Another 707hp on the way?

[foghorn67]

You really want a Jeep driver to have 700 horsepower?

I've seen stupid people doing stupid things with 90 HP or less.
Dipcrap cousin of my friend thought his Samurai could run over a center island doing 45-50 with his cousin and two of her friends in the car.

 

[foghorn67]

I had a '13 GC SRT8, and while it was a pretty fun car I felt that the 470hp it had was just a bit anemic (I know, right?!). Putting the hellcat in there would make it a lot more fun

I got rid of it in favor of a supercharged '14 Raptor, which is even more fun.

The sucker can move, but it is so smooth and quiet for nearly 500HP.

 

[Gillbot]

the jeep SRT8 is the most popular of the SRT8's. a jeep hellcat would sell very quickly.

I'm in.

 

[BUTCH1]

The better question is, why not?

As mentioned the high center of gravity will make this an extraordinarily dangerous vehicle, an accident waiting to happen.

 

[Fenixgoon]

As mentioned the high center of gravity will make this an extraordinarily dangerous vehicle, an accident waiting to happen.

No worse than the SRT8 version. In fact it would be better than a "standard" jeep as it would sit lower. And make no mistake, jeep does not sell cars. No one in their right mind is expecting this to be a sports car.
I've also heard that stability control systems are so good now that you can apply full steering angle from neutral at 60mph and not flip the vehicle (ESC probably sensing that the input would induce a roll and then dampening the steering input). I've never seen actual tests of this though, so don't take it as gospel

 

[darkswordsman17]

WTF at the "why a Jeep?" Seriously? Why the Charger or Challenger? Both are fat pigs of cars and are not exactly adept handlers (so people going on about the weight are just...I don't even know what to say, those cars weigh almost as much as the people going "WTF, it weighs 4500lbs!"). Plus both have serious traction issues with this engine, which 4WD in a Jeep helps remedy.

Some of you don't seem very familiar with the Grand Cherokee in general, and like others pointed out it's actually probably the best fit for this engine. Couple that with modern traction and stability systems, and it should be fine (but as with literally anything in the hands of an idiot can lead to trouble).

Now if you're going very high speeds and doing sharp maneuvering it does present somewhat of an issue (but that's true of all vehicles, although SUVs are more likely to roll, and if I remember correctly this generation of the Grand Cherokee actually failed the "moose test"; although I don't think it rolled over, it just wasn't fully stable, and I'm pretty sure that smaller Porsche SUV failed it as well), but it's not that huge of a concern.

If this gets made it will likely sit lower than normal (will be curious if they put the air suspension on it or try to lock it down to a lower ride height and stiff suspension for handling and stability purposes).

Here is why I think this might be a bad idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHReKA1HAEM

You're right, no car has ever crashed on race track!

Torque at the wheels is dependent upon gearing, while horsepower takes RPM into account. Horsepower is a more useful metric when you're looking at what happens at the output shaft.

A simpler way to think about horsepower and torque is just that torque is the actual force, while horsepower is how quickly that force is applied.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Even though the Jeep Grand Cherokee uses the same platform as the M-class MB?

I drove the SRT-8 Jeep GC and it was fast, but not crazy-fast or anything. With 707hp, it would probably be more similar in 0-60 and 1/4mi as the Cayenne GTS. Handling would be much different, for sure.

It would make the SRT 'more special'. Maybe just offer the current SRT engine option on the Overland/Limited and the new SRT is the 707hp?

All that said, a 707hp Jeep driver would probably scare me on the road too...but not any more than someone in the X6M today.

They're allegedly going to be dropping the SRT moniker for Jeeps. Chrysler decided that didn't fit with the brand or something (can't recall if they plan on making it only a Dodge thing or not, but it's been part of why they dropped the SRT8 300 in the US as well). I think the SRT spec of the Grand Cherokee has been rumored to carry the Trailhawk moniker, but not sure if it will or not since they already applied it to the new Cherokee and it was for a more off-road capable version and not a performance spec like the SRT.

 

[CropDuster]

They're allegedly going to be dropping the SRT moniker for Jeeps. Chrysler decided that didn't fit with the brand or something (can't recall if they plan on making it only a Dodge thing or not, but it's been part of why they dropped the SRT8 300 in the US as well). I think the SRT spec of the Grand Cherokee has been rumored to carry the Trailhawk moniker, but not sure if it will or not since they already applied it to the new Cherokee and it was for a more off-road capable version and not a performance spec like the SRT.

Trackhawk or something like that is what I read in one article. Living in a rural area and needing to pass on two lane roads; more power is always nice to have, don't care that it doesn't handle like a Corvette.

 

[natto fire]

nvm

 

[Squeetard]

Off the top of my head, I'm going to say a Blazer is 4500 pounds, so to get under 10 seconds with 4wd, you'd need about 900 horsepower. How close am I? And, how long would that drivetrain last doing runs like that?

Guy claimed 1000hp so you are right on the money. It was an LS block punched out to 421 cubes, 2 huge turbo's.The entire drivetrain was beefed up. Tranny, axles front diff etc. He drove it there and claimed it as a daily driver.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Trackhawk or something like that is what I read in one article. Living in a rural area and needing to pass on two lane roads; more power is always nice to have, don't care that it doesn't handle like a Corvette.

Yes that's right, I got it confused with Trailhawk.

And yeah. I was really disappointed with the SRT8 of the new Grand Cherokee when they compromised on speed to make it a better vehicle for it's likely use (hauling say boats and a few people). That's what would be curious to see about the Hellcat Jeep is if they'll keep it liveable or make it more performance focused. I'd kinda guess the latter (for bragging rights and stability reasons, it'd be something to draw people in who would be more likely to go with the SRT8 version since it'd be cheaper and more liveable).

Actually it's a shame they didn't have a Hellcat testbed of the Grand Cherokee started last summer when the Hellcat came out. They could've entered it into the Pike's Peak hillclimb for publicity and to gauge interest (and it could trigger something like the Nurburgring for US cars to compete with times on).

I'd kinda like to see Dodge do a concept street legal Trophy truck version of the RAM. Put the Hellcat behind the cab (roll cage and tub the bed, make it mid-engine in the process, convert the hood into a trunk). They could sell it like the drag version of the Challenger. It'd give them some bragging over the Raptor without them having to actually compete with it.

 

[angminas]

I've seen stupid people doing stupid things with 90 HP or less.
Dipcrap cousin of my friend thought his Samurai could run over a center island doing 45-50 with his cousin and two of her friends in the car.

Not sure what your point is. If it's that people are stupid, I think I covered that. If it's that I'm wrong to be concerned about idiots having 700hp, yeah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you.

 

[Squisher]

They should show it pulling a small cruise ship up into dry dock.