Originally posted by: halik
pwned
Did she seriously make a point that arabs smell? Are you fvcking kidding me?
She just uses right wing idiots/suckers to help them from their money. Write a bunch of idiotic right whing crap and say something completly stupid on national tv and you'll have the "Moran" guys going USA! USA! and buying your garbage
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
She's as alright as having explosive diarhhea in a trapped elevator.
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
She's as alright as having explosive diarhhea in a trapped elevator.
What if you REALLY hate the other people in the elevator?
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
So she makes the point by personally attacking those widows? Somebody should kick her in her Adam's apple and shut her the fsck up!Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: Amplifier
For my summer class we had to do an essay on a political columnist or politician. The point of the essay was to find a person whose we thought we'd completely disagree with and defend their point of view.
I picked Ann Coulter.
So I started reading her columns on the internet and one of her more recent books "How to speak to a Liberal." Her arguments really impressed me. From a technical point of view she covers her bases very well while leaving enough of an opening to generate debate. It's actually kind of embarrassing how much more intelligent she seems than Hillary Clinton or Al Franklin. Not to say I agree with Ann Coulters politics, she just seems to put more thought into what she says. Liberals tend to talk to other liberals like they're children, which gets pretty annoying.
If anything I can appreciate how she gets under peoples skin. She could easily change the wording of her arguments so they wouldn't be considered controversial, but I guess being nice doesn't sell books. One of the topics I'm addressing in my essay is her criticism of the widows of the 9/11 attacks. She's actually echoing sentiments that myself and many other Democrats have about people using personal tragedies to make political points (in the case of the widows, quite idiotic statements). We feel that our politics can withstand direct criticism without using cheap tricks. Coulters points have a lot of validity to them, but they are intentionally sew together to piss liberals off (even at the expense of the argument itself). Saying she's a monster only proves her point that Democratic ideas aren't strong enough to stand on their own. They need to be served without a healthy dose of emotional pleas or ad homen attacks.
Coulter also illustrates (indirectly) a difference in Democrat and Republican mindsets.
What was our retort to "Godless"? We drag one of our most (unfortunately) recognizable faces in Hillary into a debate with a political pundit. Talk about trading a queen for a pawn. In contrast how did Bush handle Cindy Sheehan... "That's what's great about America, people are free to have their own opinion." He completely dismissed her until she lost all her political capital. How many times does Bush have to outmaneuver our party before we stop playing so sloppily.
Anyway, I've been to the dark side and it wasn't that bad. I'll definately read her columns in the future. And with the reaction I got when I told the class I was defending Ann Coulter I got to experience liberal bias in college for the first time!
just because people suffer tragedy doesn't mean they give up the right to have a political opinion. as Americans, it's our right to have an opinion and express it.
there, i just trumped her argument.
try not be such a sheeple.
Actually, you didn't even address the point of her argument. The point of her argument is that liberal puts forward people like these 9/11 Widows or Cindy Sheehan to attack the Bush Administration, conservatives, et al and proclaims that they have absolute moral authority and that you can't respond to them.
Meanwhile, people in the same situation that support the Bush Administrations, conservatives, et al don't get the time of day from the mainstream media.
Coulter is not the first person to make this point. Hideous editorial cartoonist Ted Rall did so as did columnist Dorothy Rabinowitz two years ago.
Originally posted by: hungfarover
If an Anne Coulter was an acne-ridden 5? 1? heifer topping 3 bills no one would give her the time of day. But she isn't. She?s pretty. She tosses around semi-facts, outright racism, sexism, and pure idiocy with remarkable composure, though, and people eat it up. She?s rich because of it.
Oh come on now...Michael Moore is HOT!Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: hungfarover
If an Anne Coulter was an acne-ridden 5? 1? heifer topping 3 bills no one would give her the time of day. But she isn't. She?s pretty. She tosses around semi-facts, outright racism, sexism, and pure idiocy with remarkable composure, though, and people eat it up. She?s rich because of it.
Hey, it worked for Michael Moore and Al Franken.
It is extremely important that our female leaders be hot.Originally posted by: Doboji
I think the OP has an excellent point...
The democratic party today has no testicles... we're just a bunch of whiney wussy boy punks, who can't win anything. Why is it the right has powerful effective, in your face people like Ann Coulter and we're left with whiney plastic faced ugly Hilary Clinton. It's a travesty... we're a bunch of pvssies...
Until we get some guts we're going to be left without glory.
-Max
Originally posted by: Amused
Let's see...
Ann's claim is that the small group of widows (in no way a signifigant number of surviving family members) are using the deaths of their husbands on 9/11 to create an unimpeachable, emotionally based political platform and statement. To question them, debate them or insult them is "unthinkable and despicable."
People are attacking Ann for doing so, saying "how dare she insult these women, their husbands are dead!!!"
It's pretty simple. The fact that you cannot understand it makes your insults about me extremely ironic.
Originally posted by: preslove
Only a moron would ever consider Ann Coulter anything but a raving lunatic.
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
So she makes the point by personally attacking those widows? Somebody should kick her in her Adam's apple and shut her the fsck up!Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: Amplifier
For my summer class we had to do an essay on a political columnist or politician. The point of the essay was to find a person whose we thought we'd completely disagree with and defend their point of view.
I picked Ann Coulter.
So I started reading her columns on the internet and one of her more recent books "How to speak to a Liberal." Her arguments really impressed me. From a technical point of view she covers her bases very well while leaving enough of an opening to generate debate. It's actually kind of embarrassing how much more intelligent she seems than Hillary Clinton or Al Franklin. Not to say I agree with Ann Coulters politics, she just seems to put more thought into what she says. Liberals tend to talk to other liberals like they're children, which gets pretty annoying.
If anything I can appreciate how she gets under peoples skin. She could easily change the wording of her arguments so they wouldn't be considered controversial, but I guess being nice doesn't sell books. One of the topics I'm addressing in my essay is her criticism of the widows of the 9/11 attacks. She's actually echoing sentiments that myself and many other Democrats have about people using personal tragedies to make political points (in the case of the widows, quite idiotic statements). We feel that our politics can withstand direct criticism without using cheap tricks. Coulters points have a lot of validity to them, but they are intentionally sew together to piss liberals off (even at the expense of the argument itself). Saying she's a monster only proves her point that Democratic ideas aren't strong enough to stand on their own. They need to be served without a healthy dose of emotional pleas or ad homen attacks.
Coulter also illustrates (indirectly) a difference in Democrat and Republican mindsets.
What was our retort to "Godless"? We drag one of our most (unfortunately) recognizable faces in Hillary into a debate with a political pundit. Talk about trading a queen for a pawn. In contrast how did Bush handle Cindy Sheehan... "That's what's great about America, people are free to have their own opinion." He completely dismissed her until she lost all her political capital. How many times does Bush have to outmaneuver our party before we stop playing so sloppily.
Anyway, I've been to the dark side and it wasn't that bad. I'll definately read her columns in the future. And with the reaction I got when I told the class I was defending Ann Coulter I got to experience liberal bias in college for the first time!
just because people suffer tragedy doesn't mean they give up the right to have a political opinion. as Americans, it's our right to have an opinion and express it.
there, i just trumped her argument.
try not be such a sheeple.
Actually, you didn't even address the point of her argument. The point of her argument is that liberal puts forward people like these 9/11 Widows or Cindy Sheehan to attack the Bush Administration, conservatives, et al and proclaims that they have absolute moral authority and that you can't respond to them.
Meanwhile, people in the same situation that support the Bush Administrations, conservatives, et al don't get the time of day from the mainstream media.
Coulter is not the first person to make this point. Hideous editorial cartoonist Ted Rall did so as did columnist Dorothy Rabinowitz two years ago.
LMAO
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: preslove
Only a moron would ever consider Ann Coulter anything but a raving lunatic.
What would you call people who use fallacies of argumentation?
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Amplifier
So I started reading her columns on the internet and one of her more recent books "How to speak to a Liberal." Her arguments really impressed me. From a technical point of view she covers her bases very well while leaving enough of an opening to generate debate. It's actually kind of embarrassing how much more intelligent she seems than Hillary Clinton or Al Franklin. Not to say I agree with Ann Coulters politics, she just seems to put more thought into what she says. Liberals tend to talk to other liberals like they're children, which gets pretty annoying.
You're mistaking condescension for intelligence?
You are a born Gamma-Minus, my friend.
Gee.. liberal bias.. boo.
Her arguments are definitely pretty smart. I don't agree with everything she says, but I find it retarded that liberals just slam her and are incapable of refuting some of her arguments.
christ, are you a moron? she is a racist, bigoted, sexist piece of sh!t. anybody who supports her is no better. go to hell you pos.
you might as well make a thread saying adolf hitler makes good arguments.
your a fvcking troll idiot.
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Amused, don't sweat him. I've read your responses and you get what Coulter is saying and meaning.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Slikkster
Originally posted by: Amused
And, again, your response just helps to prove her point.
Stop the presses, everyone! We must bow down to Amused for countering every argument with "your response just helps to prove her point".
Of course, that doesn't make a lick of sense, but it is entertaining. Try some actual logic and critical thinking sometime, because the point you're proving to everyone is how intellectually vapid you are.
You crack me up, man.
Let's see...
Ann's claim is that the small group of widows (in no way a signifigant number of surviving family members) are using the deaths of their husbands on 9/11 to create an unimpeachable, emotionally based political platform and statement. To question them, debate them or insult them is "unthinkable and despicable."
People are attacking Ann for doing so, saying "how dare she insult these women, their husbands are dead!!!"
It's pretty simple. The fact that you cannot understand it makes your insults about me extremely ironic.
Guys like slik and that other guy talking about kicking her in the adam's apple(I thought attacking women was frowned on here) are simply following what the extremist liberals are telling us to think. They don't expect anyone to look past the surface comment of "she insults 9/11 widows".
That Dorothy Rabinowitz link said it all... over two years ago.
It's fine to belittle and berate our president on a daily basis but how dare you question a liberal political activist who's husband died on 9/11! Gimme a break. :roll:
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Amplifier
So I started reading her columns on the internet and one of her more recent books "How to speak to a Liberal." Her arguments really impressed me. From a technical point of view she covers her bases very well while leaving enough of an opening to generate debate. It's actually kind of embarrassing how much more intelligent she seems than Hillary Clinton or Al Franklin. Not to say I agree with Ann Coulters politics, she just seems to put more thought into what she says. Liberals tend to talk to other liberals like they're children, which gets pretty annoying.
You're mistaking condescension for intelligence?
You are a born Gamma-Minus, my friend.
Gee.. liberal bias.. boo.
Her arguments are definitely pretty smart. I don't agree with everything she says, but I find it retarded that liberals just slam her and are incapable of refuting some of her arguments.
christ, are you a moron? she is a racist, bigoted, sexist piece of sh!t. anybody who supports her is no better. go to hell you pos.
you might as well make a thread saying adolf hitler makes good arguments.
your a fvcking troll idiot.
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Good job pretty much proving her point.
I'm not a fan of Coulter or her politics, but regarding views of Democrats, I have to whole heartedly agree. I'm yet to meet a Dem with a fully functional brain.
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Ann Coulter/Hillary Clinton seems pretty alright, compared to a rabid Pit Bull on PMS.
Fixed