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Fullmetal Chocobo

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Originally posted by: Aimster
grr I got 77 again

I had all leafs with just 1 fire that I built first and upgraded three times.

You have a pic? Just wondering. All the high level ones seem to be grouped, but I have done the best so far with putting them at certain locations around the path... Weird.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: Aimster
grr I got 77 again

I had all leafs with just 1 fire that I built first and upgraded three times.

You have a pic? Just wondering. All the high level ones seem to be grouped, but I have done the best so far with putting them at certain locations around the path... Weird.

no but Im going to go play again and I'll have a new picture for you in 5minutes.

Hopefully Ill get 85 this time.
 

simms

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: Aimster
grr I got 77 again

I had all leafs with just 1 fire that I built first and upgraded three times.

You have a pic? Just wondering. All the high level ones seem to be grouped, but I have done the best so far with putting them at certain locations around the path... Weird.

no but Im going to go play again and I'll have a new picture for you in 5minutes.

Hopefully Ill get 85 this time.

Regardless of your attitude with M4H, it seems pretty well established that 78 seems to be the maximum... when you start losing citizens around level 76 you know you're done for in the next few levels... so I don't think you'll last another 7 to get to the 85.
 

Calin

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: McCarthy
Interesting - I took a completely different approach. Instead of concentrating firepower, I went for corners to get the most contact points as the enemy went through the path.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4259/castleei0.gif

Firethrowers are handy at first, but I went with the plant soon after like others.

thats exactly how I scored 80

this time I got a 77 :-

I think I figured out how to get 85. Im going to go for it right now.

I have the worst luck with the plant ones. Got to lvl maybe 15 max. With water, I got up to about 58 so far...

I've built a water tower first, and upgraded it to 80 (or 160). Next, I've built two plant towers all the way up, and last me to about lvl 54 (with 8000 gold reserve). Then I've built another plant tower, and again I had some 8000 gold reserve until I've had to build more towers

Plant towers suck (compared to the rest) all the way until the last upgrade. The last upgrade rocks compared to everything else
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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Originally posted by: Calin
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: McCarthy
Interesting - I took a completely different approach. Instead of concentrating firepower, I went for corners to get the most contact points as the enemy went through the path.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4259/castleei0.gif

Firethrowers are handy at first, but I went with the plant soon after like others.

thats exactly how I scored 80

this time I got a 77 :-

I think I figured out how to get 85. Im going to go for it right now.

I have the worst luck with the plant ones. Got to lvl maybe 15 max. With water, I got up to about 58 so far...

I've built a water tower first, and upgraded it to 80 (or 160). Next, I've built two plant towers all the way up, and last me to about lvl 54 (with 8000 gold reserve). Then I've built another plant tower, and again I had some 8000 gold reserve until I've had to build more towers

Plant towers suck (compared to the rest) all the way until the last upgrade. The last upgrade rocks compared to everything else

Really? I'll have to check them out...
 

Calin

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Level 76 - with tree towers that covers the dots from their entry (and one ice tower).

One should place the towers as to cover as much as possible from the dots' trajectory
 

Calin

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo

Really? I'll have to check them out...

Fire towers really really lack range
A water tower well installed will cover all the map. I assume all the water towers you could build up to lvl 70 or so will cover the entire map

However, plant towers have quite a bit better damage, and can cover most of the map too
 

AdvancedRobotics

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got lvl 76 again using ice/tree

Originally posted by: Calin
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo

Really? I'll have to check them out...

Fire towers really really lack range
A water tower well installed will cover all the map. I assume all the water towers you could build up to lvl 70 or so will cover the entire map

However, plant towers have quite a bit better damage, and can cover most of the map too

unfortunately, the plant/leaf ones don't cover some key parts of the map. see here

the circled towers (and the highlighted tower, too) don't hit that last bend, which is, i think, where i'm losing the battle, everything is going well until then and only my ice towers are doing damage.

all ice towers only got me to the low 70s. ice/leaf seem to get me to mid/high 70s, but i want to try and find a better setup that i can hit everything, especially in that home stretch i pointed out in my img.
 

Calin

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Originally posted by: Calin
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo

Really? I'll have to check them out...

Fire towers really really lack range
A water tower well installed will cover all the map. I assume all the water towers you could build up to lvl 70 or so will cover the entire map

However, plant towers have quite a bit better damage, and can cover most of the map too

I've tried with water towers - one had a not so good position, and I've only reached level 71. There are plenty of positions that cover the entire map
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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73, doing two groups of four leafs at different places, and two groups of six ice @ beginning & end. (1 at begin, 1 at end)....

Damn this is a great game.
 

Calin

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Originally posted by: Calin

I've tried with water towers - one had a not so good position, and I've only reached level 71. There are plenty of positions that cover the entire map

Went to level 73 with water towers - eight of them, covering the entire map. Seems like plant towers are better overall
 

Calin

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Originally posted by: AdvancedRobotics
got lvl 76 again using ice/tree

all ice towers only got me to the low 70s. ice/leaf seem to get me to mid/high 70s, but i want to try and find a better setup that i can hit everything, especially in that home stretch i pointed out in my img.

You can leave leaf towers non adjacent with the first up-going stretch of way - they will still hit the dots entering the map. But they still don't have the range to hit the stretch you pointed (but they only lack some range).
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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Originally posted by: Calin
Originally posted by: AdvancedRobotics
got lvl 76 again using ice/tree

all ice towers only got me to the low 70s. ice/leaf seem to get me to mid/high 70s, but i want to try and find a better setup that i can hit everything, especially in that home stretch i pointed out in my img.

You can leave leaf towers non adjacent with the first up-going stretch of way - they will still hit the dots entering the map. But they still don't have the range to hit the stretch you pointed (but they only lack some range).

But evne then, their rate of fire is decreased due to the distance. I like keeping then in between the roads. I just hit 73 with 6 leaf towers (full), two ice towers (full), and some (around 8) lightning things... Unfortunatley I wasn't able to keep track of how it was doing... I'm still at work, and I mostly build and wait...
 

Turin39789

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What about the mechanical ammo towers($3000)?


I've used em, only once got one upgraded with the $5000 upgrade to do 15k damage. Next is a $15K upgrade to do 90k damage, they lose range with each upgrade and don't seem to fire fast. Anyone effectivly saved for these and used them?
 

uhohs

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wish was there was a pause or save/load feature. lol.

the lightning tower should have some slowing effect.
 

franksta

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
What about the mechanical ammo towers($3000)?


I've used em, only once got one upgraded with the $5000 upgrade to do 15k damage. Next is a $15K upgrade to do 90k damage, they lose range with each upgrade and don't seem to fire fast. Anyone effectivly saved for these and used them?

I've had as many as 3 non-upgraded on the field. The first upgrade isn't worth it as it's only an increase of about 6000 damage but the price is nearly twice that of another tower by itself. The next upgrade seems like it would be worth it but I have trouble just saving the 3000 required for the tower.

The highest I've been able to get so far is 73.
 
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70 is right around what we call the "Pwnage Threshold"

At level 71, the enemies are ~6077163 (1.25^70, because the first wave is the base) times stronger than the first wave. Even if they only have 5HP to start with, that gives them a rather disgusting 30M+ HP each. Eight per wave, and they're asking you to hand out nearly 250 million damage in 20 seconds.

At that time, even if you had ten Living Towers able to do constant damage, that's 90000 per shot. Each and every one of those towers has to dish out 2778 hits in order to vanquish all eight enemies.

I think it's a requirement to line the pathways as tightly as possible, otherwise there's no way in hell you can pump that many shots into them.

- M4H
 

AdvancedRobotics

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
What about the mechanical ammo towers($3000)?


I've used em, only once got one upgraded with the $5000 upgrade to do 15k damage. Next is a $15K upgrade to do 90k damage, they lose range with each upgrade and don't seem to fire fast. Anyone effectivly saved for these and used them?

i dont think it's possible to save that much and live.

i only had two ice towers and one flower at the second upgrade. i quit because i realized there was no way i could save 15,000 without dying first. got around lvl 60 with basically two towers, i suspect i would have hit around 65 with just those two towers and i doubt i would have had 15,000 to fully upgrade by then
 
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