verizon has undergone a multi-million dollar marketing campaign since the original droid has come out last year. It's been used for the incredible and now the droid x. Unfortunately people go in asking for a "droid" instead of a specific phone, but the droid name is definitely out there. Not as much as an iPhone obviously, but even if you watch tv semi-regularly you've probably seen a droid commercial.
 

zerocool84

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So Android has a business model that gets phones sold and build brand loyalty? Oh no!

Come on Dwell...we started off this thread by complimenting iOS. I'm sure you can come up with one positive thing to say about Android sales being up that much. Or are you just being....


He'll never say anything good about any other phone. He's a blind fanboy and the worst of any fanboy here. Always starts stuff in threads when no one else has.

Keep the meta-commentary on other members to yourself, please.
-ViRGE
 
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MrX8503

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Verizon has undergone a multi-million dollar marketing campaign since the original droid has come out last year. It's been used for the incredible and now the droid x. Unfortunately people go in asking for a "droid" instead of a specific phone, but the droid name is definitely out there. Not as much as an iPhone obviously, but even if you watch tv semi-regularly you've probably seen a droid commercial.

Yea Verizon did a great job with their Droid campaign. The problem is that it's very annoying to explain to people what android is.

"Is that an iPhone?"

...is almost as bad as...

"Is that a droid?"

"No it's the new EVO"

"confused look"
 

ObscureCaucasian

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Yea Verizon did a great job with their Droid campaign. The problem is that it's very annoying to explain to people what android is.

"Is that an iPhone?"

...is almost as bad as...

"Is that a droid?"

"No it's the new EVO"

"confused look"

You learn when to just say "Yes" when people ask if an Android phone is a "Droid".... they got it close enough lol.
 

MJinZ

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Yea Verizon did a great job with their Droid campaign. The problem is that it's very annoying to explain to people what android is.

"Is that an iPhone?"

...is almost as bad as...

"Is that a droid?"

"No it's the new EVO"

"confused look"

Um, Apple Phone. iPhone. iOS.

Droid. Android.


What's hard about any of these except to a 4 year old?
 

ObscureCaucasian

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I think just saying 'it's google's phone' is good enough

The Droid ad campaign is a double edged sword for android. It get's the products out to consumers, but most people get confused between Droid and Android (understandably so). I feel "Googles Phone" could be used for the N1, but there actually are quite a few "regular" people who know about the Evo. I'm also surprised at the number of people aware of "HTC" these days... I remember back when practically nobody had heard of them.
 

ObscureCaucasian

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Um, Apple Phone. iPhone. iOS.

Droid. Android.


What's hard about any of these except to a 4 year old?

Droid/Android is so confusing to consumers because it is so similar. I used to try to explain that Droid is just Android on VZW (which is mostly true, I think they have a few low-end non Droid-branded android phones), but most people don't care so if they ask if it's a Droid, a Droid it is.
 

BenSkywalker

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Droid/Android is so confusing to consumers because it is so similar. I used to try to explain that Droid is just Android on VZW (which is mostly true, I think they have a few low-end non Droid-branded android phones), but most people don't care so if they ask if it's a Droid, a Droid it is.

If someone asks me 'Is that a Droid?' when I'm using any Android device I just say yes. It makes things so much easier
 
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