Anonymous Threatens to 'Erase NYSE from the Internet'

[Corn]

Even assuming your grandiose claims are true, your experience is atypical. From the "silly liberal" rag, The Wall Street Journal:


Of course none of your charming tale has anything to do with Hal2kilo's point that 401(k) plans have been a great scam for Wall Street. They've been a great propaganda tool, conning middle-class Americans into voting against their overall interests out of a misguided belief that what's good for Wall Street is also good for them personally. We've been duped out of literally trillions of dollars thanks to that canard, but you and those like you are too blinded by ideology to get it.

Silly sock puppet.

Of course my experience is "atypical". I've invested the maximum allowed during my entire working duration and I also pay close attention to my investments. While this does not guarantee my investments won't lose value (I did lose nearly 40% in my 401k value in 2008, but my gains in 2009 covered those losses plus), it really does help mitigate some of it. As for most people, go ahead and poll your average 401k investor to name a specific investment fund they've got their money in and you'll get "uhhhhhh......" as an answer. Most people can't be bothered.

But more to the point, if boomers can't be trusted to save enough for their retirement with their 401k's plus SSI, how the hell could anyone survive on SSI alone? How much should the government provide to the average citizen to ensure they maintain their "standard of living" during retirement in you world? We are a free spending credit leveraged entitled society, perhaps that is why the median household will have to lower their standard of living during their retirement years. DUH!

Pension plans also invest in Wall Street, it is how they make money, generally. There is always risk of loss, and loss is inevitable. Retirement accounts should be diversified and investments should be transitioned from high gain investments to stable investments as one nears retirement age.

Do tell, how have I voted against my own self interest when I know my retirement will be more than comfortable? Trillions of dollars in losses, yet my retirement portfolio is fatter today than it was in 2007. How can this be?

 

[irishScott]

Apparently it's not the "real Anonymous"
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394128,00.asp

 

[irishScott]

Also note the new annotation on the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsLuYnEyFLw&feature=youtu.be

 

[halik]

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394071,00.asp#fbid=LHbsMcZjU3Z


Good luck with that. I am sure that crashing the 401ks of everyone will sure help your cause.

tards

OMG WE CAN LIKE DDOS THEIR SITE, I HAVE THIS WINDOWS PROGRAM THAT CAN DO IT LOL

In the 401K related news, stock exchange data run on separate, private circuits.

 

[bfdd]

Apparently it's not the "real Anonymous"
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394128,00.asp

lols, interesting.

 

[Patranus]

I think you are misunderstanding what is going to happen. From what I understand, the wallstreet web servers will be taken off-line with a DDOS.

That means no information will be streamed over the internet from the stock exchange.

There is nothing mentioned about taking out 401ks.

And if they successfully DDOS the NYSE trading platform what kind of impact do you think that is going to have on the markets?

(Hint: They will go down thus reducing the value of your 401k.)
(Hint 2: notice I didn't say 'erase' in my OP)

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

They are evidently clueless about how the NYSE is set up. They will not 'take it down' and, they will not 'erase' it.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

of course my experience is "atypical". I've invested the maximum allowed during my entire working duration and i also pay close attention to my investments. While this does not guarantee my investments won't lose value (i did lose nearly 40% in my 401k value in 2008, but my gains in 2009 covered those losses plus), it really does help mitigate some of it. As for most people, go ahead and poll your average 401k investor to name a specific investment fund they've got their money in and you'll get "uhhhhhh......" as an answer. Most people can't be bothered.

But more to the point, if boomers can't be trusted to save enough for their retirement with their 401k's plus ssi, how the hell could anyone survive on ssi alone? How much should the government provide to the average citizen to ensure they maintain their "standard of living" during retirement in you world? We are a free spending credit leveraged entitled society, perhaps that is why the median household will have to lower their standard of living during their retirement years. Duh!

Pension plans also invest in wall street, it is how they make money, generally. There is always risk of loss, and loss is inevitable. Retirement accounts should be diversified and investments should be transitioned from high gain investments to stable investments as one nears retirement age.

Do tell, how have i voted against my own self interest when i know my retirement will be more than comfortable? Trillions of dollars in losses, yet my retirement portfolio is fatter today than it was in 2007. How can this be?

insanity! Personal responsibility never leads to success!

 

[Texashiker]

And if they successfully DDOS the NYSE trading platform what kind of impact do you think that is going to have on the markets?

(Hint: They will go down thus reducing the value of your 401k.)
(Hint 2: notice I didn't say 'erase' in my OP)

How is taking down the wall street website going to affect the value of an exxon chemical plant, or anything else in this world that has a "real" value?

If you live in the cyber-world, taking down the feeds from wall street might "seem" like something important, but for the rest of us life will go on as usual.

The world does not need wall street to keep turning.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

tards

OMG WE CAN LIKE DDOS THEIR SITE, I HAVE THIS WINDOWS PROGRAM THAT CAN DO IT LOL

In the 401K related news, stock exchange data run on separate, private circuits.

That's what I told my idiot friend when he emailed me about this. It's not like the NYSE homepage has any significance whatsoever to financial markets.

 

[The-Noid]

That's what I told my idiot friend when he emailed me about this. It's not like the NYSE homepage has any significance whatsoever to financial markets.

Even hypothetically if they did take down the exchange there would still be internal crossing and a couple hundred other places you could send an order through, let alone the ability to use this thing called the telephone.

Simply put this is an article by someone who doesn't understand how modern exchanges work.

 

[JockoJohnson]

Well I think you need to do more research on how Social Security works and I personally think and opt out is a great idea with the caveat that sometime down the road if something bad in your life happens and your flat ass broke and want to get back in ....... Tough shit comes to mind

So would you have been in support of the hypothetical 30yr. old man that declined health insurance, even though he could pay for it, and then gets into a serious accident threatening his life?

 

[halik]

That's what I told my idiot friend when he emailed me about this. It's not like the NYSE homepage has any significance whatsoever to financial markets.

Literally none what so ever. Internet circuits are way to slow and unreliable for this kinda stuff.

 

[DrPizza]

tards

OMG WE CAN LIKE DDOS THEIR SITE, I HAVE THIS WINDOWS PROGRAM THAT CAN DO IT LOL

In the 401K related news, stock exchange data run on separate, private circuits.

As more or less agreed to in this thread, they can more or less simply take down a website via a DDOS attack.

But, a lot of people are completely ignoring a danger that is still lurking out there - if sophisticated programmers can write the Stuxnet virus to take out Iran's nuclear centrifuges - also on private networks & not connected to the internet - it should be child's play to get a virus on the "secure" financial networks. A few very sophisticated programmers could probably cause massive problems in the financial markets - and there are foreign interests (not Anonymous) who might already be preparing for such an attack.

 

[halik]

As more or less agreed to in this thread, they can more or less simply take down a website via a DDOS attack.

But, a lot of people are completely ignoring a danger that is still lurking out there - if sophisticated programmers can write the Stuxnet virus to take out Iran's nuclear centrifuges - also on private networks & not connected to the internet - it should be child's play to get a virus on the "secure" financial networks. A few very sophisticated programmers could probably cause massive problems in the financial markets - and there are foreign interests (not Anonymous) who might already be preparing for such an attack.

What made stuxnet fantastic was the detail intel on the target infrastructure and access to the proprietary network. Without both of those and a HUGE budget to get the right talent, it will not happen.
Bunch of 14 year old nerdy kids with DDOSing port 80 is not even on the map in that context.

Plus when you think about it, the only power that have the talent and intel to pull this off have their interests aligned. China would certainly not gain by fucking up NYSE.